No no no. I am saying IT IS NOT SA. It falls under the "definition" of SA but I don't think it is just as you don't think it is.
Here is what I actually said, acknowledging that it was adapted from one of the most well known books: "This is one of the best known books, ever, about an extremely important topic, adapted into a graphic novel format." The content came directly from the original diary.
I have no idea what the lesson plan was and neither do you. The hysteria seems to be stemming from a single page, but I would be very surprised if the lesson plan centered around this one page. I might surmise that the purpose of teaching the book altogether was to explore the thoughts and feelings of a middle school aged girl while going through such a harrowing experience, presented in a way that middle school students could identify with. But that's just a guess.
Okay then.
But it was certainly fueled by hysteria. Teachers make questionable pedagogical choices all the time. I'm sure that neither you nor I would choose to teach Anne Frank in the same manner that this teacher did. But the faux outrage over this issue is not driven by pedagogy, it is driven by hysteria, similar to books being removed all across the country for simply discussing race, sex, or LGBTQ issues. You did not directly advocate for banning books, yet you posted note that claimed that the book depicted molestation and that the teacher asked students to discuss molestation. You presented this as "relevant context" even though the claims were hyperbolic and untrue. Posts like this attempt to justify the horrible reaction from the school district. Even you agree that the outcome was ridiculous.
Yet you are getting hysterical about another person pointing out their view of it’s inappropriate for that age group.
I’ll have to ask my daughter if her or her friends identified with a friend saying that their boobs should be on display as a show of friendship while she was in middle school and if that would be an important topic to discuss. I would surmise not but we shall see.
I agree it’s reasonable, which is why I posted about Ben Collins and yes we both agree the teacher shouldn’t be fired, just coached up a bit on how to teach or move to a higher grade level.
No, I think I said previously that it's fair to have differing thoughts on the appropriateness of it. However, I definitely am getting worked up on the frequency and normalization of censorship and the suppression of uncomfortable topics. We should talk about these things more at school and at home. But too many people are scared or offended by discussing things like sex and race, even though kids are actually ready for it and need these conversations sooner than most adults realize.
Very tactful of you. I would guess that if this is how you talk to your daughters about sexuality, they will certainly not be inclined to engage in a healthy dialogue. How about you zoom about a little bit and question whether or not middle school girls would be curious about sexuality. Maybe have your wife ask them instead (unless she is one of the Moms For Liberty).
What, pedagogy? Fair question, but I didn't realize it was such an obscure word. My wife is an educational researcher, and I have heard and read the word "pedagogy" in my household thousands of times over the years. I've also written several investigative reports involving faculty members (germane to this conversation, as I have actually had to investigate claims of discrimination or harassment based on the content of an instructor's curriculum) and have used "pedagogy" or "pedagogical" in context for those reports. Although I definitely agree it is better to use clear, simple language whenever possible.
No.
No.
If I am a Title IX Coordinator at a school, and someone brings me this book, opens up to that page, and says they would like to make a sexual assault complaint, this is the response I would give:
Being open and honest and upfront at home is no longer healthy dialogue? BTW we’ve always had healthy dialogue about any discussion but thanks for parenting advice
Well, having had three discussions already about sexuality at home, yes in MS for all three, soooo I think I’ve zoomed out enough.
What are you confused about? By definition it falls under SA.
No it is not, stop saying that. I'm quite familiar with sexual assault. You're out of your element, Donnie.