Gun choice

rawhide-jr said:
If you want target practice, 9mm...

If you want economy wit a little more punch, go .40 S&W

If you want the stopping power, carry a .45 Auto...
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Pretty good advice here from Rawhide-Jr. For target practice and home protection with stopping power you might also consider a .357 with a mid-length barrel (or longer). You can keep .357 shells handy for home protection, but fire cheaper aluminum case .38 rounds at the range.

If it’s only home protection you want then go with a short barrel shotgun with pump action. The sound of the pump action will send most intruders fleeing. (I would run if I heard that sound.)

 
Basically, what we have here is a failure to communication. Personal preference.

Springfield 1911 Operator nuff said. jimho

never owned a glockenspeil though so I can't say.

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kozzman555 said:
rawhide-jr said:
If you want target practice, 9mm...

If you want economy wit a little more punch, go .40 S&W

If you want the stopping power, carry a .45 Auto...

Think about it, what's so great about 9mm and .40? More ammo? How many bullets do you need? Are you planning on getting into a major gunfight? .40's aren't close in stopping power, I've seen that first hand. Also think of what kind of shooter you are... Those plastic Glocks and the like are very lightweight and unreliable, and can be a little harder to shoot due to the excessive recoil. If you have the money, invest in a 1911 .45, or the Sig P220 Elite... both can be a bit pricey, but I carry the Sig and swear by it. I also have an HK USP .45, which is quite possibly the AK 47 of handguns... extremely reliable, with a relatively high magazine capacity for a .45 Auto.
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really? have you ever shot a glock before, ever? i don't think so. i have extensively shot my 23 and there is little to no recoil compared to a .45. I have never had one jam and they are pretty much idiot proof. and how is the USP .45 the AK-47 of handguns? i could buy 5 AK's for the price of one USP. Not to mention the USP is probably more accurate than the AK (half joking). Do you even read what you write before posting? posts like that, which make no sense at all, really detract from any positive opinions that you might have. You might like the USP, but any weight which I'd give to your opinion went out the window when i read the rest of your post
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I own a Glock and it's a P.O.S. I happen to be relatively proficient with handguns. I've put over 15,000 rounds through my USP without a single jam or failure. My Sig P220 Elite is probably the best handgun I've ever shot, and is the closest thing to a 1911 my department will allow me to carry. The Springfield 1911 TRP Operator is the only step up from it, in my opinion.

As far as Glocks go, I don't know how many shootings you've heard of or been in, but I've seen them fail people in my department more than any other. I am one of the range masters in my department and I've seen, firsthand, the Glock fail, jam, stovepipe, and even saw one blow up in a guy's face. You can keep your Glock, and good luck with it... Hey, at least you can throw it in the dishwasher with the rest of your Tupperware...

Glocks are good only because they are cheap, hence being the most widely owned handgun in the USA... If you want cheap quality, buy a Springfield XD...

If you had half a brain, or were knowledgeable with firearms, you would've understood my joke about the HK... The HK is probably the most reliable handgun I've ever seen. It can withstand the elements, dirt, whatever, and still shoot. Try "Wikipedia" or wherever you learned about guns, and you'll probably figure it out...

As far as recoil goes, I was referring to the Glock .45 .... A lightweight gun + big round = Recoil. If I could simplify that for you and make a demonstration out of crayons and play-dough I would...

Off-topic... If you're going to talk sh#t to someone in a post, can you at least have enough respect for yourself to proof-read your posts? I feel like I just got lectured by a 12 year old on MySpace.

 
Good thing this is an internet discussion. All this "mines better then yours" I picture the shoot out at the OK corral and a bunch of dead HB members. :dumdum

 
nah

none of them can hit sh#t :laughpound

'cept me cause I run slow :)

GBR

glock vs etc

remington vs etc

usp vs etc

ford vs sh#t oh that is right there ain't know diff :box

 
Yeah, that's what I get for posting my opinion. Some a-hole jumps all over me, when nothing was remotely rude or directed toward him in any way... God bless internet tough guys...

 
rawhide-jr said:
kozzman555 said:
rawhide-jr said:
If you want target practice, 9mm...

