OWH: Bo Pelini insults A.D. Shawn Eichorst in expletive-filled rant during final meeting with players

[Dagerow]

here's your effing happy meal

Nice.

 

[Mierin]

And the fact that they didn't consult with Osborne before firing Bo should give you an indication of the amount of respect they have for his opinion.

'Cause it makes a lot of sense for them to ask a guy who doesn't work there anymore whether they should fire a coach.

 

[Hunter94]

"We are confident that Coach will conduct himself accordingly moving forward"

Sounds familiar.

Bo is a true homer now! lol

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

My understanding it is a private conversation to his former players at an off campus meeting... My understanding non team required... So private meeting at a private site...

The guy got fired letting off steam. I think most people see it for what it is.

So let's call it for what it is. In his farewell speech, Bo attempted to turn his entire team against the administration and athletic department.
He led a chorus of sniggers as he called his boss, the NU athletic director, every name in the book. (Real cowardice, by the way)

He told players that this place is a (redacted), in part because of "a lot of the former players", among just about everything else.

After all the talk about what a miserable place it was, he suggested Nebraska players take a long hard look at if they'll be happy here and to transfer if they won't.

All of this is beyond horrifying. And plainly it was not the first time he's talked about this, or like this, to his team. That's the man the University of Nebraska employed for seven years to lead a group of over a hundred of its student-athletes, and to represent UNL in the homes of countless high school students around the country.

There's a lot of good things about Bo, too, but there's no getting around that this is who he is, and this is how he's treated this place and the charge he was given. I wish it weren't the case, but it is, and Bo alone is responsible for who he is.

So I'm just wondering, why is Bo telling his players to do what is best for them a bad thing? I still can't figure that one out.

Bo had his players first, not the university.

Actually, that's the controversy right there.

Seven years into the Bo Pelini era and Nebraska was not even contending for its division, one of the weakest in college football.

Brought in as a defensive specialist, Nebraska under Pelini racked up 7 of the 10 worst defensive performances in Husker history.

Fans and media had a problem with this.

At which point THEY became the problem. At least that's how it was presented to Husker players.

Yes, he had the players backs. Nobody else believed in them the way Bo Pelini did. If you want to know what we did wrong in our latest big game meltdown, don't look in the mirror, and for godsakes don't blame the coaches who love you so much. Blame unreasonable fan expectation and the AD who actively wants you to lose. And the World-Herald.

By his own admission, Bo had bunkered in at a place he openly hated and couldn't wait to leave. His best revenge would have been success, but he couldn't pull it off. All he could do was poison the well.

The irony, Dagerow, is that in this final rant Bo Pelini put Bo Pelini first. And that wasn't in the best interest of either the players or the fans, who loved this team long before Bo Pelini got here and will love them long after he's gone.

Oh that's right. He's gone.

Nevermind.

 

[HuskerNation1]

"We are confident that Coach will conduct himself accordingly moving forward"

Sounds familiar.

Bo is a true homer now! lol

The reality is that Bo is not mentally stable, and is incapable of altering his behavior without medication. Something in his upbringing is contributing to this as Carl has the same issues, and I don't foresee him being able to contain his anger on his own at YSU.

 

[huskerfan92]

It leaves me scratching my head why people are coming out saying they don't trust Shawn Eichorst. Really, what has he done to not have your trust? Repeatedly, we have witnessed Bo not controlling his temper. We have heard one audio tape already of him having absolutely no respect for the fans and administration to the point of him being an immature idiot.

So.....Shawn fires him and all of a sudden we shouldn't trust him?

That makes no sense to me.

I'm scratching my head why people think SE is trustworthy. A good potion of what he has said is lies (see my prior posts and others if you want more detailed break down of why we don't trust him). Firing a coach that has never won less then 9 games in every year he coached and replacing him with one who went 5-7 doesnt make sense to me.

Oh wow this argument still exists?

