Will There Be a 2020 Football Season?

Chances of a 2020 season?

  • Full 12 Game Schedule

    Votes: 20 36.4%

  • Shortened Season

    Votes: 13 23.6%

  • No Games Played

    Votes: 22 40.0%
  • Total voters
    55
  • Poll closed .
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You see that John Cleese is holding a pig...get it...pigskin?....related to football?

But I think we have missed the argument here because this is a crucial aspect. 

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/ncaa-board-of-governors-vote-could-strike-significant-blow-to-fbs-college-football-being-played-this-fall/

On Friday, the NCAA Board of Governors is scheduled to consider voting on whether to cancel fall championships. One source told CBS Sports that is the only agenda item for the NCAA's highest governing body.While the vote -- in the moment -- would have no direct or immediate impact on the FBS, the implications of such a decision are significant, layered, complicated and maybe tragic.

While the season probably isn't going to go away Friday, it soon could. Through that board -- mostly presidents and chancellors from all NCAA divisions -- the association has more leverage than ever over major-college football, a sport of which it has largely lost oversight.

My prediction: I will predict that these people vote to cancel fall sports championships in an effort to put back and emphasize the "student" in "student-athlete"; thus maintaining its sense of being an amateur sport and at the same time, gain back some authority over the sport. The article mentions that here:

With Friday's vote, the board could win back some of that lost turf while backing the FBS football into a corner. 

Thus, the NCAA would be able to hold off or "kick the can down the road" so to speak, in avoiding the legal issues and the issues of NIL as well as the "paid employee" situation while retaining their monopoly. And at the same time, have the major virtue signal that follows the premise of "student-athlete health and safety is paramount" premise that has been bandied around. These folks are in a delicate situation as they will be blamed for being the impetus for driving the dismantling of a season; however, I am thinking that they are looking at the long-term gain plan and the avoiding of the outrage and grievance industry especially in a pandemic. Also, there has been some concern of student-athletes in the PAC12 hitching a fit about their demands. What better way than to shut down that argument for now? 

 
"You can't compare the United States to other countries..."

For some reason I only see people use this as an argument and defense when we suck at something? We suck a$$ at dealing with a pandemic, YEAH BUT IT' SD IFFERENT HERE. We suck at letting a s#!t ton of people get mowed down by mass shooters YEAH BECUZ AMERICA IS FREE ITS NOT LIKE EUROPE. Suck tremendously at healthcare YEA WELL THATS BCUZ WERE NOT SOCIALISTS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

Weird that I never see people warning against comparison when we're supposedly good at something, it's only a contortionist twist to not have to admit that we're garbage.

 
Landlord said:
"You can't compare the United States to other countries..."

For some reason I only see people use this as an argument and defense when we suck at something? We suck a$$ at dealing with a pandemic, YEAH BUT IT' SD IFFERENT HERE. We suck at letting a s#!t ton of people get mowed down by mass shooters YEAH BECUZ AMERICA IS FREE ITS NOT LIKE EUROPE. Suck tremendously at healthcare YEA WELL THATS BCUZ WERE NOT SOCIALISTS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

Weird that I never see people warning against comparison when we're supposedly good at something, it's only a contortionist twist to not have to admit that we're garbage.
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We have superior natural resources than many middle eastern and African countries, outside of oil, which helps us out tremendously. Does that count?

If it was so great everywhere else people wouldn't want to come into the USA I promise you that. If Mexico was as good as the United States I would rather live there....but there is a reason it is the opposite. 

 
BIG ERN said:
We have superior natural resources than many middle eastern and African countries, outside of oil, which helps us out tremendously. Does that count?

If it was so great everywhere else people wouldn't want to come into the USA I promise you that. If Mexico was as good as the United States I would rather live there....but there is a reason it is the opposite. 
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Which makes our failure to get this virus under control, while other countries have, so glaring. 

 
BIG ERN said:
We have superior natural resources than many middle eastern and African countries, outside of oil, which helps us out tremendously. Does that count?