If you want economy wit a little more punch, go .40 S&W

If you want the stopping power, carry a .45 Auto...

Think about it, what's so great about 9mm and .40? More ammo? How many bullets do you need? Are you planning on getting into a major gunfight? .40's aren't close in stopping power, I've seen that first hand. Also think of what kind of shooter you are... Those plastic Glocks and the like are very lightweight and unreliable, and can be a little harder to shoot due to the excessive recoil. If you have the money, invest in a 1911 .45, or the Sig P220 Elite... both can be a bit pricey, but I carry the Sig and swear by it. I also have an HK USP .45, which is quite possibly the AK 47 of handguns... extremely reliable, with a relatively high magazine capacity for a .45 Auto.
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really? have you ever shot a glock before, ever? i don't think so. i have extensively shot my 23 and there is little to no recoil compared to a .45. I have never had one jam and they are pretty much idiot proof. and how is the USP .45 the AK-47 of handguns? i could buy 5 AK's for the price of one USP. Not to mention the USP is probably more accurate than the AK (half joking). Do you even read what you write before posting? posts like that, which make no sense at all, really detract from any positive opinions that you might have. You might like the USP, but any weight which I'd give to your opinion went out the window when i read the rest of your post
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I own a Glock and it's a P.O.S. I happen to be relatively proficient with handguns. I've put over 15,000 rounds through my USP without a single jam or failure. My Sig P220 Elite is probably the best handgun I've ever shot, and is the closest thing to a 1911 my department will allow me to carry. The Springfield 1911 TRP Operator is the only step up from it, in my opinion.

As far as Glocks go, I don't know how many shootings you've heard of or been in, but I've seen them fail people in my department more than any other. I am one of the range masters in my department and I've seen, firsthand, the Glock fail, jam, stovepipe, and even saw one blow up in a guy's face. You can keep your Glock, and good luck with it... Hey, at least you can throw it in the dishwasher with the rest of your Tupperware...

Glocks are good only because they are cheap, hence being the most widely owned handgun in the USA... If you want cheap quality, buy a Springfield XD...

If you had half a brain, or were knowledgeable with firearms, you would've understood my joke about the HK... The HK is probably the most reliable handgun I've ever seen. It can withstand the elements, dirt, whatever, and still shoot. Try "Wikipedia" or wherever you learned about guns, and you'll probably figure it out...

As far as recoil goes, I was referring to the Glock .45 .... A lightweight gun + big round = Recoil. If I could simplify that for you and make a demonstration out of crayons and play-dough I would...

Off-topic... If you're going to talk sh#t to someone in a post, can you at least have enough respect for yourself to proof-read your posts? I feel like I just got lectured by a 12 year old on MySpace.
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First off, I never attacked you personally, just your post. Insinuating that that I am 12yo doesn't do anything to add to this duscussion. Second, if you really want to talk gun knowledge and being in firefights, I suggest YOU wiki the 75th Ranger Regiment, which is my Army unit. I would be willing to bet that I have been in more firefights, shot more people, shot more bullets, and been in combat/violent situations than you EVER will be as an LEO (which it sounds like you are). I don't think anyone should question my weapons knowledge or where I got it. If you have an opinion about a weapon that's all cool, but you should make your case in your post. Your first post was somewhat lacking in the details that you provided in your second post, which would have made the first post make more sense.

Also, as far as the Glock's on your range that misfired, jammed, blew up, etc, what condition were the weapons in? Did they clean them? Did they know what they were doing? Were they using incorrect ammunition? And no where did I say that the USP was an inferior weapon to the Glock. I simply stated what I felt were it's strengths. The USP is a great weapon. However, for the price and ease of using (i hate most safety's on sidearm's) I love the Glock and have never had a problem with it. As far as your joke goes, i believe myself and carlfense were attempting to figure it out a few posts above this quoted post of yours. As far as your comment about Glock's and recoil, I don't see why you would refer to a .45ACP Glock when I was discussing the merits of the .40S&W Glock, which is why I thought your post about recoil was crazy talk. Hell yes, .45 Glock's have a lot of recoil, I wouldn't dispute that, ever. Perhaps you should have made your initial post a little more clear. \

And finally, if I want to sh#t talk someone, it won't be on a Husker board. I see no reason to get all butthurt over this. If you are still feeling poopy about this, then all you have to do is wait until fall when I get back from my deployment and I'll be back in Omaha for two weeks and we can figure it out.

