Riley Shelf Life

[jmfb]

I live in Northeast Kansas, right along the Kansas/Missouri border. Besides Oregon, I haven't really noticed another team taking foothold here besides the locals. If anything, I think our interest here has grown. Another thing that I believe can contribute to kids wearing other teams apparel is the "gear sales". Some of my friends used to go to them when was in high school a few yeas ago. Basically you pick up a teams cool, catchy gear for cheap. Most kids nowadays don't really care who the university is as long as they look athletic and cool wearing it.

My experience is different then

Ive also attended some Nike Combines and FBU camps in other parts of the country

I found the same there- lots of team gear from other areas of the country.

It varies a bit by region

Damon Benning was on the radio today- he said he saw the very same thing I did

His sons three favorite teams are NU Oregon and TCU- has gear for all

One of my own kids likes Lacrosse and wears the Duke gear- a great Lacrosse power.

 

[jmfb]

Hey, no problem at all. The hatred for that school down in Tucson burns deeply within me.

ASU definitely has a lot going for it right now. It is a beautiful campus and has a lot to offer that an incoming freshman could be swayed by. And the team is certainly doing well; Todd Graham is absolutely loved by his players and I can imagine he puts together a good story for recruits. The biggest adjustment will be attending a school with 70,000 plus students; that can be pretty daunting for an 18 year old kid. I know it was for me. Still a bummer to lose a local Nebraska kid, but I wish him well.

Certain advantages I get it- I like Rich Rod though

Gal I dated after I returned home from college went to ASU- runner up Miss Nebraska. From a couple of her school pics- I get it a bit

She said she wasn't anything special on the ASU campus, I wouldn't know when we toured it, school wasn't in session

I graduated from a 50,000 student Uni- yes there is a lot to be impressed with- certain kids

More power to him- wish him well

Loved the hiking, weather and Scottsdale- great spot

A real head turner for many- no doubt

 

[jmfb]

Hey, no problem at all. The hatred for that school down in Tucson burns deeply within me.

ASU definitely has a lot going for it right now. It is a beautiful campus and has a lot to offer that an incoming freshman could be swayed by. And the team is certainly doing well; Todd Graham is absolutely loved by his players and I can imagine he puts together a good story for recruits. The biggest adjustment will be attending a school with 70,000 plus students; that can be pretty daunting for an 18 year old kid. I know it was for me. Still a bummer to lose a local Nebraska kid, but I wish him well.

Any insight on why Dennis Erickson failed at ASU after such a strong start?

 

[Savage Husker]

Hey, no problem at all. The hatred for that school down in Tucson burns deeply within me.

ASU definitely has a lot going for it right now. It is a beautiful campus and has a lot to offer that an incoming freshman could be swayed by. And the team is certainly doing well; Todd Graham is absolutely loved by his players and I can imagine he puts together a good story for recruits. The biggest adjustment will be attending a school with 70,000 plus students; that can be pretty daunting for an 18 year old kid. I know it was for me. Still a bummer to lose a local Nebraska kid, but I wish him well.

Any insight on why Dennis Erickson failed at ASU after such a strong start?

Because be was a crappy coach that rode the coat tails of predecessors?

 

[alwayshusking]

Erickson is a solid coach imo, but he's more of a quick turnaround/success artist rather than a program builder. Did well at places that had the infrastructure built for him.

 

[True2tRA]

Hey, no problem at all. The hatred for that school down in Tucson burns deeply within me.

ASU definitely has a lot going for it right now. It is a beautiful campus and has a lot to offer that an incoming freshman could be swayed by. And the team is certainly doing well; Todd Graham is absolutely loved by his players and I can imagine he puts together a good story for recruits. The biggest adjustment will be attending a school with 70,000 plus students; that can be pretty daunting for an 18 year old kid. I know it was for me. Still a bummer to lose a local Nebraska kid, but I wish him well.

Any insight on why Dennis Erickson failed at ASU after such a strong start?

Dennis Erickson never failed. Must be someone else's fault. I mean....just look at his record at Oregon St. The guy is a legend.
Besides, why would you be interest in any insight into why Erickson had some rough seasons. You've been given a few hundred posts worth of insight as to why Mike Riley had some rough years at Oregon St. That doesn't seem to interest you.

 

[Savage Husker]

Erickson is a solid coach imo, but he's more of a quick turnaround/success artist rather than a program builder. Did well at places that had the infrastructure already built for him.

I've met him before when my high school camped at Oregon St, he was an alright guy, I remember him talking about coaching The Rock - liked the nose candy a little too much in college. Anyway, his stops have been short and he owes a lot to those who built a program before him, nothing against the guy, but don't think he could build or sustain a program.

 

[jmfb]

Hey, no problem at all. The hatred for that school down in Tucson burns deeply within me.

ASU definitely has a lot going for it right now. It is a beautiful campus and has a lot to offer that an incoming freshman could be swayed by. And the team is certainly doing well; Todd Graham is absolutely loved by his players and I can imagine he puts together a good story for recruits. The biggest adjustment will be attending a school with 70,000 plus students; that can be pretty daunting for an 18 year old kid. I know it was for me. Still a bummer to lose a local Nebraska kid, but I wish him well.

Any insight on why Dennis Erickson failed at ASU after such a strong start?

Dennis Erickson never failed. Must be someone else's fault. I mean....just look at his record at Oregon St. The guy is a legend.

I would have to agree with you about OSU

For coaches coaching 4 years or more he holds the record for highest winning % and of course highest ranking in OSU history- the team that went 11-1 and finished 4th in nation

And right in the middle of the Mike Riley tenure at a place a lot of people think is impossible to win at consistently, which they were wrong about

Great run

Did better at OSU than at Arizona State

Had some rough patches after OSU-

Some guys fade over time- it happens. pretty common

 

[True2tRA]

Hey, no problem at all. The hatred for that school down in Tucson burns deeply within me.

