SouthLincoln Husker
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It does not matter who the qb is, our oline & special teams suck!Same crap, different QB.
Didn't see Smothers do anything good or bad that I haven't seen from Martinez.
It does not matter who the qb is, our oline & special teams suck!Same crap, different QB.
Didn't see Smothers do anything good or bad that I haven't seen from Martinez.
Trevor Lawrence is a perfect example. He was a phenomenal QB, but to your point, he could throw the ball and ran well enough that teams had to acct for his legs. Either on designed runs or when he scrambled. Under Frost, our O became solely predicated in the running ability of the QB.
Exactly my point. We’re not going to swim with the big fish.We're hardly a "high profile" program. Lots of Nebraska fans like to think we are, but we're not.
I agree. I use him as an example of a QB who was a passer first and last, but Dabo and Co were smart enough to improve and develop his ability to make DC's be concerned about his ability to run. Even though he would never be considered a "running qb". If we recruited an actual QB and developed some plays to use his legs, we would be bowling right now. And last year and ....We don't have to have a Trevor Lawrence though to just go 7-5 and beat Illinois & Minnesota.
Even a Todd Reesing would make this scheme light up like fire.
Hire Dan Mullen and some of those LSU guys and we are bowling at minimum.Exactly my point. We’re not going to swim with the big fish.
ST coach would have gotten us 3 more wins this. year..........or more.Hire Dan Mullen and some of those LSU guys and we are bowling at minimum.
What?
Do you remember last year when Frost benched Martinez for McNuggets...and then we got blown out by Illinois?
Smothers doesn't have pocket presence. Martinez & Smothers are the same basic "run-first" guy that have both been coached by who would now seem to be a pretty bad quarterback coach. He wouldn't have done any better than Adrian, IMO.
And neither one has anything to do with special teams. They are both victims of it. As are we.Umm...Smothers just had the team leading heading into the 4th quarter against a ranked opponent. Frost made it sound like nobody was close to being able to come in to replace Martinez but we saw today Smothers could get the job done. There were many games this season where AM was clearly in pain or he was just having a horrible game and needed to be taken out.
As for pocket presence, I agree that both AM and Smothers are not natural pocket passers which is why the play calling from Frost has been horrendous late in games. We had some good offense in the first half while we were running the option and mixing things up and I believe had nearly 70% of plays that were run plays. If you go back and look at the 2nd half Frost went away from moving the QB around and made him sit in the pocket. That is why we keep losing games. Frost is not playing to the natural strengths of his QBs and is instead calling plays to keep them in the pocket.
And neither one has anything to do with special teams. They are both victims of it. As are we.
Yup. It was the prefect Segway for thoughts that were running In my brain which was would Adrain have made a difference?I agree about special teams but my response was to comments specific to the QBs.
You are not completely wrong, but on flip side, last play of 3rd qtr. SF calls zone read, playing exactly into qb strength. Smothers had running lane for HUGE gain to go well into Iowa territory. Smother drops ball , dives on it, outing us well behind chains. So that gets pinned on SF. SF calls another option, Smothers fumbles again! Pin it on SF. I coach for a living and some of you guys make my dayUmm...Smothers just had the team leading heading into the 4th quarter against a ranked opponent. Frost made it sound like nobody was close to being able to come in to replace Martinez but we saw today Smothers could get the job done. There were many games this season where AM was clearly in pain or he was just having a horrible game and needed to be taken out.
As for pocket presence, I agree that both AM and Smothers are not natural pocket passers which is why the play calling from Frost has been horrendous late in games. We had some good offense in the first half while we were running the option and mixing things up and I believe had nearly 70% of plays that were run plays. If you go back and look at the 2nd half Frost went away from moving the QB around and made him sit in the pocket. That is why we keep losing games. Frost is not playing to the natural strengths of his QBs and is instead calling plays to keep them in the pocket.