OWH: Outgoing UNL Chancellor Harvey Perlman leaves with unmet goal: Huskers’ return to top

[Saunders]

Martinez was a good QB. Armstrong is a good QB. Bush has talent, but we'll never really know how good he could have been.

I ignored the rest of your ignorant rant.

Martinez was garb, and Armstrong turns the ball over like Bo truns over Burgers at mcdonalds... not that there is anything wrong with that....

This will be the only warning you get on this. Don't call our players garbage.

I agree with you Saunders but in the same breath, you are allowing posters to make up names for administration officials. What's bad for one should be bad for the others.

As of now, my understanding is that we only really have a standing rule against trashing players like that. I agree that the stupid names need to go, but it's gonna get some people mad who do the same for current and past coaches too. Either way, it's all childish, and IMO, needs to stop. I'll bring it up with the mod team.

 

[StPaulHusker]

$5m in extensions didn't hurt the program at all?

That was just one example, though, of his failed leadership.

TO didn't assist in finding the previous AD. That's ridiculous piece of misinformation. Did the last employer you had that provided a recommendation upon request assist in your job search?

Osborne didn't advocate firing Solich, didn't approve the hiring of Callahan, didn't advocate firing Bo or interview and approve the hiring of Riley.

No. The extensions didn't hurt the program. We didn't lack for funding of anything athletics related. In fact there was even money to expand the stadium and build a new basketball arena.

TO gave his blessing on Pederson. Don't kid yourself.

Of course he didn't advocate firing Solich. He was his failed hand picked successor. And he didn't approve if hiring Callahan because his friend was just fired. And he didn't advocate firing Bo because, again, that was his failed hand picked coach.

 

[StPaulHusker]

It's f'ing laughable how some of you think he is to blame for Husker football.

You don't see a direct link there.. and how that hire/fire can affect football? Don't forget whoever the AD hires/fires is also a direct link to the Chancellor.

Really, you can't see the chain of command and how that link can affect things from top down?

Here is the link:

Perlman is in charge of the university.

He has people in charge of certain areas that lay out a plan and give him advice as to what to do.

He either signs off on it based on their presentation, or doesn't.

In the end, it's the AD that lives or dies with the decision. It appears to me that Perlman's fault was trusting an AD that hired someone that didn't belong in college football, a psychopath, and perhaps a re-tread that will fail.

 

[kchusker_chris]

if nothing else I can go to a bar in a Husker shirt and not have to talk about our crazy a$$ coach with some random person who wants to laugh at Nebraska football...that was getting old.

People on bbs's whine about this, but while traveling the country, I never heard that. What I mostly heard is "I went to a game there once; it was awesome" or "do you all have anything other than football out there?"

Bo didn't even rank among the craziest in CFB let alone when stacked against all coaches across all sports.

I live in Kansas, where the Huskers are still relevant and a topic of conversation in relation to the Big8. I don't hear it much anymore - with the exception of this weekend at the lake - but it was extremely prevalent during his last 3-4 years....then again I hang out at a few sports bars 5-6 nights a week, so know most of the people there. Watching how your conversations play out here, it doesn't surprise me no one talks to you at a bar.

 

[huskerfan2000]

It's f'ing laughable how some of you think he is to blame for Husker football.

You don't see a direct link there.. and how that hire/fire can affect football? Don't forget whoever the AD hires/fires is also a direct link to the Chancellor.

Really, you can't see the chain of command and how that link can affect things from top down?

Here is the link:

Perlman is in charge of the university.

He has people in charge of certain areas that lay out a plan and give him advice as to what to do.

He either signs off on it based on their presentation, or doesn't.

In the end, it's the AD that lives or dies with the decision. It appears to me that Perlman's fault was trusting an AD that hired someone that didn't belong in college football, a psychopath, and perhaps a re-tread that will fail.

So, instead of saying "yes I understand the link" you try to make an excuse? Just admit it, the Chancellor is responsible for all of his subordinates, and their actions are a direct reflections on him.

 

[StPaulHusker]

It's f'ing laughable how some of you think he is to blame for Husker football.

You don't see a direct link there.. and how that hire/fire can affect football? Don't forget whoever the AD hires/fires is also a direct link to the Chancellor.