ASU definitely has a lot going for it right now. It is a beautiful campus and has a lot to offer that an incoming freshman could be swayed by. And the team is certainly doing well; Todd Graham is absolutely loved by his players and I can imagine he puts together a good story for recruits. The biggest adjustment will be attending a school with 70,000 plus students; that can be pretty daunting for an 18 year old kid. I know it was for me. Still a bummer to lose a local Nebraska kid, but I wish him well.

Any insight on why Dennis Erickson failed at ASU after such a strong start?

Dennis Erickson never failed. Must be someone else's fault. I mean....just look at his record at Oregon St. The guy is a legend.

I would have to agree with you about OSUFor coaches coaching 4 years or more he holds the record for highest winning % and of course highest ranking in OSU history- the team that went 11-1 and finished 4th in nation

And right in the middle of the Mike Riley tenure at a place a lot of people think is impossible to win at consistently, which they were wrong about

Great run

Did better at OSU than at Arizona State

Had some rough patches after OSU- not a HOF coach

Some guys fade over time- it happens. pretty common

Not impossible

Mike Riley won there

pretty consistently.

 

[teachercd]

Sometimes guys only stay at a job for sure about a time because they can go get a bigger contract and start all over with guaranteed money somewhere new. Not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[jmfb]

Erickson is a solid coach imo, but he's more of a quick turnaround/success artist rather than a program builder. Did well at places that had the infrastructure built for him.

Very nice run at Idaho 4 year turnaround, consistent success

Quick 2 year turnaround at Washington State

Played for 4 National Championships at Miami- won 2

Set records at Oregon State 31-17

One year jump back to Idaho got them from 2 to 4 wins

Then after a quick start at ASU- 10-3 kind of fizzled out

Looked like ASU would have worked out well for him

NFL- mixed success, not that it matters

Don't know anything about the guy

 

[jmfb]

Hey, no problem at all. The hatred for that school down in Tucson burns deeply within me.

ASU definitely has a lot going for it right now. It is a beautiful campus and has a lot to offer that an incoming freshman could be swayed by. And the team is certainly doing well; Todd Graham is absolutely loved by his players and I can imagine he puts together a good story for recruits. The biggest adjustment will be attending a school with 70,000 plus students; that can be pretty daunting for an 18 year old kid. I know it was for me. Still a bummer to lose a local Nebraska kid, but I wish him well.

Any insight on why Dennis Erickson failed at ASU after such a strong start?

Dennis Erickson never failed. Must be someone else's fault. I mean....just look at his record at Oregon St. The guy is a legend.

I would have to agree with you about OSUFor coaches coaching 4 years or more he holds the record for highest winning % and of course highest ranking in OSU history- the team that went 11-1 and finished 4th in nation

And right in the middle of the Mike Riley tenure at a place a lot of people think is impossible to win at consistently, which they were wrong about

Great run

Did better at OSU than at Arizona State

Had some rough patches after OSU- not a HOF coach

Some guys fade over time- it happens. pretty common

Not impossible

Mike Riley won there

pretty consistently.

Well Mike RIley having 6 losing seasons out of 14 and having a losing record in conference wouldn't be winning consistently by most peoples definitions

Not mine either

 

[jmfb]

Sometimes guys only stay at a job for sure about a time because they can go get a bigger contract and start all over with guaranteed money somewhere new. Not necessarily a bad thing.

Not at all, it's a business

 

[True2tRA]

Hey, no problem at all. The hatred for that school down in Tucson burns deeply within me.

ASU definitely has a lot going for it right now. It is a beautiful campus and has a lot to offer that an incoming freshman could be swayed by. And the team is certainly doing well; Todd Graham is absolutely loved by his players and I can imagine he puts together a good story for recruits. The biggest adjustment will be attending a school with 70,000 plus students; that can be pretty daunting for an 18 year old kid. I know it was for me. Still a bummer to lose a local Nebraska kid, but I wish him well.

Any insight on why Dennis Erickson failed at ASU after such a strong start?

Dennis Erickson never failed. Must be someone else's fault. I mean....just look at his record at Oregon St. The guy is a legend.

I would have to agree with you about OSUFor coaches coaching 4 years or more he holds the record for highest winning % and of course highest ranking in OSU history- the team that went 11-1 and finished 4th in nationAnd right in the middle of the Mike Riley tenure at a place a lot of people think is impossible to win at consistently, which they were wrong about

Great run

Did better at OSU than at Arizona State

Had some rough patches after OSU- not a HOF coach

Some guys fade over time- it happens. pretty common

Not impossible

Mike Riley won there

pretty consistently.

Well Mike RIley having 6 losing seasons out of 14 and having a losing record in conference wouldn't be winning consistently by most peoples definitionsNot mine either

instead of continuing to derail the Bubak thread.........

Oregon State Beavers (Pacific-10/Pacific-12 Conference) (2003–2014)

2003 Oregon State 8–5 4–4

2004 Oregon State 7–5 5–3

2006 Oregon State 10–4 6–3

2007 Oregon State 9–4 6–3

2008 Oregon State 9–4 7–2

2009 Oregon State 8–5 6–3

2012 Oregon State 9–4 6–3

2013 Oregon State 7–6 4–5

Hmmm.......maybe you better redefine your definition of winning consistently.

 

[alwayshusking]

When you consider Oregon State won 52 games total in the 25 years leading up to the Riley hire, he definitely won consistently there.

BTW that has to be up there for worst run in p5 school history. Averaging 2 wins a year for a quarter century is incredible futility.