JGS30 Big 12 Predictions

[BeachBuffs]

What I can gather about reading this thread is that really no one in the north is afraid of anyone else in the north, meaning that there really is no consensus stud of the division. NU fans believe that they can win the north, KU fans believe they can win the north, MU fans believe they can win the north, I believe CU can win the north, and Cy believes ISU is guranteed to win the Big 12. The only ones alone in the dark appear to be KSU people...lol

I hate to tell you this, but KU or NU is winnin' the North. I say 80% or better it is one of those 2 teams...

Perhaps but I take into account the schedule as well as recent matchups over the last few years. Don't get me wrong I believe Kansas has a good team but let's look at your schedule:

ISU-W

at CU-L

OU-L

at Tech-L

at KSU-W

NU-W

at UT-L

MU-W

That gives you a conference record of 4-4, now let me argue my points before you start chastising me. CU has played KU tough over the last few years with a talent disparity, CU is better this year if they are healthy, the game is in Boulder if it was in Lawrence I would reverse my pick(so it is not a homer pick). OU at home, you might play them tough and hope for an OU letdown but odds are against it, OU wins. At Tech, now this one I am willing to concede and flip flop but I do think the Raiders will have another QB that can throw for 400 yards and other receivers that will step up and catch footballs. I give you Nebraska even at this risk of being flamed since this is their board. At Texas, let's face it, even if the game is close and winnable, something will happen that causes you to go down in flames. Mizzou I will give you. Even if I reverse the Tech game that is still 5-3.

Nebraska:

at Mizzou-L

Tech-W

ISU-W

at Baylor-W

OU-L

at KU-L

KSU-W

at CU-L

So here comes the flames...lol At Mizzou, Mizzou loves to beat NU and they get to catch them early in the season when the only team they faced was Va Tech. OU at home will be generating a lot of buzz about the old times, but this isn't the old times, OU wins. At Kansas, already gave KU the nod. At CU, it took a miracle kick last year at home for NU to win against a decimated CU team, assuming that CU is healthy and considering that neither team is putting up long winning streaks against the other anymore, I pick CU.

4-4

Colorado:

Texas-L

KU-W

at KSU-W

Mizzou-L

A&M-W

at ISU-W

at OSU-L

NU-W

5-3 but since I am a CU guy, let's toss one win out and now we are 4-4 as well, remember I said a multi tie in the division, where I think at least 2 if not 3 teams might be split? Certainly I am no more qualified to pick these games then anyone else here and I have not flamed anyone so my post is reasonable for this site

CU over KU and NU!?! LOL. Wow. Now that's delusional! :clap Unless I missed something and Hawkins has put in a high flying attack, scoring 60 plus a game.....but I highly doubt that's the case.

Before you personally attack me at least tell me how I am being delusional? I stated the evidence, even last year in Lawrence, CU was in the game with KU and CU is better and healthier at this point then they were last year. Second, do you deny that it took a monumental kick last year for Nebraska to beat CU in Lincoln? If Henry misses the kick we are taking knees, game set and match. Now I understand that you guys believe you are better then last year as well as I believe we are better, so I do not believe it to be delusional on my part to pick the home team in both of those matchups. I gave Mizzou the nod over us because quite honestly they have embarrassed the hell out of us the last few years, niether KU or NU has done that. I may be picking wrong, to be say that I am delusional without any evidence to back up that claim is shallow on your part.

 

[Scarlet Overkill]

That's why they play the games. I am among the few that believes CU will be much better this year, and they have all three of the other North contenders at home.

I can't dispute anyone's rankings at this point since I haven't even seen a single game yet. Anything can happen this season.

 

[caveman99]

CU over KU and NU!?! LOL. Wow. Now that's delusional! :clap Unless I missed something and Hawkins has put in a high flying attack, scoring 60 plus a game.....but I highly doubt that's the case.

