Thread of Hate

[HuskerfaninOkieland]

I hate when i get home tonight to our whiteboard reading "next time someone goes to the store we're out of paper towels, i bought last"

I fUKCING BOUGHT LAST

But you must not have purchased "Huked awn Fonix"

 

[HuskerfaninOkieland]

I hate that I am forty-fucking-two years old and my body, after years of manual labor jobs, is busted the fuck up and I am too tired, too sore, too wiped out to play with my kid. I also fucking hate cancer's b!^@h a$$ for ensuring that I have one kid and one kid only, and she has nobody to play with but me, but I'm too goddammed tired most of the time to play.

Have kids young, like, in your 20s. You'll have the energy to play with them, you'll have less risk of cancer if you do, and they'll be grown and out of the house and you'll still be young enough afterwards to enjoy life.

Some days I feel like a shit father. And I'm not a shit father. I'm just old.

I had my oldest son when I was 21, my youngest when I was 25. My oldest is now close to finishing up his first year in the Air Force and my youngest is a Jr in High School. In some ways have kids young was a hinderance. When buddies are going out and having a good time, I'm home babysitting, wiping throw-up off my shirt, changing sh**ty diapers and dodging the errant piss stream. But, looking back, I wouldn't change it for the world. I was young enough to have fun with my kids. In way, I grew up with my kids. I just turned 42 and I still have energy to do things with my kids.

And yes, cancer is a son-of-a-b!^@h. Just found out my Aunt has cancer spreading thru her body like a hot knife thru butter. Doctors gave her 2-5 years tops but my other Aunt did some research and based on what she found, she could have months.

 

[knapplc]

I'm not joking.

There's a huge disconnect in where the money in this country lies. Basically the older generation finds way to hold onto its money at all cost; the result is very few job opportunities and obscenely low salaries for the 20-28 age group. The age disconnect in the wealth distribution in this country is way higher than it has ever been. And something like 45% of all college grads under age 25 are unemployed. Not fun times. Of course I know you're not joking either. Just saying, I'm not starting a family until I'm able to get a little more income and know that I can feed the kid and buy clothes and whatnot.

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http://www.esquire.c...2?click=main_sr

The job market sucks. We're in a recession. There are more college graduates than ever. Combine those two things and you suddenly have a glut of degree-earning workers who simply aren't necessary. You're more likely to be unemployed or underemployed with a degree today than since the 1980s. That has very little to do with the older generation holding onto its money and far more to do with the fact that, with more degrees out there, your degree is worth less.

Imagine yourself 20 years from now. You've started in sh#t jobs, worked your way up the ladder, and you have, finally, a decent home, food on the table, and a couple of bucks in the bank. Are you implying that you're going to do anything other than "hold on to your money at all costs?" Because you are.

You seem to be discovering that life as a college graduate isn't sunshine and daisies. It sucks, and I'm sorry for you, but it's the same reality I faced 20 years ago. It's the same reality your kids are going to face. Nobody is going to voluntarily give up their job for you. You have to take it from them. This article seems to imply there's something wrong with older generations having more money. There isn't. They earned it, they worked for it, and they have every right to keep that money and their job. I guarantee you that you'll do the same.

 

[knapplc]

And yes, cancer is a son-of-a-b!^@h. Just found out my Aunt has cancer spreading thru her body like a hot knife thru butter. Doctors gave her 2-5 years tops but my other Aunt did some research and based on what she found, she could have months.

I'm very sorry to hear about your aunt.

They gave my mom 18-24 months. She had 10. Those are always optimistic prognostications. If I was a doctor, I'd say the same thing.

 

[tschu]

Oh I know knapp. But just read the article, stats don't lie.

The problem now isn't that college grads are at the bottom of the ladder and have to work up; that sounds quite nice by comparison to a lot of people (and thankfully I'm employed and happy, albeit at the bottom of the ladder.) The problem for a lot of people is that the bottom of the ladder is like a fire escape ladder; lots of my friends are having extreme difficulty even jumping up to reach the bottom of the ladder.

 

[HuskerShark]

I hate that I am forty-fucking-two years old and my body, after years of manual labor jobs, is busted the fuck up and I am too tired, too sore, too wiped out to play with my kid. I also fucking hate cancer's b!^@h a$$ for ensuring that I have one kid and one kid only, and she has nobody to play with but me, but I'm too goddammed tired most of the time to play.

Have kids young, like, in your 20s. You'll have the energy to play with them, you'll have less risk of cancer if you do, and they'll be grown and out of the house and you'll still be young enough afterwards to enjoy life.

Some days I feel like a shit father. And I'm not a shit father. I'm just old.

This is why when looking for potential jobs, I not only think about what I would like to do, but also what will keep my body more healthy. I think I've settled on giving teaching ag in high schools a shot because I am student teaching now and am surprised how much I enjoy it. It can be stressful at times, but I feel like I have a positive enough attitude to keep my stress level low.

My mom was 30 and my dad was 33 when they had me, and I know exactly what you mean. On top of being a little old, my dad tore his rotator cuff when he was in college and never had surgery on it. By the time I was 14 or 15, he could hardly throw the football or baseball back to me. I always remember saying that I would like to have kids earlier in life than my parents had me. We will see if it happens or not....

 

[HuskerfaninOkieland]

And yes, cancer is a son-of-a-b!^@h. Just found out my Aunt has cancer spreading thru her body like a hot knife thru butter. Doctors gave her 2-5 years tops but my other Aunt did some research and based on what she found, she could have months.

I'm very sorry to hear about your aunt.

They gave my mom 18-24 months. She had 10. Those are always optimistic prognostications. If I was a doctor, I'd say the same thing.