If it was so great everywhere else people wouldn't want to come into the USA I promise you that. If Mexico was as good as the United States I would rather live there....but there is a reason it is the opposite. 
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Do they though? How many people are really trying to get here from say Denmark or Germany? Canada? Ok we have better opportunities than Mexico but I hate to break it to you, being better than Mexico hardly means we are the best 

 
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Branno said:
You're right about one thing, I can't argue against a logical fallacy. So I have to dismiss what is honestly not a good point or argument to make. But that I'm making stuff up? Please. Tell me how I made anything up when I correctly pointed out that the inherent risk in football isn't equivocal to the increased and preventable risk of COVID-19 exposure.
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The logical fallacy is you assuming their risk of getting COVID goes down significantly if they don't play football.  That taking kids out of a very structured situation where everyone they are around is being monitored and tested and they are receiving guidance about what to do is somehow significantly more risky than having those things removed from them.  And then you'd have to have knowledge of what exactly hundreds of college kids are now going to choose to do with their dozens of hours each week that is no longer being spent on football is going to now be spent doing.  Because I'm sure it won't be spent mixing significantly more with the general student population let alone the community population at large that is definitely all taking the virus very seriously and doing everything possible to prevent it's spread.

But please, continue to lecture me about logical fallacies.

Want to have a good faith argument, instead of attacking me? Yes there is risk inherent to the game of football, but we do what we can to mitigate that risk and accept it. It's why we wear pads, and penalize dangerous hits. The game today is completely different because of that risk. 
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You lecture me about bad arguments, logical fallacies and talking nonsense and then complain that I'm attacking you.  That's nice.

Are you honestly suggesting that there is no increased risk in contracting COVID-19 by playing a contact sport like football?
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I never said that.  There was a "you might be fine with having players risk their health so we can watch football but I'm not" type post that I was responding to.  The condescending tone of that post struck me as hollow since players are always assuming risk to play.  But, like I said, you're making stuff up that I didn't say so that you can have something to argue against.

 
Nebfanatic said:
Do they though? How many people are really trying to get here from say Denmark or Germany? Canada? Ok we have better opportunities than Mexico but I hate to break it to you but being better than Mexico hardly means we are the best 
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There are 195 countries in the world and you MAYBE could put 5 ahead of the United States. I think that says enough. IMO you couldn't put one ahead due to the start up opportunities like we have here. 

 
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Mavric said:
The logical fallacy is you assuming their risk of getting COVID goes down significantly if they don't play football.  That taking kids out of a very structured situation where everyone they are around is being monitored and tested and they are receiving guidance about what to do is somehow significantly more risky than having those things removed from them.  And then you'd have to have knowledge of what exactly hundreds of college kids are now going to choose to do with their dozens of hours each week that is no longer being spent on football is going to now be spent doing.  Because I'm sure it won't be spent mixing significantly more with the general student population let alone the community population at large that is definitely all taking the virus very seriously and doing everything possible to prevent it's spread.
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To be fair, if they don't play football, the student athletes have the option to stay home whereas playing football involves being in close contact with dozens of people from all around the country every week. Them being monitored and having structure involves them coming in close contact with dozens of people daily. Without structure they can stay at home and only come into close contact with people who have masks on. Also, how fair is it that these students get regular covid testing to engage in their activity but someone in a different activity won't get the same opportunity? Honestly if other sports or activities are cancelled and don't get this kind of treatment im not sure how you can justify it for football. Money I guess but if thats the motivation there are some issues.

 
BIG ERN said:
There are 195 countries in the world and you MAYBE could put 5 ahead of the United States. I think that says enough. IMO you couldn't put one ahead due to the start up opportunities like we have here. 
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we rank middle of the pack in many many metrics. Much worse than 5th. You are just saying this because you've been raised on American exceptionalism. I have some bad news for you though, America isn't that exceptional. 

 
Nebfanatic said:
we rank middle of the pack in many many metrics. Much worse than 5th. You are just saying this because you've been raised on American exceptionalism. I have some bad news for you though, America isn't that exceptional. 
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Have you traveled? What countries are better? If so, why would you not want to live there? 

 
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