Before you personally attack me at least tell me how I am being delusional? I stated the evidence, even last year in Lawrence, CU was in the game with KU and CU is better and healthier at this point then they were last year. Second, do you deny that it took a monumental kick last year for Nebraska to beat CU in Lincoln? If Henry misses the kick we are taking knees, game set and match. Now I understand that you guys believe you are better then last year as well as I believe we are better, so I do not believe it to be delusional on my part to pick the home team in both of those matchups. I gave Mizzou the nod over us because quite honestly they have embarrassed the hell out of us the last few years, niether KU or NU has done that. I may be picking wrong, to be say that I am delusional without any evidence to back up that claim is shallow on your part.

beachbuffs, I agree the game for NU in Boulder could be tough. It always seems that more often than not, that game is tough. I also get what you are saying about the Henery kick. However I think you are a bit off if you think those two teams were as closely matched as the score would indicate. NU outgained CU 407 to 291. NU held the ball for over 39 minutes, CU had just 20 minutes of TOP. CU only scored a single TD in the second half, and didn't score at all in the 4th QTR. If it weren't for a botched fake fg and a blown coverage, CU isn't in the game. That game is a great example of just why they play the games. NU clearly had better talent on the field all over, but mentally CU played a better game. However to assume that NU will make that many mistakes again to help close the talent gap would be a stretch. Could it happen? Absolutely, but I don't see it.

 

[knapplc]

beachbuffs, I agree the game for NU in Boulder could be tough. It always seems that more often than not, that game is tough. I also get what you are saying about the Henery kick. However I think you are a bit off if you think those two teams were as closely matched as the score would indicate. NU outgained CU 407 to 291. NU held the ball for over 39 minutes, CU had just 20 minutes of TOP. CU only scored a single TD in the second half, and didn't score at all in the 4th QTR. If it weren't for a botched fake fg and a blown coverage, CU isn't in the game. That game is a great example of just why they play the games. NU clearly had better talent on the field all over, but mentally CU played a better game. However to assume that NU will make that many mistakes again to help close the talent gap would be a stretch. Could it happen? Absolutely, but I don't see it.

This is a pretty good rundown of what happened in that game. CU Fans seem to want to forget everything that happened up to Henery's kick, pointing solely at the scoreboard and claiming they're as good, if not better, than us. Had Henery's kick sailed wide right and CU ran out the clock for the win last year I would be no less confident that we will win in Boulder this year. We gave them 14 points on boneheaded plays last year.

Without Henery's miracle kick we don't win. But without that foolish fake field goal and the boneheaded mistake on coverage, the game isn't even close to that situation.

 

[fro daddy]

That's why they play the games. I am among the few that believes CU will be much better this year, and they have all three of the other North contenders at home.

I can't dispute anyone's rankings at this point since I haven't even seen a single game yet. Anything can happen this season.

I love the pic. That is a MU fav. "yippie!!"

 

[Scarlet Overkill]

That's why they play the games. I am among the few that believes CU will be much better this year, and they have all three of the other North contenders at home.

I can't dispute anyone's rankings at this point since I haven't even seen a single game yet. Anything can happen this season.

I love the pic. That is a MU fav. "yippie!!"

I did that just for you, Fro!

I actually saw it on the KU version of "Barking Carnival" yesterday and had to have it.

 

[BeachBuffs]

Very good points and I cannot refute them and if the game was in Lincoln my pick would be reversed. Rest assured I am not going out on putting my mortage on the line for any of these picks but I do look at recent history as well as the talent level for all these teams and I just happen to suscribe to a theory that I believe the winner of the north will be settled by our goofy Big 12 tiebreaking mechanism. I believe that out of the potential conference schedules, Colorado clearly has the softest, I think we can agree on the point. Our toughest road games are games where pretty much any of us in the North will not be favored, Texas and Oklahoma State. Our tough North games are all at home, granted Folsom is not Memorial or the Collesium but Vegas typically gives us 3 points....lol

 

[caveman99]

Very good points and I cannot refute them and if the game was in Lincoln my pick would be reversed. Rest assured I am not going out on putting my mortage on the line for any of these picks but I do look at recent history as well as the talent level for all these teams and I just happen to suscribe to a theory that I believe the winner of the north will be settled by our goofy Big 12 tiebreaking mechanism. I believe that out of the potential conference schedules, Colorado clearly has the softest, I think we can agree on the point. Our toughest road games are games where pretty much any of us in the North will not be favored, Texas and Oklahoma State. Our tough North games are all at home, granted Folsom is not Memorial or the Collesium but Vegas typically gives us 3 points....lol

CU definately has the best schedule, no doubt.