Thanks. She's struggled with cancer for years so she's a tough ole broad. She's had two bouts of breast cancer previous but just recently they discovered some tumors on her brain and they think there are more but are too small to detect right now. They also strongly believe cancer cells are literally flowing thru her blood so they suspect it will start to overtake her body. Yeah I f'ing hate cancer

 

[ZRod]

Knapp don't feel bad about being "old" I'm 24 (only child) and my dad is 64. He's had bad knee as long as I can remember (torn acl, no cartilage, just had one replace last year) and a bad back, but he's still a great dad. Still coached me in midget football and did a lot of other stuff for me. Just do what you can when you can and if you don't feel like playing with them go tell them to play in the street. I heard that a lot...

 

[Count 'Bility]

Oh I know knapp. But just read the article, stats don't lie.

The problem now isn't that college grads are at the bottom of the ladder and have to work up; that sounds quite nice by comparison to a lot of people (and thankfully I'm employed and happy, albeit at the bottom of the ladder.) The problem for a lot of people is that the bottom of the ladder is like a fire escape ladder; lots of my friends are having extreme difficulty even jumping up to reach the bottom of the ladder.

Remember this when says "tax the rich, durka durka". Old fogies holding on to their money and not hiring, but yet the more they make, the more they have to pay in. Heck ya theyre holding on to it, there is no incentive expand right now. I know. I know two quite large business owners rather closely, and they are very open about the problems right now, and have said that there is no incentive to expand right now, and it only going to get worse, may even become beneficial to downsize before long. People say the rich have too much and should get taxed more, but, the rich write the paychecks. Sorry for turning this into a political discussion. I feel your pain too. My wife has a college degree as well. For five years could not find a job, then found out while applying for one last summer that "time had run out" since she had not held a job in her field in 5 years, had to go get "re-qualified". Basically take another years worth of classes. She gave up. Said to hell with it for now. Works in a factory for a very honorably wage, and brings home the best benefits we've ever had. We've been paying 400/mo. back in loans for 6 years and still have 8k to go, and not reeping one benefit from it.

As far as starting at the bottom of the ladder, there's nothing wrong with that. 30 years ago my Dad was rolling scrap barrels across a junkyard for minimum wage (which then was less than 2$). Now 30 years later, I guarantee he could buy everything you and me own combined with cash out of his pocket. One just has to put their head down, do their job understanding that theyre only in that position because of their choices. I think too many college graduates expect the world on a silver platter after graduation and it doesnt work that way. I'm not accusing you or you friends of this because I do not even know you, but I do know many with this way of thinking. They have very nice paying jobs but mope around and b!^@h becuase theyre not making 6 figures at 24 years old and the 60 year old that's been at it for almost 4 decades is. I think there is way too much sense of entitlement in society that some think they should not have to earn their way up that ladder.

 

[Blackshirts007]

I hate these byu mormon players...they just knocked out a d line man with a massive helmet to helmet hit, and the players are going up to the O-line guy for Byu and padding him on the shoulders and standing around laughing and making jokes about it as the hawaii player has been laying down not moving for 5 minutes.

 

[HuskerfaninOkieland]

I hate these byu mormon players...they just knocked out a d line man with a massive helmet to helmet hit, and the players are going up to the O-line guy for Byu and padding him on the shoulders and standing around laughing and making jokes about it as the hawaii player has been laying down not moving for 5 minutes.

I don't agree with the BYU players high-fivin' their teammate, but there was nothing I seen that shown it was malicious or even a huge helmet-to-helmet hit. Nothing I've seen shows it to be a flagrant foul.

 

[Blackshirts007]

I hate these byu mormon players...they just knocked out a d line man with a massive helmet to helmet hit, and the players are going up to the O-line guy for Byu and padding him on the shoulders and standing around laughing and making jokes about it as the hawaii player has been laying down not moving for 5 minutes.

I don't agree with the BYU players high-fivin' their teammate, but there was nothing I seen that shown it was malicious or even a huge helmet-to-helmet hit. Nothing I've seen shows it to be a flagrant foul.

i dont' think it was flagrent, but he did hit him helmet to helmet no question.

 

[HuskerfaninOkieland]

I hate these byu mormon players...they just knocked out a d line man with a massive helmet to helmet hit, and the players are going up to the O-line guy for Byu and padding him on the shoulders and standing around laughing and making jokes about it as the hawaii player has been laying down not moving for 5 minutes.

I don't agree with the BYU players high-fivin' their teammate, but there was nothing I seen that shown it was malicious or even a huge helmet-to-helmet hit. Nothing I've seen shows it to be a flagrant foul.

i dont' think it was flagrent, but he did hit him helmet to helmet no question.

There's going to be helmet-to-helmet in every game. It's just the nature of the beast. Like I said, nothing I seen looked like it was even a big hit. Just normal blocking really.

 

[RedRedJarvisRedwine]

Knapp don't feel bad about being "old" I'm 24 (only child) and my dad is 64. He's had bad knee as long as I can remember (torn acl, no cartilage, just had one replace last year) and a bad back, but he's still a great dad. Still coached me in midget football and did a lot of other stuff for me. Just do what you can when you can and if you don't feel like playing with them go tell them to play in the street. I heard that a lot...

I thought you guys liked to be called "little people?" why don't they call it Little People Football instead of midget football?

 

[HuskerShark]

Knapp don't feel bad about being "old" I'm 24 (only child) and my dad is 64. He's had bad knee as long as I can remember (torn acl, no cartilage, just had one replace last year) and a bad back, but he's still a great dad. Still coached me in midget football and did a lot of other stuff for me. Just do what you can when you can and if you don't feel like playing with them go tell them to play in the street. I heard that a lot...

I thought you guys liked to be called "little people?" why don't they call it Little People Football instead of midget football?

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