Maurice Washington Faces Charges

Moiraine said:
Some of the things we’re talking about may make it hard to find a job but aren’t necessarily “wrong” and shouldn’t be made to be wrong by creating new laws.
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I'm not saying, in any way, that we need new laws for this situation...although, that is what our reactionary society tends to do.  I was simply saying that is the point of having laws, in general.  

 
Cdog923 said:
That's where we differ; I'm talking about the pure legality of the issue, because that's ultimately how you're going to fairly determine what sort of punishment, if any, Washington will get. If he's 18 and in a relationship with a 15 year old, I have no opinion on that matter, because my opinion doesn't matter; as long as it's consensual between the parties and parents involved, then I couldn't care less. However, in this case, if we take the allegations at face value (not placing a value judgement on whether he's guilty or innocent), he is accused of obtaining an illegally recorded video, keeping said video, and distributing the video to an involved party with the intent of causing mental anguish or harm to that person, all of which fall under the purview of the California legal system. 

So, ultimately, it doesn't matter what type of a moral or value judgement you, me or anyone places upon it; it's purely a question of legality at this point. 
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Why would legality determine the overall punishment Washington gets? Frost and the AD’s decision won’t be based on the legal consequences. He may not serve any time at all, so the biggest question is how Frost deals with him. He may kick him off the team if there is no legal punishment. He may keep him on the team even if he’s on probation. 

Some would argue the bar should be higher for Frost. Others would argue the law ignored context and he should go easy. 

 
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Guy Chamberlin said:
That's an assumption that I strongly disagree with, based on the decades of glee that Husker fans shared when Oklahoma and Miami players got caught in youthful tomfoolery.
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People piled on OU & Miami when their players got caught.

People are piling on Maurice Washington here.

I'm cornfused how the one obviates the other.

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
That's an assumption that I strongly disagree with, based on the decades of glee that Husker fans shared when Oklahoma and Miami players got caught in youthful tomfoolery.
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If it was someone on another team, we probably wouldn't analyze it as deeply as we are with this case. We might just see a misleading headline about a player being charged with child porn and jump to conclusions based on our biases and emotions. The same thing happened in this case, but since it is close to home we have dissected it for 10 pages, and there has been a variety of opinions.

I recall the Urban Meyer saga in August led to just as much discussion. Even though many of us wanted to see him burn because he dislike OSU and Meyer is a d-bag, many of us put a lot of thought into that situation and discussed many reasonable outcomes while it was still up in the air.

 
knapplc said:
People piled on OU & Miami when their players got caught.

People are piling on Maurice Washington here.

I'm cornfused how the one obviates the other.
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The same people who piled on opposing players who got caught tended to plead for much more understanding and less public scrutiny when the player was from Nebraska. Especially if that player was a starter. You know we'd be having a different conversation if Maurice Washington was a player who spurned Nebraska and signed with Iowa. 

 
Moiraine said:
Why would legality determine the overall punishment Washington gets? Frost and the AD’s decision won’t be based on the legal consequences. He may not serve any time at all, so the biggest question is how Frost deals with him. He may kick him off the team if there is no legal punishment. He may keep him on the team even if he’s on probation. 
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A couple reasons: 

1. It's the easiest method by which to proceed. If he's not convicted of anything, or similarly, pleads down and receives probation, Frost can easily say "we're going to keep him in the program, work with him and try and help him grow into a better person". (AKA, the "Lawrence"). If he receives something harsher than that, your hand is forced, and you remove him from the team. 

2. It ultimately takes morality out of the equation as much as possible. The questions about whether or not it's moral for an 18 year old and a 15 year old to have sex don't fit this situation, because it's not what Washington is accused of. If you base your judgement of whether or not Washington should remain in the program based on what he's actually accused of, it's very difficult for Frost to make the argument to keep him on the team, and you're remove Washington's right to due process. Now, I completely understand that this doesn't (and shouldn't) always happen, and in some situations (Kareem Hunt), it's impossible to wait for the legal system to diligently play out before you make a decision. However, in my opinion, it's real easy to say something to the extent of "we didn't know the depth of the situation last year, but we're going to let Maurice go through the legal system before making a decision on his standing with the Nebraska Football program" (I personally think he should be suspended from all team activities until further notice, but that's just me).

TL;DR: the legal process is the easiest method for Frost to make a decision, particularly if the ultimate goal is keeping Washington in Lincoln. 

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
The same people who piled on opposing players who got caught tended to plead for much more understanding and less public scrutiny when the player was from Nebraska. Especially if that player was a starter. You know we'd be having a different conversation if Maurice Washington was a player who spurned Nebraska and signed with Iowa.  
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People who jump to conclusions are people who jump to conclusions. If I didn't word that palatably, my apologies.

 
knapplc said:
People who jump to conclusions are people who jump to conclusions. If I didn't word that palatably, my apologies.
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Has this been covered?  Came out about 20 minutes ago

https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/nebraska-maurice-washington-charged-assault-video/

"Hamilton said she decided to file charges Dec. 17 and is now waiting for a judge to sign a warrant for Washington’s arrest. She said it typically takes two or three months for a warrant to be signed after charges of this type are filed. Once a warrant is signed, Washington would face extradition from Nebraska or he could return to California on his own and surrender to authorities."

 
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