 

[jayhawk]

What I can gather about reading this thread is that really no one in the north is afraid of anyone else in the north, meaning that there really is no consensus stud of the division. NU fans believe that they can win the north, KU fans believe they can win the north, MU fans believe they can win the north, I believe CU can win the north, and Cy believes ISU is guranteed to win the Big 12. The only ones alone in the dark appear to be KSU people...lol

I hate to tell you this, but KU or NU is winnin' the North. I say 80% or better it is one of those 2 teams...

Perhaps but I take into account the schedule as well as recent matchups over the last few years. Don't get me wrong I believe Kansas has a good team but let's look at your schedule:

ISU-W

at CU-L

OU-L

at Tech-L

at KSU-W

NU-W

at UT-L

MU-W

That gives you a conference record of 4-4, now let me argue my points before you start chastising me. CU has played KU tough over the last few years with a talent disparity, CU is better this year if they are healthy, the game is in Boulder if it was in Lawrence I would reverse my pick(so it is not a homer pick). OU at home, you might play them tough and hope for an OU letdown but odds are against it, OU wins. At Tech, now this one I am willing to concede and flip flop but I do think the Raiders will have another QB that can throw for 400 yards and other receivers that will step up and catch footballs. I give you Nebraska even at this risk of being flamed since this is their board. At Texas, let's face it, even if the game is close and winnable, something will happen that causes you to go down in flames. Mizzou I will give you. Even if I reverse the Tech game that is still 5-3.

Nebraska:

at Mizzou-L

Tech-W

ISU-W

at Baylor-W

OU-L

at KU-L

KSU-W

at CU-L

So here comes the flames...lol At Mizzou, Mizzou loves to beat NU and they get to catch them early in the season when the only team they faced was Va Tech. OU at home will be generating a lot of buzz about the old times, but this isn't the old times, OU wins. At Kansas, already gave KU the nod. At CU, it took a miracle kick last year at home for NU to win against a decimated CU team, assuming that CU is healthy and considering that neither team is putting up long winning streaks against the other anymore, I pick CU.

4-4

Colorado:

Texas-L

KU-W

at KSU-W

Mizzou-L

A&M-W

at ISU-W

at OSU-L

NU-W

5-3 but since I am a CU guy, let's toss one win out and now we are 4-4 as well, remember I said a multi tie in the division, where I think at least 2 if not 3 teams might be split? Certainly I am no more qualified to pick these games then anyone else here and I have not flamed anyone so my post is reasonable for this site

Going to Boulder is no gimmee, but we will be the better team. That means we probably can win that... No gaurantees, but we have won the last 3. I like our chances, but take nothing for granted. When I look at your team, it was not that good the last few years and you are not loving it at QB. I like D-Hawk, but he winning only 35% of his games and won 2 conference games last year. I am not feeling your 5-3... Granted you lost in a close one to NU and should beat A&M (but it is telling tha you didn't). That is a lot of improving... Best of luck though, that is why we play the games.

 

[Drowning_in_the_Sea_of_Red]

I worry much more about Mizery than I do any of the other North teams.

Really?

Remember how Mizzou was with Pinkel before Chase Daniel and their offense specially made for him by their offensive coordinator(who is also gone)?

I mean, they might end up being decent, but until I see them prove they can sustain their recent success... Pinkel is still Pinkel to me.

brad smith burned nebraska before daniel.

just saying.

Ok ya got me there. He did get us a couple of times.

With the same offense as they run now...

Is that the same offense that put up a whopping 3 points against a 5-6 Nebraska team in '04?

Look, all I'm saying is that I'm not going to lose any sleep over Mizzou until they give me a reason to worry. Maybe I could have said it in a less condescending way...

nope. they went to that offense in 05. you know the one that has but up a whopping 41, 20, 41 & 52.

