The Christian Response to Jason Collins
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It'sNotAFakeID
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StPaulHusker
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I assumed nothing. I do not feel it is a sin. I never said it was. The bible has issues with it. Not me. I couldn't care less who lays down with whom. But I respect a religions right to not fall in lockstep with these same thoughts. I don't think there should be amendments to any Constitution to ban it by law because that would be the exact opposite of what a Constitutions purpose is. But people have a right to speak their peace about this topic whether you agree or disagree with what they say. If they feel it is a sin and feel that based on their religious beliefs that if they condone any part of it that they could go to hell, who are you to say they are wrong? Just respect people's opinions and if you don't like their answer, move along because you won't change their mind. At least not in a forum like this.
carlfense
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strigori
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Part where? Race, gender and religion are non-starters. But in most states, anything else is fair game, at least until the reason goes public and the backlash sets in, which is why most employers have rules that clearly define what is a fireable offense. Typically things that are beyond your control get protected status, while choices do not. And sexual orientation is not something one chooses, and has started getting protected status is many places.
HuskerShark
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What I've always wondered is, if you aren't Christian or a believer in a religion that practices marriage...
What would be the point of getting married? Wouldn't that just make it an arbitrary practice?
What would be the point of getting married? Wouldn't that just make it an arbitrary practice?
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Landlord
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You're kidding, right?
Our society and our government has attached a very, very large number of benefits to marriages (civil unions) that aren't possible or obtainable by any other avenue.
strigori
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It predates religion, and goes beyond a religious practice. Its a societal thing, that has been practiced by virtually every civilization humans have ever had.
HuskerShark
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Not really. It's something I've always wondered. As Christians, we believe that marriage is the union of 2 souls in Christ. I would think that non-religious marriages stemmed from that, but maybe not. So aside from the benefits that married couples receive, there is no logical reason for non-religious people to get married?...
strigori
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knapplc
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Monogamy isn't relegated to humans. Several species of primates are monogamous, as are bald eagles, turtle doves, even some fish are known to select a single partner throughout their lives.
Humans just formalized monogamy and called it "marriage," but it really has nothing to do with religion. Religious components to marriage are a late addition to the process.
Aside from that, there are numerous legal benefits, including but not limited to:
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Humans just formalized monogamy and called it "marriage," but it really has nothing to do with religion. Religious components to marriage are a late addition to the process.
Aside from that, there are numerous legal benefits, including but not limited to:
- Filing joint income tax returns with the IRS and state taxing authorities.
- Creating a "family partnership" under federal tax laws, which allows you to divide business income among family members.
- Inheriting a share of your spouse's estate.
- Receiving an exemption from both estate taxes and gift taxes for all property you give or leave to your spouse.
- Creating life estate trusts that are restricted to married couples, including QTIP trusts, QDOT trusts, and marital deduction trusts.
- Obtaining priority if a conservator needs to be appointed for your spouse -- that is, someone to make financial and/or medical decisions on your spouse's behalf.
- Receiving Social Security, Medicare, and disability benefits for spouses.
- Receiving veterans' and military benefits for spouses, such as those for education, medical care, or special loans.
- Receiving public assistance benefits.
- Obtaining insurance benefits through a spouse's employer.
- Taking family leave to care for your spouse during an illness.
- Receiving wages, workers' compensation, and retirement plan benefits for a deceased spouse.
- Taking bereavement leave if your spouse or one of your spouse's close relatives dies.
- Visiting your spouse in a hospital intensive care unit or during restricted visiting hours in other parts of a medical facility.
- Making medical decisions for your spouse if he or she becomes incapacitated and unable to express wishes for treatment.
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BigRedBuster
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Try loving someone for years and living with them only to find out that when that person gets sick and is in Intensive Care and dieing, you are not allowed to be by their bed side because you are not family.