The Solich Curse

HuskerNationNick said:
husker_99 said:
Ok first let's stop saying winnable games as though they count as wins. Yes Solich inherited TO's talent but then so did Bo from Callahan? Do you honestly think Bo has recruited the same players Callahan did? Callahan could recruit but couldn't coach. Bo can coach but seems his recruiting isn't as good as Callahan's. Without Callahan's recruits we don't have the awesome defense we had in 2009, 2010 and probably don't even make the ccg. Bo was given good recruits and his coaching made them better. Now that Bo can only rely on his recruits it seems the D has gotten softer.
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Are you f'ing kidding me?! Do you even read the sh#t your typing? Bo didn't have TALENTED players like TO left. Bo didn't have GREAT Assistants, like TO left. TO left a BUILT DYNASTY, from PLAYERS to ASSISTANTS, and gave it all to Solich. Solich sunk it. Didn't only sink the it, he ruined our pipeline. Callahan then ruined our whole program and set us back a decade. Not meaning to the 90's, meaning losing a decade of progression.

Also, Bo made those guys into gold, when Callahan couldn't. How many top recruiting classes did the "great recruiter" Callahan have? IIRC it was one. Class of '05.

I am not replying to this nonsense anymore. To even say that the program was in good shape when Bo got it, is complete asinine. Maybe its fans like you that is the curse you speak of.
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I don't think TO left a dynasty that was completely intact. The assistant coaches were old and many did not recruit. Things got really bad after McBride retired. Solich could not fire anyone because of historical success. The 7-7 season triggered a house cleaning, and we never got to see if it would have been successful. BC destroyed the program, but at least he didn't get any NCAA sanctions.

In any case, this wasn't meant to be a thread about if it right or wrong to fire frank or if Bo is better than Frank. I just want to have some fun with silly superscriptions and how creative Husker fans would break the Solich curse. of course Callahan bashing is always welcome.

 
1: husker_99 must be on spring break.

2: Solich took over a program that just completed the best dynasty ever and destroyed what was.

3: Callahan continued the destruction regardless of some of the recruits he got. It all starts with recruiting, but it ends with player development.

4: Bo came in and took over the program. A first time head coach that has learned on the fly and continues to win. You don't win 9 or more games every year as a head coach if you don't know what the ^&*( you are doing. You lose games and units play bad because of poor recruiting and poor player development. There is a two year gap of poor recruiting for the defensive side of the ball and it showed last season. It takes two to three years to "replenish" the poor recruiting with better athletes.

5: The team needs to play with some tougher balls and the way you accomplish that is practice harder. That is what is being done this spring. But it needs to continue into the fall.

6: The WR group this year might end up being the best in school history.

7: The running offense is one of the best in the entire country and there shouldn't be no reason why we do not finish near the top again.

8: Beck is the new offensive coordinator and he has a good system going now. We have some good coaches in the program now. But we need stability in the staff so we can keep building those recruiting pipelines....and that is already started with the 2016 class.

9: Teams that win conference championships often times have QBs that won state championships in high school. The data overwhelming supports this. For example, look at who the QBs were when Florida was winning the SEC and who their QBs were and how they did in high school (don't be a fool and fall a trap for the recruiting rankings for QBs....that is the last position you want to do that with).

10: To win in the B1G you need to dominate the LOS.....this isn't a pass happy league where you win by having 20 defensive backs on your roster.

I could say more but that is enough for now.

Lastly, it blows my mind how anyone could support the coaching job of Solich or Callahan.......they were terrible and there is a reason why neither is a head coach for a major BCS program.

We WILL win a conference championship soon and a national championship within the next decade.

 
HuskerThor said:
nebraskafaninwi said:
The 2000s went down as the lost decade.....amazes me how people do not see that.
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^^^^^^^^^^^

The curse of HuskerBoard.
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There is no curse. It was simply due to a poor hire and crappy coaching and crappy recruiting. Then a second hire that was terrible and we all know the results. We are now back to winning at minimum of 9 games a season and that should continue to get better. We have to have stability in the program before we have a shot at getting back to the top. You need stability in your coaching staff to develop relationships in recruiting that go three classes ahead with the way things work in recruiting these days.

 
nebraskafaninwi said:
HuskerThor said:
nebraskafaninwi said:
The 2000s went down as the lost decade.....amazes me how people do not see that.
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^^^^^^^^^^^

The curse of HuskerBoard.
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There is no curse. It was simply due to a poor hire and crappy coaching and crappy recruiting. Then a second hire that was terrible and we all know the results. We are now back to winning at minimum of 9 games a season and that should continue to get better. We have to have stability in the program before we have a shot at getting back to the top. You need stability in your coaching staff to develop relationships in recruiting that go three classes ahead with the way things work in recruiting these days.
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I agree with you, Inwi. This thread is misleading as Solich's leaving wasn't the curse. The Solich and Callahan eras were a big step back for Nebraska. Bo has been course correcting, and it has been paying dividends, though not there yet. However, with the influx of new talent through the strong recruiting efforts, we should see better performance as these recruits learn the system.