No hard feelings. I understand what your saying. Its the samething all the MU fans are saying about Nebraska. Nothing has been done to prove that the outcome of this years game will be any different then they have been lately. We will all know here pretty soon what we are working with

Haha. Good form, fro.

So, since we're not afraid of each other, I think it's safe to say that we'll be witnessing a pillow fight when the two teams meet... :lol:

 

[fro daddy]

I worry much more about Mizery than I do any of the other North teams.

Really?

Remember how Mizzou was with Pinkel before Chase Daniel and their offense specially made for him by their offensive coordinator(who is also gone)?

I mean, they might end up being decent, but until I see them prove they can sustain their recent success... Pinkel is still Pinkel to me.

brad smith burned nebraska before daniel.

just saying.

Ok ya got me there. He did get us a couple of times.

With the same offense as they run now...

Is that the same offense that put up a whopping 3 points against a 5-6 Nebraska team in '04?

Look, all I'm saying is that I'm not going to lose any sleep over Mizzou until they give me a reason to worry. Maybe I could have said it in a less condescending way...

nope. they went to that offense in 05. you know the one that has but up a whopping 41, 20, 41 & 52.

No hard feelings. I understand what your saying. Its the samething all the MU fans are saying about Nebraska. Nothing has been done to prove that the outcome of this years game will be any different then they have been lately. We will all know here pretty soon what we are working with

Haha. Good form, fro.

So, since we're not afraid of each other, I think it's safe to say that we'll be witnessing a pillow fight when the two teams meet... :lol:

If your talking about the volleyball or womens soccer teams then I would watch that. Nothing like a good ol' fashion pillow fight.

Is there a sleep over involved? :clap

 

[JGS30]

What I can gather about reading this thread is that really no one in the north is afraid of anyone else in the north, meaning that there really is no consensus stud of the division. NU fans believe that they can win the north, KU fans believe they can win the north, MU fans believe they can win the north, I believe CU can win the north, and Cy believes ISU is guranteed to win the Big 12. The only ones alone in the dark appear to be KSU people...lol

I hate to tell you this, but KU or NU is winnin' the North. I say 80% or better it is one of those 2 teams...

Perhaps but I take into account the schedule as well as recent matchups over the last few years. Don't get me wrong I believe Kansas has a good team but let's look at your schedule:

ISU-W

at CU-L

OU-L

at Tech-L

at KSU-W

NU-W

at UT-L

MU-W

That gives you a conference record of 4-4, now let me argue my points before you start chastising me. CU has played KU tough over the last few years with a talent disparity, CU is better this year if they are healthy, the game is in Boulder if it was in Lawrence I would reverse my pick(so it is not a homer pick). OU at home, you might play them tough and hope for an OU letdown but odds are against it, OU wins. At Tech, now this one I am willing to concede and flip flop but I do think the Raiders will have another QB that can throw for 400 yards and other receivers that will step up and catch footballs. I give you Nebraska even at this risk of being flamed since this is their board. At Texas, let's face it, even if the game is close and winnable, something will happen that causes you to go down in flames. Mizzou I will give you. Even if I reverse the Tech game that is still 5-3.

Nebraska:

at Mizzou-L

Tech-W

ISU-W

at Baylor-W

OU-L

at KU-L

KSU-W

at CU-L

So here comes the flames...lol At Mizzou, Mizzou loves to beat NU and they get to catch them early in the season when the only team they faced was Va Tech. OU at home will be generating a lot of buzz about the old times, but this isn't the old times, OU wins. At Kansas, already gave KU the nod. At CU, it took a miracle kick last year at home for NU to win against a decimated CU team, assuming that CU is healthy and considering that neither team is putting up long winning streaks against the other anymore, I pick CU.

4-4

Colorado:

Texas-L

KU-W

at KSU-W

Mizzou-L

A&M-W

at ISU-W

at OSU-L

NU-W

5-3 but since I am a CU guy, let's toss one win out and now we are 4-4 as well, remember I said a multi tie in the division, where I think at least 2 if not 3 teams might be split? Certainly I am no more qualified to pick these games then anyone else here and I have not flamed anyone so my post is reasonable for this site

CU over KU and NU!?! LOL. Wow. Now that's delusional! :clap Unless I missed something and Hawkins has put in a high flying attack, scoring 60 plus a game.....but I highly doubt that's the case.

