project 2025

Archy1221 said:
Ok, I will ask you then.  Do you honestly think Trump will get elected and then after four years decide to not leave and the country will be like “ok we now have a King/Emporer/President for life?” 
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the 2025 project would be happy with trump...but it says it's about giving expanded powers to whoever the next republican is to in the presidency   

 
:smokin  This sounds like the QAnon belief that Trump would be declared president in January of 2021. Look how that turned out. Or maybe the New World Order that was supposed to be ushered in 20+ years ago. Actually,  it's those dang Free Masons.

 
The level of naivety of history and how authoritarian takeovers have occurred being posted in this thread is comical if it wasn't so myopic.  It's the exact same level of ignorance that authoritarians rely on to seize power. The founding fathers anticipated the dangers of a rogue trying to overturn the Constitution.  They didn't envision an entire party attempting to do so.  Project 2025 is the blueprint in how to do that. It's more than just a fringe group of Republicans who've embraced the manifesto.

Besides even if that's not bad enough and just "meh" is replacing experts throughout our government with inexperienced stooges who pass the far right-wing litmus test is a recipe for disaster.

 
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nic said:
:smokin  This sounds like the QAnon belief that Trump would be declared president in January of 2021. Look how that turned out. Or maybe the New World Order that was supposed to be ushered in 20+ years ago. Actually,  it's those dang Free Masons.
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Remind me of the nearly 1000 page "how to" manuals written by the likes of the Heritage Foundation those conspiracy theories put forth.  Thanks.  

 
nic said:
:smokin  This sounds like the QAnon belief that Trump would be declared president in January of 2021. Look how that turned out. Or maybe the New World Order that was supposed to be ushered in 20+ years ago. Actually,  it's those dang Free Masons.
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you do realize there really is a 2025 project?   right?  it's not fiction.

 
Moiraine said:
Except that Trump attempted a coup already. Other than that. 
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He attempted to sue his way back into a bunch of recounts and failed. Its not the first time that has been attempted or suggested. Then a bunch of Qanon conspiracy theorists tried to self fulfill their own 'prophecies' and ranscked the capital. Trump was more than happy to to let them try. That didn't work either, and most were probably caught and punished. The right has similar conspiracy theories about how the left is pushing the US to Marxism or communism or socialism. Whatever it is, it's gonna fail to take over, but it could tear the country in two. Now that said, I had no idea that Antifa or QAnon were a thing until 2020.

 
commando said:
you do realize there really is a 2025 project?   right?  it's not fiction.
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Even if true, doesn't mean anything will succeed. I know plenty of people that vote Democrat or Republican that would not back it.  Back in the 90s I worked with dudes at a defense contractor that would talk about the new world order and very specific plans on how it would come to be. They would point to publications, talk about how we will all willingly give up our freedoms when things go south with a crisis (they might have something there), and even interpret the stinking symbols on the dollar bill. That was all supposed to happen before 2000. I think the only thing that happened was a gold buying pyramid scheme. The Amway of end of the world prepers. I bet if I found one of them now, they would tell me the pandemic was a planned dry run. I am still more concerned about external threats....although I am starting to believe we could just tear ourselves apart.

 
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