Ron Brown Returns to Nebraska as Director of Player Development

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It's pretty obvious he gave the address in order to use his position at the university to help make his point or at the very least as a point of pride. It's also obvious the letter from the university was penned to distance itself from his statements. It's pretty surprising this is being argued. I understand arguing that it's not a big deal or that it doesn't matter now. I think Liberty was the right place for him but I'm not terribly concerned.

 
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knapplc said:
What does a few people forgetting passwords have to do with publicly accessible records? You can go down to the Assessor's office in person if you can't use the internet. Ron Brown didn't give Memorial Stadium's address as his own because of any of this.
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I don't presume to know why Coach Brown did or didn't give his home address and why (though I presume to agree with your assessment, and always have), but there's very obviously a huge difference between voluntarily disclosing that info to anyone in earshot vs abstaining and making anyone who's really interested do the work of finding it out themselves. 

 
Landlord said:
I don't presume to know why Coach Brown did or didn't give his home address and why (though I presume to agree with your assessment, and always have), but there's very obviously a huge difference between voluntarily disclosing that info to anyone in earshot vs abstaining and making anyone who's really interested do the work of finding it out themselves. 
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Everyone knows why he gave the address he gave. 

 
knapplc said:
Everyone knows why he gave the address he gave. 
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No, we don't.

But even if we do, this is still such a minor thing to focus on in light of all the good Brown has done, and even in light of all the other public speaking he's done. I remember at least 4-5 times at school sanctioned talks in high school, or at FCA sponsored events open to everyone in my college, whatever, where he's very firmly espoused his particular fundamental/conservative Christian ideals. Some of those contexts were probably legally fine if not ethically suspect - others I don't think were. But the rules don't apply all the same when A) you're a legend around these parts and B) Christianity is still so ingrained into the dominant cultural experience/narrative in our state.

 
Husker_Bohunk said:
Only one person knows that for sure. Everything else is conjecture.
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Well if every other citizen gave their home address, then Ron Brown wasn't presenting himself as an average citizen.

He knew what he was doing. He was proud of what he was doing. Naive to pretend otherwise. 

But Brown was clearly beloved by many players and coaches over the years, a few of them were probably gay, atheist and muslim, and everyone seemed to make it work without incident. That counts for something. You really don't want to know everyone's deepest thoughts, and he seemed to do an excellent job in what he was asked to do. 

Before putting this behind me, I gotta admit that the video -- which I'd never seen before-- was worse than I thought.  Not so much the boilerplate homophobia, but the self-righteous finger-pointing at the Council: If they don't have a personal relationship with God, they can't make the right decision about denying rights to gays.  Who could make the right decision?  Ron Brown, of course. Because he speaks for the Bible. He just forgot that the Bible has just as much to say about the sin of homosexuality as it does the eating  of shellfish or touching of dead pig skin. Didn't see Brown lecturing Red Lobster or boycotting football.  Brown wasn't preaching love at that meeting. He was promoting intolerance and being patronizing about it. 

And it's not just the homosexuality. Taking Ron Brown at face value, he believes his non-Christian players will be going to hell. He we work with them, lead them, mold them into fine young men. But if they don't have a personal relationship with Jesus, they will be burning in hell for eternity. 

That's not a bunch of hyperbole to slam Ron Brown. That's straight out of Ron Brown's playbook. At least when that video was shot.

Times change. People change. Sometimes it's not "political correctness" it's just "correctness."  

I'm cool welcoming Ron Brown as long as we respect why people bring the old stuff back up. It wasn't a little thing. Hopefully we've all grown. 

 
The Dude said:
All the dozens of times I've heard him talk about his religious beliefs.  I needed to hear about it zero times.

There's a time and place for that, and I don't think he realizes that.
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Why listen?  I never listen to the guy.  Just like I never listen to TO when he starts going on about how booze and gambling are wrong.  

 
NU recently had to can a zealot from one end of the sociopolitical spectrum and now we're opening ourselves up for embarrassment with a zealot from the other end. Brown is one of the better coaches in the history of the program but this is a pretty sketchy proposition. Hopefully Frost has made it completely clear Brown needs to keep it to football and avoid any more controversy. 

 
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Wonder how many folks who are just fine with Brown using his stature as a coach to spout anti-gay rhetoric are also the same folks who slam NFL players for kneeling during the anthem to bring awareness to unarmed people being killed by police. 

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
Before putting this behind me, I gotta admit that the video -- which I'd never seen before-- was worse than I thought.  Not so much the boilerplate homophobia, but the self-righteous finger-pointing at the Council: If they don't have a personal relationship with God, they can't make the right decision about denying rights to gays.  Who could make the right decision?  Ron Brown, of course. Because he speaks for the Bible. He just forgot that the Bible has just as much to say about the sin of homosexuality as it does the eating  of shellfish or touching of dead pig skin. Didn't see Brown lecturing Red Lobster or boycotting football.  Brown wasn't preaching love at that meeting. He was promoting intolerance and being patronizing about it. 
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Always fun to see people act they they know something and then prove that they have no idea what they're talking about.

 
Ron Brown developed some damn fine football players while at NU. Hell, just look at the RB's he developed under Bo (Roy, Rex, Ameer), and look at what's happened since then. If some of that teaching/coaching can translate over, it will help overcome the debacle of the last 3 years sooner.

 
Landlord said:
No, we don't.

But even if we do, this is still such a minor thing to focus on in light of all the good Brown has done, and even in light of all the other public speaking he's done. I remember at least 4-5 times at school sanctioned talks in high school, or at FCA sponsored events open to everyone in my college, whatever, where he's very firmly espoused his particular fundamental/conservative Christian ideals. Some of those contexts were probably legally fine if not ethically suspect - others I don't think were. But the rules don't apply all the same when A) you're a legend around these parts and B) Christianity is still so ingrained into the dominant cultural experience/narrative in our state.
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Maybe using his position during his arguments was minor but what he was fighting for was not. He was fighting against a law that would make it illegal to discriminate against/fire employees solely for their sexual orientation.

 
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