Before you personally attack me at least tell me how I am being delusional? I stated the evidence, even last year in Lawrence, CU was in the game with KU and CU is better and healthier at this point then they were last year. Second, do you deny that it took a monumental kick last year for Nebraska to beat CU in Lincoln? If Henry misses the kick we are taking knees, game set and match. Now I understand that you guys believe you are better then last year as well as I believe we are better, so I do not believe it to be delusional on my part to pick the home team in both of those matchups. I gave Mizzou the nod over us because quite honestly they have embarrassed the hell out of us the last few years, niether KU or NU has done that. I may be picking wrong, to be say that I am delusional without any evidence to back up that claim is shallow on your part.

For starters, i didn't personally attack you. Thinking your Buffs will beat both KU and NU is very delusional. Why. Let's begin. For starters, you don't even know who your QB is going to be!!! Neither of these guys have shown any potential of being consistent as a starter. The second reason I think you're off on this is because if you remember the KU/CU game last year then you would recall how KU controlled the game from start to finish. Now, If my memory serves me....without looking it up here...KU won by 17 points? Something like that. However, the game was never in doubt for KU and I remember all of us going into halftime feeling really comfortable, even though the score was close. KU dominated both sides of the ball from start to finish.

You have some pretty high hopes for a team that has yet to settle on a proven QB and a coach going into year 4 that has yet to prove ANY consistency in this conference. Plus you had a losing record last year and didn't go to a bowl. I would lower my expectations if I were you. Don't get mad at me, I have CU finishing 3rd in the North. That's a good step for CU.

 

[JGS30]

Double post.

 

[admo]

CU over KU and NU!?! LOL. Wow. Now that's delusional! :clap Unless I missed something and Hawkins has put in a high flying attack, scoring 60 plus a game.....but I highly doubt that's the case.

Before you personally attack me at least tell me how I am being delusional? I stated the evidence, even last year in Lawrence, CU was in the game with KU and CU is better and healthier at this point then they were last year. Second, do you deny that it took a monumental kick last year for Nebraska to beat CU in Lincoln? If Henry misses the kick we are taking knees, game set and match. Now I understand that you guys believe you are better then last year as well as I believe we are better, so I do not believe it to be delusional on my part to pick the home team in both of those matchups. I gave Mizzou the nod over us because quite honestly they have embarrassed the hell out of us the last few years, niether KU or NU has done that. I may be picking wrong, to be say that I am delusional without any evidence to back up that claim is shallow on your part.

For starters, i didn't personally attack you. Thinking your Buffs will beat both KU and NU is very delusional. Why. Let's begin. For starters, you don't even know who your QB is going to be!!! Neither of these guys have shown any potential of being consistent as a starter. The second reason I think you're off on this is because if you remember the KU/CU game last year then you would recall how KU controlled the game from start to finish. Now, If my memory serves me....without looking it up here...KU won by 17 points? Something like that. However, the game was never in doubt for KU and I remember all of us going into halftime feeling really comfortable, even though the score was close. KU dominated both sides of the ball from start to finish.

You have some pretty high hopes for a team that has yet to settle on a proven QB and a coach going into year 4 that has yet to prove ANY consistency in this conference. Plus you had a losing record last year and didn't go to a bowl. I would lower my expectations if I were you. Don't get mad at me, I have CU finishing 3rd in the North. That's a good step for CU.

Come on dawg, BB has every right to be a fan of his Buffs as you do about your Hawks. Its not delusional for a fan to support his team to possibly win the North Division. Especially when the division winner might lose 3 games. There's not much, if any separation in the North.

OU and UT are clearly the top teams in the Conference. In our division, I see no problem with us picking the Huskers, Beach Buffs picking CU, you and Jayhawk picking KU, and Fro Daddyo picking MU. Hell even TuffTiger wishes they had corn to ride a pickle.

So lets keep it reasonable and hold off on beating our chest with bold statements and delusional comments, esp when we all know the winner of the North is up for grabs. GBR

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