Maurice Washington Faces Charges

CapoValley said:
People conjuring up “second video holder from behind the grassy knoll” defenses to try and justify why a one half suspension was perfectly fine, is certainly something. 
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I'm not sure if people are doing that to defend the suspension length. I for one do think we should have gone with 4 games and a statement. I think some people are disagreeing with the notion this incident should define Washington and are providing possibilies to show this is more likely teenage antics than actual full on character flaw that cannot be fixed.

 
30-50 Feral Hogs said:
I'm going to say that an adult keeping a video on his phone of a 15 year old girl engaged in any kind of sexual act, consensual, coerced, or otherwise is pretty damn bad.  Even if that adult is 18 years old
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knapplc said:
DANG!!!! You sure you want to go out on that limb!?!?!?

I mean... who disagrees with that?  :lol:
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Well actually, considering what kids send each other on social media etc. these days, and considering he knew and dated the girl about 3 years prior, and considering they are the same age, I don’t happen to feel it’s necessarily that damn bad.  I would equate it to an 18 year old having sex with his 16 or 17 year old girlfriend and then being charged with statutory rape.

Maybe I’m getting soft in my old age.

 
CapoValley said:
People conjuring up “second video holder from behind the grassy knoll” defenses to try and justify why a one half suspension was perfectly fine, is certainly something. 
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What I'm mainly seeing in your posts is that when you were shown the wisdom in waiting for the courts to sort out the facts as they pertain to the charges that you've doubled down. 

To a degree where at this point I feel like there are two main scenarios: You're either being really dense or you're trolling.

 
Nebfanatic said:
I'm not sure if people are doing that to defend the suspension length. I for one do think we should have gone with 4 games and a statement. I think some people are disagreeing with the notion this incident should define Washington and are providing possibilies to show this is more likely teenage antics than actual full on character flaw that cannot be fixed.
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I’m not sure actually why they’re doing other than to be difficult because if that scenario had any chance of being valid, the authorities in question would have prosecuted that person who sent it to Mo as well. 

As to your character flaw point, I mean I’d like to agree that this doesn’t mean he can’t be helped. I will admit on the fact, not speculation, assumption or whatever, the fact that he sent out that video to that girl with the intent to shame her and make her feel bad. Because she wouldn’t hook up with him. This thread has quibbled over the child porn tag but it’s absolutely revenge porn, and just a horrible thing to do.  It also carries a penalty in California. 

 
Undone said:
What I'm mainly seeing in your posts is that when you were shown the wisdom in waiting for the courts to sort out the facts as they pertain to the charges that you've doubled down. 

To a degree where at this point I feel like there are two main scenarios: You're either being really dense or you're trolling.
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I just think you and I don’t agree on how it’s being handled. Because I don’t see the wisdom on waiting. 

 
knapplc said:
There are SO MANY possibilities in this scenario that all of these presumptions are just spinning tires. The ONLY thing we know is he sent her the video.
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Or he handed the phone to a friend and told him to deal with her and the friend sent the video.  I don't find it useful to throw out hopeful possibilities except to say that if Frost confronted Mo with what has been reported and Mo denies it or tells him that things didn't happen that way and the court case will prove it, I think it would be difficult for Frost to impose a heavy punishment now.

 
BlitzFirst said:
Question to all of you who feel he should be suspended indefinitely, kicked off the team, etc.

Read the scenario below, insert yourself into it and answer the question following:

At a place you work at, a fellow employee goes to the police and claims you assaulted them.  Charges are filed based on this claim and evidence of you and the employee having not so great interactions in the past.  You are arrested (not at work).  A court date is set for 2 months in the future.

Should you be fired from your job?
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Just to make this the same thing - you also have a video of the coworker performing a sex act when she was only 15 and to get back at her you send it to her.  Now that we are comparing apples to apples, YES YOU SHOULD BE FIRED! 

This isn't a question as to what he did.  He had a video of a child performing a sex act and he sent that video on.   The question seems to be how bad is this really.  If I were the girls father, and someone who was of legal age still had an old video that should have been deleted or reported as soon as it was received and then sent that video in revenge there would probably be an entirely different trial being discussed because that is just sick, wrong, and thankfully illegal.

 
4skers89 said:
Or he handed the phone to a friend and told him to deal with her and the friend sent the video.  I don't find it useful to throw out hopeful possibilities except to say that if Frost confronted Mo with what has been reported and Mo denies it or tells him that things didn't happen that way and the court case will prove it, I think it would be difficult for Frost to impose a heavy punishment now.
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If that's the case, then the university can come out and say the facts of the case are in dispute, so they're waiting for all the evidence to come out before making a decision. That's not an unreasonable stance for the university, but it requires the statement to show some transparency in their decision-making.

 
CapoValley said:
I’m not sure actually why they’re doing other than to be difficult because if that scenario had any chance of being valid, the authorities in question would have prosecuted that person who sent it to Mo as well. 

As to your character flaw point, I mean I’d like to agree that this doesn’t mean he can’t be helped. I will admit on the fact, not speculation, assumption or whatever, the fact that he sent out that video to that girl with the intent to shame her and make her feel bad. Because she wouldn’t hook up with him. This thread has quibbled over the child porn tag but it’s absolutely revenge porn, and just a horrible thing to do.  It also carries a penalty in California. 
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It is revenge porn. It is absolutely wrong what he did. But revenge porn is a misdeminor and carries a much different penalty and connotation than child pornography. I'm sorry that I don't think Maurice should have to register as a sex offender for life over this. Again, I am not here saying I don't care about what he did, but I think its important we look at this in the proper context rather than overblowing the situation.

 
Nebfanatic said:
It is revenge porn. It is absolutely wrong what he did. But revenge porn is a misdeminor and carries a much different penalty and connotation than child pornography. I'm sorry that I don't think Maurice should have to register as a sex offender for life over this. Again, I am not here saying I don't care about what he did, but I think its important we look at this in the proper context rather than overblowing the situation.
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I plus 1’d this, because I honestly didn’t know that it was a misdemeanor. 

Who knows?  Maybe this is what it ends up being. It doesn’t change the fact that I think that he shouldn’t play until it’s over, or that the blowback Nebraska and Frost will get and are beginning to get is worth it. 

 
CapoValley said:
I just think you and I don’t agree on how it’s being handled. Because I don’t see the wisdom on waiting. 
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You don’t see the wisdom in waiting?

So, in a nutshell, you’re perfectly fine with condemning a person based on an allegation? You want him punished, and apparently severely, now. A bell that can’t be unrung. Even considering the fact that appropriate punishment by the Nebraska football team can easily be meted out after the facts are in and the legal system has done its thing. Good to know.

 
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