huskerjock

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I recently issued a second warning to huskerjock, and suspended his account for 7 days. You can read about it in our list of warnings in Eric's post HERE.

Looking at his history, it appears his first warning came from Mike, for attacking a Mod. The second warning was for calling a poster who challenged the logic of one of his opinions a "jacka$$".

We have since received two emails from him. Here's the first:

Ummmm since when did i get a first notice of my oh how did you put it "Offensive Remarks"? I believe that this is my first e-mail ever about this. If I would've had got an e-mail about this in the past I wouldn've stopped. So temporary ban me.....I don't care.....some people on that board will make anybody look like a dumbass and they have to be pricks about certain subjects. So I just got feed up with all that bullsh#t and decided to approach them in another way. So if you're banning then I believe there are others who would fit this description as well. I'll see you all back Dec 4th or even sooner. GO BIG RED #1 fan for life...........
Well, apparently he did care - he then followed it up with this email:

I've noticed that I had just received an e-mail from Huskerboard informing me that I was Temporary Banned from the Message board and that this was my second offense. I would like to let you all know that I didn't even now that I had a first offense....news too me. Honestly I didn't know that "Smartass" was that bad to be said or used on the board and I'm sorry but not to be an a$$ but whats the difference with typing a word like smartass and posting the 'Asshat' icon, aren't they the same thing???? IMO I don't think smartass is that bad of a word, it's by far cleaner then the f-bomb, s-word, b-word, and so forth. I'm not sorry for what I did because I don''t think that I did anything wrong, I more or less stated my opinion and someone wanted to point out that I didn't know what I was talking about and to get my facts straight. When people post their opinions they necessary don't need to point out facts, am I right or am I wrong. I check my e-mail everyday and the only thing that i've received in my inbox here at yahoo is e-mails from Huskerboard when somebody has sent me a personal e-mail as you guys put it at Huskerboard. So I will learn from this and to use 'Icons' instead of words next time and if I would've recieve my first offense by e-mail, I don't think none of this would've happened.

I will be back Dec 4th, 07 at 11:30 pm or sooner if you guys decide that I've learned my lesson. I joined on October 17 and I browse at Huskerboard.com everyday as I use it a lot. I've already past 190 post which is good for only being a member for a month. I'm a noob to message boards but I'm not new to this noob talk for I play Socom online and we call beginners 'Noobs'. I love husker football with a passion and thats why I joined huskerboard to express my opionins with other member not to get harrassed or make a fool out of what I have posted. Take this for whatever its worth, I'll be back posting more of my opinions on Husker football topics. GO BIG RED and Thank you for your time
I haven't decided whether to respond - regardless, when he returns, please keep an eye out for his posts. This appears to be a kid that can't keep his temper in check. Thanks.

 
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I decided to reply, especially when I reviewed his posts and noted that his first violation was to attack Dave. Below is my email response.

Brett, I wanted to address the issues you raised in your email.
>> I've noticed that I had just received an e-mail from Huskerboard informing me that I was Temporary Banned from the Message board and that this was my second offense. I would like to let you all know that I didn't even now that I had a first offense....news too me.<<

When you signed up you were presented with a screen that set out the board rules, and when you click the Agree button, you contractually agreed to abide by the rules. The link to the rules are found near the top of the board, and in many of the Mods’ and Admins’ signatures. In other words, the lack of an email is irrelevant to the issue. In your first violation, you attacked a Moderator, DaveH. Another Moderator, HSKRNOKC, locked the thread and specifically stated he did so because of name calling. In response, you stated, “And if they boot me off this oh well i can create another e-mail and so for.”

>>Honestly I didn't know that "Smartass" was that bad to be said or used on the board and I'm sorry but not to be an a$$ but whats the difference with typing a word like smartass and posting the 'Asshat' icon, aren't they the same thing???? IMO I don't think smartass is that bad of a word, it's by far cleaner then the f-bomb, s-word, b-word, and so forth.<<

Actually, the term you used was jacka$$. And regardless whether you think it’s offensive, it violates the board’s rule – rules to which you agreed to abide. As for the icon, as I posted in response to another member after your temporary suspension, it seems that flame wars arise far more quickly at the use of words rather than icons. The intent of the rules is to stop flame wars before they begin. Over the years, we’ve found that the icon does not cause us nearly the problems that words do. If it does begin to do so, we’ll remove it.

>> I'm not sorry for what I did because I don''t think that I did anything wrong, I more or less stated my opinion and someone wanted to point out that I didn't know what I was talking about and to get my facts straight. When people post their opinions they necessary don't need to point out facts, am I right or am I wrong.<<

Two points need to be made here. First, we ask that members attack the post, not the poster. To attack the post, it is inherent that one dispute the facts asserted by the first poster. It is hardly uncommon for posters to say to someone with whom they disagree to “get their facts straight” and then to post counter-facts. That’s attacking the post, and not the poster. Could they do the same thing without the phrase “get your facts straight”? Yes – but that’s hardly a personal attack so much as it is a challenge to any facts alleged.

