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Have you ever looked at a map of the land given to Israel in 1947, and comparred it to present day Israel?
Why would Israel attack Iran?
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With that logic every attack/invasion can be justified as a preventive action... a slippery slope indeed.
Dose that justify Israel killing Palestinians, Lebanese and Iranians of their home soils?
Has that crossed a line, or is that line one-sided?
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Israel sould be allowed to exist peacefully within its pre-1967 borders, and be defended in doing so by the US/UN/NATO/GCC.
However its continued occupation of land beyond that and frequent attacks upon the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, Lebanon and Syria should be economically and militarily opposed by US/UN/NATO/GCC.
Cactusboy
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Cactusboy
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Of course it stays, but it should be inside the original borders w/ small land swaps or compensation made where needed. We should support them only if they obey law. How much we should support them is debatable I guess.
knapplc
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Israel's explanation for all of that is that they are responding, self-defense, etc. I see their point, but I agree with you that they go too far at times.
Cactusboy
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and that is 99% BS. Remember this big time...Israel lies. Choose ANY attack of theirs that was self defense and we can look at it in some detail and see if it really was SD.
2 big lies from the top of my head...
Israel says Hamas uses human shields...when in fact it's Israel that was found to have used them.
The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence for plans to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American and British-owned targets. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, "unspecified malcontents" or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone.[2] The operation caused no casualties, except for those members of the cell who committed suicide after being captured.
The operation became known as the Lavon Affair after the Israeli defense minister Pinhas Lavon, who was forced to resign because of the incident, or euphemistically as the Unfortunate Affair or The Bad Business (Hebrew: העסק ביש, HaEsek Bish or העסק הביש, HaEsek HaBish). After being denied for 51 years, the surviving agents were in 2005 officially honored with a certificate of appreciation by the Israeli President Moshe Katzav.[3]
http://en.wikipedia....ki/Lavon_Affair
remember when I said if you do just the minimal research you'll start having many "WTF" moments?
I wonder why this HUGE event is never mentioned in the media...
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I do not put much credence in that explanation. You are not legitimately defending yourself when you are occupying another people's land, preventing them from forming their own nation, occassionaly invading them, frequently embarking on military missions on their land, blockading them into an open-air concentration camp, and imprisoning thousands of their civilians without charge.
Cactusboy
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Exactly...the Arabs are resisting and illegal and brutal occupation. ANY group in the world past or present would resist it.
Cactusboy
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there is a reason...they want their land. They have wanted it from day one and their leaders were very adamant that they would one day have it all.
Arabs were the large majority before zionism...but Jews lived there too...and they got along fine. It wasn't until zionism..when thousands of Jews started pouring in that there we clashes.
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Cactusboy
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it's nothing close to 50/50. That's what Israel wants us to believe..that way we just throw our hands up and do nothing to stop it.