 
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This is when the curse to the University of Nebraska began!

 
Pelini lost the '09 XII title. 3rd andt seven on our last drive, and we dive Rex to set up the chip shot for Alex. If we get that 1st, we control the game. Play action and hit McNeil in the flat, let him dive for the sticks. We played with nothing to lose to that point. I was never a big Callahan guy, but his call to play action and hit Nunn on a short out a great call, and would have worked if not for some horrible luck. What sucks is that we may never play texas again in my lifetime to avenge any of those losses.

 
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irafreak said:
I'll go along with this theory. We've taken steps to undo the curse....honoring solich and such...restoring TO to power...purging the evil. A good comparision is probably the tale of Beauty and the Beast. He was appalled by the old lady because of her hideous looks and became hideous until an unbiased party could see past his hideous looks. So Nebraska was appalled by Solich's job and has become equal to the old lady (solich's on the field performance I guess) and until an unbiased third party excepts Nebraska despite the Solich win-loss records the curse will remain...that is until the Rose dies and we remain medocre for the end of our days.

So the third party needs to be beautiful because Beauty was beautiful...so in this case beautiful would mean an entity whose opinion was relevent...so Minnesota fans thinking we're a good team means nothing...we need ESPN or FOX 1 to see our program for perfection despite the record! I would think the B1G selecting us to be their expansion team would count but I guess not. Perhaps the transformation from beast to prince is a slow process and the B1G just nullified their effects by selecting Maryland and Rutgers thus exposing a lack of taste. Let's face it, Beauty thinking the Beast was attractive would mean nothing were she a whore. So now it's Delaney's fault!

So to summarize my theory....

We need the media to see us as a wonderful program even when we lose and all of this must happen before the Rose bowl becomes extinct...perhaps the playoffs will diminish the rose bowl's worth and it eventually disappears or is renamed into the Macy's Day Parade Bowl! Dear God we MUST break the curse. Perhaps ESPN can be bribed...we should've joined the SEC.
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Brilliant

 
accountability said:
OH HSKR FAN said:
How much patience does Husker nation have? Someone help me out here. Oz did not win a Big 8 title right away?
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Not till his 6th year if that. Some pretty embarrassing losses to Oklahoma in that time as well.
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Technically it took Osborne 3 years to win a conference title.

However that's kind of unfair. The 1975 conference title was shared with Oklahoma as both Nebraska and Oklahoma went 6-1 in conference that season.. but OU beat NU 35-10.

Osborne's 2nd conference title came in 1978. Also a shared title with Oklahoma as both Nebraska and Oklahoma once again went 6-1 in conference that season.. that year NU beat OU 17-14. (but then turned around the next week and at home to unranked Missouri.)

To put it in perspective, Nebraska had won 3 conference titles in a row before Osborne took over (1970, 1971, 1972 and shared the title in 1969) and when Osborne took over Nebraska was not even a co-champion for 4 of the next 5 years. (and the one they were again was that 1975 season.)

Osborne's first unshared conference championship came in 1981. His 9th year as head coach.

 
Blackshirt316 said:
accountability said:
OH HSKR FAN said:
How much patience does Husker nation have? Someone help me out here. Oz did not win a Big 8 title right away?
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Not till his 6th year if that. Some pretty embarrassing losses to Oklahoma in that time as well.
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Technically it took Osborne 3 years to win a conference title.

However that's kind of unfair. The 1975 conference title was shared with Oklahoma as both Nebraska and Oklahoma went 6-1 in conference that season.. but OU beat NU 35-10.

Osborne's 2nd conference title came in 1978. Also a shared title with Oklahoma as both Nebraska and Oklahoma once again went 6-1 in conference that season.. that year NU beat OU 17-14. (but then turned around the next week and at home to unranked Missouri.)

To put it in perspective, Nebraska had won 3 conference titles in a row before Osborne took over (1970, 1971, 1972 and shared the title in 1969) and when Osborne took over Nebraska was not even a co-champion for 4 of the next 5 years. (and the one they were again was that 1975 season.)

Osborne's first unshared conference championship came in 1981. His 9th year as head coach.
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I see what youre saying as far as shared titles, but in my opinion, when two teams have the same record, and one beats the other on the field, theyre the champions outright. It was settled between the hedges.

 
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