Political DBag Hall of Fame

[Apathy]

and crying about having your avatar banned proves....what?  

Crying? No not at all...but I do find it comical for people to get offended over an avatar bahahaha

It also proves that this board is hypocritical and  favors a lot of people on this board over petty s#!t like this. 

For a lot of people who claim to be open minded sure as hell saw that Trump avatar closed the door, locked it and threw the key away lol

 

[B.B. Hemingway]

Can we all agree that whoever "brought it to the Mods' attention" are douchebags?.... Because they are.

 

[Apathy]

Can we all agree that who "brought it to the Mods' attention" are douchebags?.... Because they are.

 

[Redux]

Sorry but this new policy enforcement, long overdue or not, feels directed at a specific poster and not as a "sorry we should have done this before" type thing.  It never would have been done had Trump not been an avatar by someone who supports him and is semi active in P&R.

I am ALL FOR keeping the politics off the main forum and status updates, but even this feels really petty to get offended by to the point the mod team had to change policy.

 

[Thanks_Tom RR]

Crying? No not at all...but I do find it comical for people to get offended over an avatar bahahaha

It also proves that this board is hypocritical and  favors a lot of people on this board over petty s#!t like this. 

For a lot of people who claim to be open minded sure as hell saw that Trump avatar closed the door, locked it and threw the key away lol

Well, here you are off the mark. In this situation, the decision was to remove political content from avatars (coming for you next, @B.B. Hemingway  ) because once the issue was raised, we as a mod team determined it was inconsistent to enforce a policy to exclude political content from posts and updates and ignore avatar images that appear in said posts and updates which portray political images. If you can’t understand that and get behind the logic of it, then that’s too bad.

 

[Redux]

But the difference is he changed it and immediately it became a hot button issue among members who disagree with him as opposed to several months of Anti Trump avatars and not one complaint from him or anyone else.  Kinda enforces the idea that complaining and getting offended get you what you want.

To be honest, I almost changed mine because Moiraine immediately expressed a dislike for it and I didn't know whether or not to take it seriously.

 

[Mierin]

To be honest, I almost changed mine because Moiraine immediately expressed a dislike for it and I didn't know whether or not to take it seriously.

Not sure if I'm understanding the last part of your post. Are you talking about Dewiz's avatar?

Could be because the others were anti a racist/sexist and the other was for a racist/sexist. Just a thought. :dunno

Are you talking about this? 'Cause it wasn't immediate. Someone posted about the avatar at 7:39pm last night. I replied about it almost 24 hours later and I didn't say anything to the mods about any avatar. We're talking in the political dbag hall of fame right now, so ya I expressed dislike for a photo of Trump. I didn't talk about avatars anywhere but right here. I think there's a difference between an avatar of Hitler and an anti-Hitler avatar. That wouldn't just be a political issue, and since Trump is a racist and misogynist (not as bad as having millions of people murdered, I agree), it's not merely a political issue to many people. It's a racist avatar compared to anti-racist avatars to some. If I was a mod I would either allow neither or both, though, just to avoid having to deal with it.

The thing is, I'm pretty sure there are several conservative mods. It's quite possible many of them never saw the swastika/45 avatar. And almost no one noticed NM's. I think the most likely explanation is that the forum users didn't complain about the other 2 avatars and many/most of the mods weren't aware of them, not that the mods decided not to do anything about them.

 

[Redux]

No the last part was about my avatar, the Momo.  I remember you making a ban him joke, I just didn't really know how in jest it was and whether or not I should change it.

At the obvious risk of getting labeled a Trump nut hugger, that's a reach.  Comparing Trump to Hitler is extreme, even if you parenthesis that it's extreme.  You're still pushing that notion and it's just unnecessary.  An Anti Trump avatar is more offensive than a picture of Trump avatar if you look at it in an unobjectionable way.  A Trump avatar is not racist just because you say he is a racist.

The most obvious answer to the bottom is that even though people like Dewiz noticed them, he didn't cry about it.  There's the difference.  It didn't offend him just because it went against his stance.

This is a shining example of why politics are f#&%ing stupid.  A f#&%ing avatar triggered a bunch of people.  Smgdh.

 

[Thanks_Tom RR]

But the difference is he changed it and immediately it became a hot button issue among members who disagree with him as opposed to several months of Anti Trump avatars and not one complaint from him or anyone else.  Kinda enforces the idea that complaining and getting offended get you what you want.

To be honest, I almost changed mine because Moiraine immediately expressed a dislike for it and I didn't know whether or not to take it seriously.