Really, you can't see the chain of command and how that link can affect things from top down?

Here is the link:

Perlman is in charge of the university.

He has people in charge of certain areas that lay out a plan and give him advice as to what to do.

He either signs off on it based on their presentation, or doesn't.

In the end, it's the AD that lives or dies with the decision. It appears to me that Perlman's fault was trusting an AD that hired someone that didn't belong in college football, a psychopath, and perhaps a re-tread that will fail.

So, instead of saying "yes I understand the link" you try to make an excuse? Just admit it, the Chancellor is responsible for all of his subordinates, and their actions are a direct reflections on him.

That doesn't mean he is directly responsible for the play on the field or the lack of recruiting efforts by the coach.

 

[cm husker]

$5m in extensions didn't hurt the program at all?

That was just one example, though, of his failed leadership.

TO didn't assist in finding the previous AD. That's ridiculous piece of misinformation. Did the last employer you had that provided a recommendation upon request assist in your job search?

Osborne didn't advocate firing Solich, didn't approve the hiring of Callahan, didn't advocate firing Bo or interview and approve the hiring of Riley.

No. The extensions didn't hurt the program. We didn't lack for funding of anything athletics related. In fact there was even money to expand the stadium and build a new basketball arena.
TO gave his blessing on Pederson. Don't kid yourself.

Of course he didn't advocate firing Solich. He was his failed hand picked successor. And he didn't approve if hiring Callahan because his friend was just fired. And he didn't advocate firing Bo because, again, that was his failed hand picked coach.

So, you acknowledge that Perlman played a much more direct role in the mess than TO. That's progress.

 

[cm husker]

It's f'ing laughable how some of you think he is to blame for Husker football.

You don't see a direct link there.. and how that hire/fire can affect football? Don't forget whoever the AD hires/fires is also a direct link to the Chancellor.

Really, you can't see the chain of command and how that link can affect things from top down?

Here is the link:
Perlman is in charge of the university.

He has people in charge of certain areas that lay out a plan and give him advice as to what to do.

He either signs off on it based on their presentation, or doesn't.

In the end, it's the AD that lives or dies with the decision. It appears to me that Perlman's fault was trusting an AD that hired someone that didn't belong in college football, a psychopath, and perhaps a re-tread that will fail.

So, instead of saying "yes I understand the link" you try to make an excuse? Just admit it, the Chancellor is responsible for all of his subordinates, and their actions are a direct reflections on him.

That doesn't mean he is directly responsible for the play on the field or the lack of recruiting efforts by the coach.

I'm getting pretty tired of the supposed "lack of recruiting efforts" by certain coaches, because it's nothing more than unfounded character assassination. Callahan inherited more highly drafted players than Bo did. Riley had probably 12+ guys among his starters last year who will get NFL opportunities either through the draft or through FA contracts.

Our coaches worked hard and brought in great recruits. although it appears things are off to a solid start, it remains to be seen if Riley will outpace his predecessors, even given the unprecedented amount of resources and upgrades he's enjoyed based on timing.

 

[cm husker]

if nothing else I can go to a bar in a Husker shirt and not have to talk about our crazy a$$ coach with some random person who wants to laugh at Nebraska football...that was getting old.

People on bbs's whine about this, but while traveling the country, I never heard that. What I mostly heard is "I went to a game there once; it was awesome" or "do you all have anything other than football out there?"
Bo didn't even rank among the craziest in CFB let alone when stacked against all coaches across all sports.

I live in Kansas, where the Huskers are still relevant and a topic of conversation in relation to the Big8. I don't hear it much anymore - with the exception of this weekend at the lake - but it was extremely prevalent during his last 3-4 years....then again I hang out at a few sports bars 5-6 nights a week, so know most of the people there. Watching how your conversations play out here, it doesn't surprise me no one talks to you at a bar.

Hanging out in sports bars 5-6 nights a week? Unless one is a bartender, that's pretty sad.

 

[StPaulHusker]

$5m in extensions didn't hurt the program at all?

That was just one example, though, of his failed leadership.

TO didn't assist in finding the previous AD. That's ridiculous piece of misinformation. Did the last employer you had that provided a recommendation upon request assist in your job search?

Osborne didn't advocate firing Solich, didn't approve the hiring of Callahan, didn't advocate firing Bo or interview and approve the hiring of Riley.

