To Tweet Or Not To Tweet
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HuskerShark
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If it were truly against the rules and enforceable, I would be one of the first people to create a twitter account, pose as a fan of Alabama (or "booster") and start tweeting all of their recruits. It's an absolutely asinine rule that will NEVER be enforced because of its stupidity. THAT is all that needs to be said.
If this were really an enforceable rule, people would not allow a guy like Johnny Stanton who commits early to reach out to other recruits in an attempt to get them to come to Nebraska. In fact, people do the opposite. Johnny Stanton was applauded for his efforts, as he should be. But if he's promoting Nebraska, that makes him a booster right? So according to the "rules" he was breaking NCAA rules the entire time he was doing that. Sorry, but that line of thinking is completely ridiculous and you sound stupid if you're actually worried about something like this to become a problem for the University.
Besides, the NCAA has bigger fish to fry who are actually breaking NCAA rules. I'm looking at you, Ole Miss. And pretty much every other SEC school. Not like anything will actually happen with any of those schools, but that's just how it is at this moment in time.
If this were really an enforceable rule, people would not allow a guy like Johnny Stanton who commits early to reach out to other recruits in an attempt to get them to come to Nebraska. In fact, people do the opposite. Johnny Stanton was applauded for his efforts, as he should be. But if he's promoting Nebraska, that makes him a booster right? So according to the "rules" he was breaking NCAA rules the entire time he was doing that. Sorry, but that line of thinking is completely ridiculous and you sound stupid if you're actually worried about something like this to become a problem for the University.
Besides, the NCAA has bigger fish to fry who are actually breaking NCAA rules. I'm looking at you, Ole Miss. And pretty much every other SEC school. Not like anything will actually happen with any of those schools, but that's just how it is at this moment in time.
PaulCrewe
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Since this is the hot debate derailing a glorious thread, which its slightly ironic considering Hedley detailed many a thread, here is a thread for the question.
Seriously, I think it is dumb. It is a violation that is hard to enforce, but again it is a violation. Who knows when/how the morons at the NCAA would crack down on it.
So my questions to those that tweet recruits who have no concern for you, what do you say????
"hey, just had breakfast. Captain crunch rules when you only eat the red berries, cause you know the huskers rule"
"just took a sh#t. It was brown. Shouldn't go to Wyoming cause they wear brown, you know l like poop."
Thoughts.......
Seriously, I think it is dumb. It is a violation that is hard to enforce, but again it is a violation. Who knows when/how the morons at the NCAA would crack down on it.
So my questions to those that tweet recruits who have no concern for you, what do you say????
"hey, just had breakfast. Captain crunch rules when you only eat the red berries, cause you know the huskers rule"
"just took a sh#t. It was brown. Shouldn't go to Wyoming cause they wear brown, you know l like poop."
Thoughts.......
Count 'Bility
Banned
If you like to tweet recruits, then f#*k you.
Minnesota_husker
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Mavric
Yoda
People are arguing two different points - is it "legal" vs. will you get punished.
Since everyone likes the analogies, here's one: If you go out on the highway and drive 100 mph but don't get pulled over, does that mean it's fine to drive that fast or did you just get away with it? If you keep doing that will it increase the chances that you will get caught?
Since everyone likes the analogies, here's one: If you go out on the highway and drive 100 mph but don't get pulled over, does that mean it's fine to drive that fast or did you just get away with it? If you keep doing that will it increase the chances that you will get caught?
HuskerShark
Banned
That's a good comparison, but it's not the same. Speeding laws are enforceable. Tweeting and Facebook rules are not, unless other rules are getting violated, such as illegal benefits.
Mavric
Yoda
How are they not enforceable? They might be extremely difficult and time-consuming to enforce but they could be enforced.
Army_Allen
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Woah, pal. No need for them fightin' wor..... Oh wait this is the shed.... Damnit.
RedRedJarvisRedwine
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An this is a thread dedicated your stalker fetishes! Little did you know or maybe you did, that you are in violation of the rules! Congratulations you assclown! :thumbs
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Count 'Bility
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Creighton Duke
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Haha. I like how in the other thread when I came down on tweeting recruits, people labeled me crazy, Crusty d!(k, and even...Bobby Hill (!). Ohhh how the tables have turned...
knapplc
Active member
One of the folks I emailed was Susan Tatum, Compliance Director for Texas A&M. The response I received was from Fred Barnes:
knapplc,
I will answer your question on Susan’s behalf.
You asked, “In general, is it permissible for fans to interact with non-signed recruits via twitter, Facebook, or any other social media?”
Because of the rules found below, it is generally not permissible for fans (who often meet the NCAA definition of a “representative of an institution’s athletics interests”--and, even if they don’t, if they recruit for an institution, then they meet the NCAA definition after such action) to interact with non-signed OR signed recruits via Twitter, Facebook, email, letters, or any form of correspondence.
13.1.2.1 - General Rule.
All in-person, on- and off-campus recruiting contacts with a prospective student-athlete or the prospective student-athlete's relatives or legal guardians shall be made only by authorized institutional staff members. Such contact, as well as correspondence and telephone calls, by representatives of an institution's athletics interests is prohibited except as otherwise permitted in this section. Violations of this bylaw involving individuals other than a representative of an institution's athletics interests shall be considered institutional violations per Constitution 2.8.1; however, such violations shall not affect the prospective student-athlete's eligibility. (Revised: 8/5/04)
13.02.13 - Recruiting.