Well, that is a feature, nay the intent, of the report function, to draw the attention of the mod team to a potential issue. We are under no obligation to act on all reports submitted, I assure we do not. Yet, it this case the reports regarding Dewiz’ avatar made the mod team elevate the discussion about if we are acting consistent within our enforcement of our “no politics outside of the PR forum” policy if we allow politically-based avatars.

“Complaining and getting offended” will not get you what you want here, unless your complaints happen to coincide with board rules and policies.

 

[Cdog923]

I do have to say, I'm a little disappointed in the crowd in here for letting themselves get so upset about an avatar.  The sole purpose of that avatar was to grind the gears of those who dislike Trump to such a point it ruins their day, and it is clearly working.  This is the kinda thing I brought up the other day, the mood here is just not fun.  That said I don't think he should have to change it.  While ot is political because of who it is, I don't think it pushes an agenda.  Rather just a badge of support.  Granted that badge is ruffling feathers, but it shouldn't.  If you want him to win, keep complaining about it.

Rule's a rule, and it has to be applied fairly to everyone. 

 

[Mierin]

No the last part was about my avatar, the Momo.  I remember you making a ban him joke, I just didn't really know how in jest it was and whether or not I should change it.

At the obvious risk of getting labeled a Trump nut hugger, that's a reach.  Comparing Trump to Hitler is extreme, even if you parenthesis that it's extreme.  You're still pushing that notion and it's just unnecessary.  An Anti Trump avatar is more offensive than a picture of Trump avatar if you look at it in an unobjectionable way.  A Trump avatar is not racist just because you say he is a racist.

The most obvious answer to the bottom is that even though people like Dewiz noticed them, he didn't cry about it.  There's the difference.  It didn't offend him because it went against his stance.

This is a shining example of why politics are f#&%ing stupid.  A f#&%ing avatar triggered a bunch of people.  Smgdh.

Obviously I was kidding about your avatar. You've never had any sense of my sense of humor, though, since as you say you think I've never smiled.

I don't think Trump has done anything remotely as bad as Hitler, but Hitler is the perfect fall back to explain how this is not merely a political topic. It's easy for people to immediately understand, as long as they don't go nuts thinking you're saying Trump is Hitler, which of course I knew would happen. The point is, if someone had an avatar of Hitler, it would not be the same as someone having an anti-Hitler avatar. Since Trump is considered a racist and misogynist, it's the same concept to people who think that. It's not merely the case of pro or against your average non racist/sexist political candidate you disagree with.

I think you and Dewiz are overreacting about how "triggered" people got over the avatar. I think the main reason at least one person complained is because they didn't think political status updates should be banned in the first place, but they think what they think is a stupid rule should have to be applied equally now that we have it.

 

[Redux]

Rule's a rule, and it has to be applied fairly to everyone. 

Except this was a rule made on the fly targeting a specific member, inadvertently or not.

 

[Cdog923]

Hey, I'm one of the lib-iest members of the board, and I'm in here saying I think you should be able to have whatever you want, even if I think it's weird.

Pretty similar to how I feel about the First Amendment. Everyone should have the right to say their piece, even if it's stupid and there will be consequences for doing so.

There's no government entity at work here, though. 

Except this was a rule made on the fly targeting a specific member, inadvertently or not.

And it's being applied to everyone that falls under it's purview. If Dewiz was forced to change his avatar and no one else, you'd have an argument. 

 

[Redux]

Obviously I was kidding about your avatar.

I don't think Trump has done anything remotely as bad as Hitler, but Hitler is the perfect fall back to explain how this is not merely a political topic. It's easy for people to immediately understand, as long as they don't go nuts thinking you're saying Trump is Hitler, which of course I knew would happen. The point is, if someone had an avatar of Hitler, it would not be the same as someone having an anti-Hitler avatar. Since Trump is considered a racist and misogynist, it's the same concept to people who think that. It's not merely the case of pro or against a political candidate.

I think you and Dewiz are overreacting about how "triggered" people got over the avatar. I think the main reason at least one person complained is because they didn't think political status updates should be banned in the first place, but they think what they think is a stupid rule should have to be applied equally now that we have it.

Hitler isn't a perfect fall back, it's the stereotypical fall back.  Anti vs Pro is always going to be different, obviously.  But would this had ever been an issue had someone made a Hillary avatar and Dewiz complained about it?  f#&% no, he would have been made fun of and that would have been the correct end of it.

 

[Redux]

And it's being applied to everyone that falls under it's purview. If Dewiz was forced to change his avatar and no one else, you'd have an argument. 

Lol yeah, NOW everyone is forced....after he was made an example of because he became the target.  Come on, don't act dense.