 

[Beemer13]

I am friends with one of the coaches for one of the women athletics program and I asked her at the beginning of this year how SE was as the AD and how he was different than TO. She explained that TO would often come to practices and games, talked with the coaches frequently and developed relationships with the players. She said SE is more hands off, that he has doesnt come to practice or engage players or coaches often or at all. Now, she made it a point to say that although he is not highly visible he has been a huge supporter of women's athletics at NU and has provided extra resources to allow them to grow their fan base as well as providing be benefits to the student athletes that focus on women. She really appreciates that. She also said she doesn't mind that he stays at arms length because it allows the coaches to focus on the games and their players without the distraction of him watching over their shoulder. He comes to games and supports the program, he just doesn't meddle in the day to day. The coaches know what is expected of them because that is part of the University culture. You run a clean program, you graduate your athletes, you play competitively, and you represent the University and state with class. If you need something you ask and it usually gets approval. I'm sharing this because I think SE is actually doing a good job and represents us well. He may have a different style than TO or SP had but it is effective and frankly I think he felt TO left him in pretty good shape when he arrived. The one sore spot was the football team which he is working to repair, otherwise, if you look at all other major athletics programs NU is a national contender and looks really good.

Thanks to TO for rebuilding our athletic department and to SE for maintaining it! GBR!!

 

[knapplc]

I trust Bo more than I trust Eichorst. And I think that at the end of the 2015 football season, most fans will agree.

Agree

If we win 5 games next season, it still wasn't wrong to fire Bo. Mike Riley may not be the right guy for the job, that doesn't mean Bo Pelini was. And his latest tirade definitely proved he wasn't.

i will get you sometime.

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[sd'sker]

I trust Bo more than I trust Eichorst. And I think that at the end of the 2015 football season, most fans will agree.

Agree

If we win 5 games next season, it still wasn't wrong to fire Bo. Mike Riley may not be the right guy for the job, that doesn't mean Bo Pelini was. And his latest tirade definitely proved he wasn't.

i will get you sometime.

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you're next.

edit: for a +1.

 

[zoogs]

Bo had his players first, not the university.

Bo took those two things and pitted them against each other.

 

[Redman]

I am still wondering what factual or well-documented reasons people have for the SE or HP criticisms. There are no known facts that Osborne was forced out (are there?), other than Osborne himself saying that he wasn't. Bo was let go, after seven seasons, for reasons SE gave in the presser. I get that some feel that there are other reasonings involved. What is the source of these? Can someone bring forth anything other than speculative opinions that are not conjured up or based upon how they personally feel about the individuals involved? [SIZE=13.63636302948px]I guess I do not understand the hatred (other than the coach they liked was fired). Help me out.[/SIZE]

Can we dispell the "who has not gone off on a rant when they are angry" arguments. Yes, most of us probably have gone off on a rant at one time or another. Yes, most of us have used expletives before, but that still does not make it mature or appropriate behavior. To further drag these young men into his problems and attempt to further drive a wedge in between them and the university, the administration, and the fans is simply not the appropriate for a man of Bo's integrity. He should be better than that. If you are a Bo supporter (which is absolutely fine), hopefully you can at least admit that his choice of words and methods, in this case, where said out of emotion and probably could have been done with a little more tact.

 

[Dagerow]

Osborne debunked Bo Pelini's lie that he was "forced out" of the Athletic Director position:

LINK

Q: Why do you think he had the impression you were?

Osborne: I dont know. I havent heard the tape. I dont know that its legitimate. Im not going to comment on something I know nothing about. I resigned as athletic director as of Jan. 1, 2013, and I stuck around for six months to help with the transition. Thats what I did. Thats pretty well-documented.

Q: Did your departure go the way you wanted it to?

Osborne: Im fine with everything. Im not going to be drawn into that. Thats ridiculous. I did what I did, I resigned on my own, I stayed around and tried to help with the transition.

I guess I read that different than you.