Recruiting is any solicitation of a prospective student-athlete or a prospective student-athlete's relatives (or legal guardians) by an institutional staff member or by a representative of the institution's athletics interests for the purpose of securing the prospective student-athlete's enrollment and ultimate participation in the institution's intercollegiate athletics program.
13.02.14 - Representative of Athletics Interests.
A "representative of the institution's athletics interests" is an individual, independent agency, corporate entity (e.g., apparel or equipment manufacturer) or other organization who is known (or who should have been known) by a member of the institution's executive or athletics administration to: (Revised: 2/16/00)
(a) Have participated in or to be a member of an agency or organization promoting the institution's intercollegiate athletics program;
(b) Have made financial contributions to the athletics department or to an athletics booster organization of that institution;
( c) Be assisting or to have been requested (by the athletics department staff) to assist in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes;
(d) Be assisting or to have assisted in providing benefits to enrolled student-athletes or their families; or
(e) Have been involved otherwise in promoting the institution's athletics program.
Note - the formatting got all wonky from his email to this post. The underlined above was highlighted in his email, but you can't highlight in this board software.
Regardless, it's very clear that tweeting recruits is a violation of NCAA recruiting rules.
Now, here's the fun part. As mentioned in another of the emails I received, if UNL finds out that a specific member is tweeting recruits, they are required by NCAA rule to alert the NCAA about the activity, and failure to do so is a violation. And since we know that members of the UNL Athletic Dept. frequent these boards, and it's possible one, under some user name, has access to the Shed, they may know now that Army_Allen has been tweeting recruits on behalf of Nebraska.
I'd feel like a world class a$$ if I put the Huskers in a position of having to self-report because I lack the basic common sense of a box of hammers.
EDIT - for the record, that's ten of the 23 Compliance Departments I emailed who have responded. Ten of ten have said it's a violation.
knapplc,
I will answer your question on Susan’s behalf.
You asked, “In general, is it permissible for fans to interact with non-signed recruits via twitter, Facebook, or any other social media?”
Because of the rules found below, it is generally not permissible for fans (who often meet the NCAA definition of a “representative of an institution’s athletics interests”--and, even if they don’t, if they recruit for an institution, then they meet the NCAA definition after such action) to interact with non-signed OR signed recruits via Twitter, Facebook, email, letters, or any form of correspondence.
13.1.2.1 - General Rule.
All in-person, on- and off-campus recruiting contacts with a prospective student-athlete or the prospective student-athlete's relatives or legal guardians shall be made only by authorized institutional staff members. Such contact, as well as correspondence and telephone calls, by representatives of an institution's athletics interests is prohibited except as otherwise permitted in this section. Violations of this bylaw involving individuals other than a representative of an institution's athletics interests shall be considered institutional violations per Constitution 2.8.1; however, such violations shall not affect the prospective student-athlete's eligibility. (Revised: 8/5/04)
13.02.13 - Recruiting.
Recruiting is any solicitation of a prospective student-athlete or a prospective student-athlete's relatives (or legal guardians) by an institutional staff member or by a representative of the institution's athletics interests for the purpose of securing the prospective student-athlete's enrollment and ultimate participation in the institution's intercollegiate athletics program.
13.02.14 - Representative of Athletics Interests.
A "representative of the institution's athletics interests" is an individual, independent agency, corporate entity (e.g., apparel or equipment manufacturer) or other organization who is known (or who should have been known) by a member of the institution's executive or athletics administration to: (Revised: 2/16/00)
(a) Have participated in or to be a member of an agency or organization promoting the institution's intercollegiate athletics program;
(b) Have made financial contributions to the athletics department or to an athletics booster organization of that institution;
( c) Be assisting or to have been requested (by the athletics department staff) to assist in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes;
(d) Be assisting or to have assisted in providing benefits to enrolled student-athletes or their families; or
(e) Have been involved otherwise in promoting the institution's athletics program.
Note - the formatting got all wonky from his email to this post. The underlined above was highlighted in his email, but you can't highlight in this board software.
Regardless, it's very clear that tweeting recruits is a violation of NCAA recruiting rules.
Now, here's the fun part. As mentioned in another of the emails I received, if UNL finds out that a specific member is tweeting recruits, they are required by NCAA rule to alert the NCAA about the activity, and failure to do so is a violation. And since we know that members of the UNL Athletic Dept. frequent these boards, and it's possible one, under some user name, has access to the Shed, they may know now that Army_Allen has been tweeting recruits on behalf of Nebraska.
I'd feel like a world class a$$ if I put the Huskers in a position of having to self-report because I lack the basic common sense of a box of hammers.
EDIT - for the record, that's ten of the 23 Compliance Departments I emailed who have responded. Ten of ten have said it's a violation.
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knapplc
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Do you even know what an analogy is? You get so hung up on whether the example (the analogy) is an exact comparison you entirely miss the point the person is making.
You're so consumed with being right that you're incapable of having a basic conversation.