-Sincerely,

Internet Tough guy

 
Knock it off with the name calling and take it easy on the threats you two. I'm being serious by the way........... :rulez

Rawhide Jr, I've never had too many of those experiences with the Glock in my years in the business. I would say your armorers aren't doing their job correctly. The double-feeds could be something as simple as the guns not being clean or the shooter could be limp wristing the weapon? The stove-pipe may be from a faulty ejector or extractor. One actually blowing up....................that would be a serious malfunction with the Glock that would've been observed by the individual cleaning their weapon properly, or by the armorers not doing their job while looking for possible cracks in strategic places on the Glock. I'll really agree about the 1911 operator................bada$$ gun.

 
BIGREDIOWAN said:
Knock it off with the name calling and take it easy on the threats you two. I'm being serious by the way........... :rulez

Rawhide Jr, I've never had too many of those experiences with the Glock in my years in the business. I would say your armorers aren't doing their job correctly. The double-feeds could be something as simple as the guns not being clean or the shooter could be limp wristing the weapon? The stove-pipe may be from a faulty ejector or extractor. One actually blowing up....................that would be a serious malfunction with the Glock that would've been observed by the individual cleaning their weapon properly, or by the armorers not doing their job while looking for possible cracks in strategic places on the Glock. I'll really agree about the 1911 operator................bada$$ gun.
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Roger

BTW, what are you doing up this early?

 
kozzman555 said:
rawhide-jr said:
kozzman555 said:
rawhide-jr said:
If you want target practice, 9mm...

If you want economy wit a little more punch, go .40 S&W

If you want the stopping power, carry a .45 Auto...

Think about it, what's so great about 9mm and .40? More ammo? How many bullets do you need? Are you planning on getting into a major gunfight? .40's aren't close in stopping power, I've seen that first hand. Also think of what kind of shooter you are... Those plastic Glocks and the like are very lightweight and unreliable, and can be a little harder to shoot due to the excessive recoil. If you have the money, invest in a 1911 .45, or the Sig P220 Elite... both can be a bit pricey, but I carry the Sig and swear by it. I also have an HK USP .45, which is quite possibly the AK 47 of handguns... extremely reliable, with a relatively high magazine capacity for a .45 Auto.
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really? have you ever shot a glock before, ever? i don't think so. i have extensively shot my 23 and there is little to no recoil compared to a .45. I have never had one jam and they are pretty much idiot proof. and how is the USP .45 the AK-47 of handguns? i could buy 5 AK's for the price of one USP. Not to mention the USP is probably more accurate than the AK (half joking). Do you even read what you write before posting? posts like that, which make no sense at all, really detract from any positive opinions that you might have. You might like the USP, but any weight which I'd give to your opinion went out the window when i read the rest of your post
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I own a Glock and it's a P.O.S. I happen to be relatively proficient with handguns. I've put over 15,000 rounds through my USP without a single jam or failure. My Sig P220 Elite is probably the best handgun I've ever shot, and is the closest thing to a 1911 my department will allow me to carry. The Springfield 1911 TRP Operator is the only step up from it, in my opinion.

As far as Glocks go, I don't know how many shootings you've heard of or been in, but I've seen them fail people in my department more than any other. I am one of the range masters in my department and I've seen, firsthand, the Glock fail, jam, stovepipe, and even saw one blow up in a guy's face. You can keep your Glock, and good luck with it... Hey, at least you can throw it in the dishwasher with the rest of your Tupperware...

Glocks are good only because they are cheap, hence being the most widely owned handgun in the USA... If you want cheap quality, buy a Springfield XD...

