Harris's VP Pick

Who should Kamala Harris pick as her VP?

  • Andy Beshear Gov Ky

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Mark Kelly - Az Senator

    Votes: 3 25.0%

  • Josh Shapiro Pa Gov

    Votes: 6 50.0%

  • Gretchen Whitmer Mich Gov

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • JB Pritzker Ill Gov

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Gavin Newsom Ca Gov

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Roy Cooper NC Gov

    Votes: 1 8.3%

  • Pete Buttigieg Sec of Transportation

    Votes: 2 16.7%

  • Wes Moore Maryland Gov

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    12
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Assumption:  Kamala Harris is the Dem nominee which is all but certain at this point.  A lot of names are being thought of who could balance out the Harris ticket.   Who do you think it should be and why?

I have listed 9 names and an 'other' choice in the poll. 

 
I personally would like Ky  Gov Andy Beshear - he is a good communicator and a man of great compassion and is popular in his deep red state.  However, strategically, I went with Roy Cooper, Gov of NC.  I think Ky will vote for the felon regardless, but Pa and NC could determine the outcome.   I'm tossed between Shapiro and Cooper.  I went with Cooper because I think Harris will hold the Biden win in Pa from 2020.  Trump barely won NC in 2020 and with the popular NC governor on the ticket, I think Harris can win that state and that could ultimately be the difference if she flips it to blue.  

 
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My top three are Beshear, Kelly or Shapiro.

I'll go with Shapiro.

I've been a fan of Newsome.  He would absolutely destroy Vance in a debate.  However, I think there's too much baggage with him and bills he's signed into law in California.  Many people blame him for the high cost of living there.

I like Pete. But, I also like him in his current position.

 
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It'll almost certainly be Shapiro. I saw today that Harris can win without Arizona, but she cannot win without Pennsylvania. 

 
knapplc said:
It'll almost certainly be Shapiro. I saw today that Harris can win without Arizona, but she cannot win without Pennsylvania. 
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I made the assumption that she will hold Pa - thus my vote for Cooper.  I may be overconfident in that assumption however.  If it is squeaky close, then Shapiro is the right choice and a NC win is just a cherry on top. 

 
Strategically, I prefer Shapiro or Cooper. Personally, I prefer Buttigieg, so I voted for him.

Also, I just learned that the 12th Amendment pretty much precludes Newsom from filling the VP role in this instance (plus I think he's saving himself for a presidential run in 2028). It states that the presidential and vice-presidential candidate on the same ticket can't both reside in the same state as where the electors reside. Well, they can technically, but it would null and void the electoral votes from that state. And the D's definitely can't afford that net -54 in their vote column.

https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-12/

 
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schriznoeder said:
Also, I just learned that the 12th Amendment pretty much precludes Newsom from filling the VP role in this instance (plus I think he's saving himself for a presidential run in 2028
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Why would his reasoning be waiting for 2028?   Is he expecting Kamala to lose in 2024?  Or is he expecting Kamala to win and just be awful as a President and run against her when she would be an incumbent? 

 
Archy1221 said:
Why would his reasoning be waiting for 2028?   Is he expecting Kamala to lose in 2024?  Or is he expecting Kamala to win and just be awful as a President and run against her when she would be an incumbent? 
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I probably should have said 2028/2032. If Harris wins and doesn't seek reelection, then Newsom throws his name in the hat in 2028. If Harris wins and does seek reelection, then Newsom waits until 2032. 

 
Archy1221 said:
Why would his reasoning be waiting for 2028?   Is he expecting Kamala to lose in 2024?  Or is he expecting Kamala to win and just be awful as a President and run against her when she would be an incumbent? 
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I think there were a lot of Dems caught flatfooted here.  If Biden had said in Oct of last year, that he was going to be that promised transitional President and serve only one term, then I think we would have seen Whitmer, Newsom and several others on this list running and vetting themselves in a full primary season.  Now, I think some are wondering if their opportunity is 8 years away --  my pure speculation based on nothing but trying to put myself in their shoes.  If Harris wins and does well -then she has the power of the incumbent. If she wins now and does terrible - most likely she runs again and will be running against a charged up GOP voting block after 8 years of Biden/Harris.  Not sure Newsom, etc want to be the sacrificial lamb during 2028 if Harris governs poorly.   It might be like Ted Kennedy running against Carter in 1980.

 
schriznoeder said:
Strategically, I prefer Shapiro or Cooper. Personally, I prefer Buttigieg, so I voted for him.

Also, I just learned that the 12th Amendment pretty much precludes Newsom from filling the VP role in this instance (plus I think he's saving himself for a presidential run in 2028). It states that the presidential and vice-presidential candidate on the same ticket can't both reside in the same state as where the electors reside. Well, they can technically, but it would null and void the electoral votes from that state. And the D's definitely can't afford that net -54 in their vote column.

https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-12/
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Was this rule created in the 18th century because the states rights people didn’t want one of the states’ perspectives to dominate?

I can’t think of any other logic. 

 
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