 

[Hujan]

I am friends with one of the coaches for one of the women athletics program and I asked her at the beginning of this year how SE was as the AD and how he was different than TO. She explained that TO would often come to practices and games, talked with the coaches frequently and developed relationships with the players. She said SE is more hands off, that he has doesnt come to practice or engage players or coaches often or at all. Now, she made it a point to say that although he is not highly visible he has been a huge supporter of women's athletics at NU and has provided extra resources to allow them to grow their fan base as well as providing be benefits to the student athletes that focus on women. She really appreciates that. She also said she doesn't mind that he stays at arms length because it allows the coaches to focus on the games and their players without the distraction of him watching over their shoulder. He comes to games and supports the program, he just doesn't meddle in the day to day. The coaches know what is expected of them because that is part of the University culture. You run a clean program, you graduate your athletes, you play competitively, and you represent the University and state with class. If you need something you ask and it usually gets approval. I'm sharing this because I think SE is actually doing a good job and represents us well. He may have a different style than TO or SP had but it is effective and frankly I think he felt TO left him in pretty good shape when he arrived. The one sore spot was the football team which he is working to repair, otherwise, if you look at all other major athletics programs NU is a national contender and looks really good.

Thanks to TO for rebuilding our athletic department and to SE for maintaining it! GBR!!

This. A thousand times, this. To me, when I read Bo's comments, it sounded to me like Eichorst is just not a "meddler" type and prefers to do things quietly so he doesn't get in the way. If I were a coach I think I would prefer this managerial style over, say, a Barry Alverez, who is basically looking over his coaches shoulders and has to restrain himself from coming down from the box to start calling plays. I would want the space to run the day to day as I see fit without having my boss constantly watching over me.

I think TO was just very atypical in a lot of ways. Besides his long history with the school, a man like TO can get away with showing up to practices and sticking his nose into everything. He won 5 national titles at Nebraska, for crying out loud. He has a right to meddle. I would think a person like Bo would be irritated with a lawyer constantly showing up to sh#t, acting like he's a player/coach, especially when he's the new kid on the block.

 

[Dagerow]

Wanting a change at the top for widespread athletic dept dysfunction when only one coach was dysfunctional is absolutely hilarious.

So, you've been sleeping for a decade. I see.

Or you're blind to the present

So, there were no problems in the athletic department whatsoever until Bo was hired?

Harvey Perlman isn't in charge of the athletic dept. That's why there's been four athletic directors since 2002. I'd say at this point it's as unified and solid as it's ever been right now. Especially since the pariah has been sent to lower Ohio.

Let me get this right. In response to his statement that the athletic department has been in a disarray the last ten years is to point out that there's been 4 different ads during that the time.

 

[Dagerow]

My understanding it is a private conversation to his former players at an off campus meeting... My understanding non team required... So private meeting at a private site...

The guy got fired letting off steam. I think most people see it for what it is.

So let's call it for what it is. In his farewell speech, Bo attempted to turn his entire team against the administration and athletic department.
He led a chorus of sniggers as he called his boss, the NU athletic director, every name in the book. (Real cowardice, by the way)

He told players that this place is a (redacted), in part because of "a lot of the former players", among just about everything else.

After all the talk about what a miserable place it was, he suggested Nebraska players take a long hard look at if they'll be happy here and to transfer if they won't.

All of this is beyond horrifying. And plainly it was not the first time he's talked about this, or like this, to his team. That's the man the University of Nebraska employed for seven years to lead a group of over a hundred of its student-athletes, and to represent UNL in the homes of countless high school students around the country.

There's a lot of good things about Bo, too, but there's no getting around that this is who he is, and this is how he's treated this place and the charge he was given. I wish it weren't the case, but it is, and Bo alone is responsible for who he is.

To me it seemed like someone offering advice to someone he cared about, instead of staying loyal to a company that no longer employed him. It's the same advice (I hope) you would give a friend or family member. If you're doing something that (most) people will only be able to do for 4-5 years I hope you do it in a way that makes YOU happy and leaves you with no regrets. If staying here and doing it makes you the most happy, do it here. If you need to go somewhere else to find that happiness, then go there my friend. And if you do stay here, hey, give the next guy a fair shake because it's gonna be tough on them, too.
That's just good advice. It's not inciting anger and hoping to inspire people to ditch NU. I think a lot of people are reading in between the lines to see and hear what they want to see and hear. Sometimes an apple is just an apple. Sometimes when someone says, "I love you guys like my own kids" he means it. He's not trying to manipulate them.

Exactly