No. The extensions didn't hurt the program. We didn't lack for funding of anything athletics related. In fact there was even money to expand the stadium and build a new basketball arena.
TO gave his blessing on Pederson. Don't kid yourself.

Of course he didn't advocate firing Solich. He was his failed hand picked successor. And he didn't approve if hiring Callahan because his friend was just fired. And he didn't advocate firing Bo because, again, that was his failed hand picked coach.

So, you acknowledge that Perlman played a much more direct role in the mess than TO. That's progress.

I would like to personally insult you right now but Mods have told me I need to tone it down.

 

[huskerfan2000]

It's f'ing laughable how some of you think he is to blame for Husker football.

You don't see a direct link there.. and how that hire/fire can affect football? Don't forget whoever the AD hires/fires is also a direct link to the Chancellor.

Really, you can't see the chain of command and how that link can affect things from top down?

Here is the link:

Perlman is in charge of the university.

He has people in charge of certain areas that lay out a plan and give him advice as to what to do.

He either signs off on it based on their presentation, or doesn't.

In the end, it's the AD that lives or dies with the decision. It appears to me that Perlman's fault was trusting an AD that hired someone that didn't belong in college football, a psychopath, and perhaps a re-tread that will fail.

So, instead of saying "yes I understand the link" you try to make an excuse? Just admit it, the Chancellor is responsible for all of his subordinates, and their actions are a direct reflections on him.

That doesn't mean he is directly responsible for the play on the field or the lack of recruiting efforts by the coach.

nobody said it did, but that doesn't mean he isn't responsible for the whole operation. Think bigger picture.

 

[cm husker]

You said TO's hand was a constant like Perlman's, but clearly that's not true. I'm not sure why that realization would prompt a personal insult.

 

[StPaulHusker]

It's f'ing laughable how some of you think he is to blame for Husker football.

You don't see a direct link there.. and how that hire/fire can affect football? Don't forget whoever the AD hires/fires is also a direct link to the Chancellor.

Really, you can't see the chain of command and how that link can affect things from top down?

Here is the link:

Perlman is in charge of the university.

He has people in charge of certain areas that lay out a plan and give him advice as to what to do.

He either signs off on it based on their presentation, or doesn't.

In the end, it's the AD that lives or dies with the decision. It appears to me that Perlman's fault was trusting an AD that hired someone that didn't belong in college football, a psychopath, and perhaps a re-tread that will fail.

So, instead of saying "yes I understand the link" you try to make an excuse? Just admit it, the Chancellor is responsible for all of his subordinates, and their actions are a direct reflections on him.

That doesn't mean he is directly responsible for the play on the field or the lack of recruiting efforts by the coach.

nobody said it did, but that doesn't mean he isn't responsible for the whole operation. Think bigger picture.

We will just continue to talk in circles. You believe what you want.

 

[huskerfan2000]

It's f'ing laughable how some of you think he is to blame for Husker football.

You don't see a direct link there.. and how that hire/fire can affect football? Don't forget whoever the AD hires/fires is also a direct link to the Chancellor.

Really, you can't see the chain of command and how that link can affect things from top down?

Here is the link:

Perlman is in charge of the university.

He has people in charge of certain areas that lay out a plan and give him advice as to what to do.

He either signs off on it based on their presentation, or doesn't.

In the end, it's the AD that lives or dies with the decision. It appears to me that Perlman's fault was trusting an AD that hired someone that didn't belong in college football, a psychopath, and perhaps a re-tread that will fail.

So, instead of saying "yes I understand the link" you try to make an excuse? Just admit it, the Chancellor is responsible for all of his subordinates, and their actions are a direct reflections on him.

That doesn't mean he is directly responsible for the play on the field or the lack of recruiting efforts by the coach.

nobody said it did, but that doesn't mean he isn't responsible for the whole operation. Think bigger picture.

We will just continue to talk in circles. You believe what you want.

No disrespect but you clearly have an agenda, whatever that agenda is.

 

[StPaulHusker]

You said TO's hand was a constant like Perlman's, but clearly that's not true. I'm not sure why that realization would prompt a personal insult.

We will agree to disagree. We see it differently. But the reasons to insult you go beyond this.