Second, in your first violation, you attacked a Moderator, DaveH. In response to a member warning you of what you had done, you stated, “And if they boot me off this oh well i can create another e-mail and so for.” In your email to me in response to my email informing you of your temporary suspension, you stated, “So temporary ban me.....I don't care.....some people on that board will make anybody look like a dumbass and they have to be pricks about certain subjects.”

Almost from the moment you’ve joined, you’ve engaged in personal attacks. On a number of occasions, we let them slide. When we finally enforced the rules, you essentially stated that you would break the rules again by creating a second account - which is expressly forbidden by the rules – and that you didn’t care what actions were taken. That clearly implies that you either cannot or will not follow the rules.

Given all of those facts, I find it hard to believe that you’ve “learned your lesson”. However, even if I did believe that, I would not lift the suspension. The reason is that doing so would essentially permit members to violate the rules without any penalty – which in turn would have the effect of rendering the rules moot. Any poster could violate the rules, say they have learned their lesson or apologize, and have their posting history cleared – and we use that history to determine whether a permanent ban or other punishment is warranted.

When your suspension is over – and assuming you decide to post again to the Board – you’ll be welcomed back. All we ask is that you read and follow the rules.

AR Husker Fan
 
I received another email from huskerjock, which I've pasted below. While he still states he doesn't feel he did anything wrong, and tries to justify his actions, he nevertheless seems to be genuinely willing to behave. I told him the ban remains, but at his request, I've changed his memeber status to Guest so that he can view - but not post to - the Board. I think that will help encourage him a bit to follow the rules.

At this time I would like to thank you for responding to my e-mail, I was kindof wondering whether I would hear from you. To be honest with you, I was going to create another account yesterday but decided not to because I went and ready your board rules. I noticed that if I had created my new account that my new account would have been banned forever and my old account would be banned twice as long, so I didn't want that to happen. My other e-mail address is humpday45@yahoo.com and I would've used The Pipeline or something like that as my user name, just to let you know. That first e-mail that I sent you, I was so heated and pissed my words had spoken before I had time to think. So thats why I had written you that second e-mail because I had time to cool off and re-think this whole situation. Did I say jacka$$ to DaveH.....I believe that I did but I can't remember because I have posted like 190 post in a month....thats a lot for me. I'm still new to message boards and this is my very first one and I have to get to know the rules better in which I'm still trying to figure out how to post videos on there without posting the webpage of that certain video. Not to play the blame game or I don't like this guy but I have problems with two people on that message board which are DaveH and DJR313 for the fact that IMO most of everything that they write is sarcastic crap and in my eyes they have to make fun of people in their own little words of sarcasism....but they aren't the ones in the dog house, I am. I don't want you to think that since I'm in the dog house that I want to point my finger out and say "Well look at these or those guys bla bla bla." I don't want that. I'm not a smart man where I use dictionary words to make fun of people so there's times where I read other peoples post that I think they are trying to make fun of that poster in which they might not be....who knows.

Have you noticed all the hostility lately in the past few weeks on the board? I just got sick of people getting bashed and made a fool out of so I decided to end it or make a point of it with my irresponsible actions. My dad has always told me to treat people the way that you want to be treated and I know that what I did is totally different from this quote but I felt that he was stating that I didn't know what I was talking about. What really got me from his reply was read was capitalized (READ) like he was stating I didn't know what I was talking about, can you kindof see where I was coming from? I don't want this board to turn out to be another tigerdropping board cause that one is even worse, it's terrible. So my actions got me banned for 7 days but I still don't think that I did anything wrong....I don't think that smartass is a bad word but I do see where you're coming from, from all of the flaming. Flaming is new to me as I'm sure there are other words used on the board that i'm not aware of.

I will take full responsibility of my actions and be a man about this and learn from it. When you allow me back into your Message Board I will make a full apology for my actions to everybody because of a DIE HARD HUSKER fan, I should be representing "The best College Football Fans in the Country" in which I live by. Last night when my g/f and I went out to Olive Garden, I was thinking about this whole thing and I was embarrassed to tell her what had happened because I need to develope thicker skin and to ignore certain people. And I'm 110% guarented that if I would've had a first informal (e-mail) of my actions on DaveH about using language that I would've stopped....I'm guarentee it. Reading your e-mail I didn't know that HSKRNOKC had locked it for I don't always look back at my previous post or threads. Yesterday was a total shock and if somebody tells me not to do it again, I won't do it again.

If you check out my myspace account you might understand that I'm a guy who loves to have fun and joke around. I hate people talk trash about other people and making fun of people....i've never been fond of people doing that. My myspace is www.myspace.com/gobigred4ever but I do appreciate your time again and I'll see you all when I'm allowed back. PS Who are you rooting for Head Coach at Nebraska and is there a way that you can sign my name out so I can still look at peoples post on the message board?
 
Geeze has this guy ever heard of spacing it out.

It hurts my eyes just looking at that sh#t.

 
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