If you had half a brain, or were knowledgeable with firearms, you would've understood my joke about the HK... The HK is probably the most reliable handgun I've ever seen. It can withstand the elements, dirt, whatever, and still shoot. Try "Wikipedia" or wherever you learned about guns, and you'll probably figure it out...

As far as recoil goes, I was referring to the Glock .45 .... A lightweight gun + big round = Recoil. If I could simplify that for you and make a demonstration out of crayons and play-dough I would...

Off-topic... If you're going to talk sh#t to someone in a post, can you at least have enough respect for yourself to proof-read your posts? I feel like I just got lectured by a 12 year old on MySpace.
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First off, I never attacked you personally, just your post. Insinuating that that I am 12yo doesn't do anything to add to this duscussion. Second, if you really want to talk gun knowledge and being in firefights, I suggest YOU wiki the 75th Ranger Regiment, which is my Army unit. I would be willing to bet that I have been in more firefights, shot more people, shot more bullets, and been in combat/violent situations than you EVER will be as an LEO (which it sounds like you are). I don't think anyone should question my weapons knowledge or where I got it. If you have an opinion about a weapon that's all cool, but you should make your case in your post. Your first post was somewhat lacking in the details that you provided in your second post, which would have made the first post make more sense.

Also, as far as the Glock's on your range that misfired, jammed, blew up, etc, what condition were the weapons in? Did they clean them? Did they know what they were doing? Were they using incorrect ammunition? And no where did I say that the USP was an inferior weapon to the Glock. I simply stated what I felt were it's strengths. The USP is a great weapon. However, for the price and ease of using (i hate most safety's on sidearm's) I love the Glock and have never had a problem with it. As far as your joke goes, i believe myself and carlfense were attempting to figure it out a few posts above this quoted post of yours. As far as your comment about Glock's and recoil, I don't see why you would refer to a .45ACP Glock when I was discussing the merits of the .40S&W Glock, which is why I thought your post about recoil was crazy talk. Hell yes, .45 Glock's have a lot of recoil, I wouldn't dispute that, ever. Perhaps you should have made your initial post a little more clear. \

And finally, if I want to sh#t talk someone, it won't be on a Husker board. I see no reason to get all butthurt over this. If you are still feeling poopy about this, then all you have to do is wait until fall when I get back from my deployment and I'll be back in Omaha for two weeks and we can figure it out.

-Sincerely,

Internet Tough guy
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Don't waste your time. I can already tell you're one of those "Ive been there and you haven't, man!" types. I'm not trying to ding you for your service, but most of us on here have donated portions of our lives to the military as well. I know what I'm doing, as you probably do, but you're basically calling me a moron for posting what I did...

Please don't take this the wrong way, but you have no idea what cops go through. I can't speak for the midwest, but here in So Cal, you might as well be in Iraq. The difference is, you can articulate shooting anyone over there or blowing anything up, and you have no liability. Here, people lay IED's, use high powered rifles to snipe us, and just about anything else you can think of, but we have to worry about the liability of it. The other difference is we don't have the hardware and armor you guys do. My back up is 1 hour away, while yours is walking next to you. I can't tell you how many times I've come under sniper fire here, but I can't just lay down suppressing fire because the d******d could be near kids or something else someone will throw me in prison for... and I have no gunship or arty to call to take care of it for me....

I can go on and on, but I'm willing to bet we're equal in experiences. Thank you for your service, and be safe.

 
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BIGREDIOWAN said:
I have no clue............... :lol: One of my boys started crying and haven't been able to fall back asleep since. NOT COOL! :bang
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I've always found that if you can' get someone to go back to sleep that if you put a pillow down on the floor of your car behind the driver's seat and drive down to the 7-11 for a slussy that by the time you get back home someone will be sound asleep. Course you may be a bit too big to fit into that spot, Bri, maybe you should try a couple shots of Brandy. :lol:

T_O_B

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I've always kept problem people away from the house with one of these:

Not only that but my sweet wife can be...

One Bad-A$$ Cat.

Just thought we needed a little levity guys.

Oh and by the way, "My daddy can beat up your daddy!"

T_O_B

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