so, listening to Sharp and Benning in the morning

The sellout record doesn't bother me as much as the beating Texas tech put on us and the end of the our consecutive bowl run those two were sad days for me.

 
I'm confused, Sker. Are you saying...

1) Bo is doing great.

2) Bo is not doing great, but it's too risky to try for more because it's possible to do worse.

 
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carlfense said:
74Hunter said:
carlfense said:
74Hunter said:
Some of us feel that 9+ wins and the chance to play for conference championships every other year is better than the possibility of a losing season and losing the sellout streak.
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What is it that is so perplexing about that post?
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Not so much perplexing as wondering.

I continue to be impressed by the clairvoyance that allows anyone anyone to state that we have to choose between Bo and his 4 loss floor/ceiling or a losing season/lost sell out streak.
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Holy old thread dig up......

To win a championship, we gotta get there first. Bo had us there 3 times. There is no evidence that suggests that another coach could do the same. Likewise, nothing guarantees that 4 loss seasons are Bo's ceiling.

 
My question is always where's the threshold? If we lost 3 games for each of the next whatever season would you be happy? What about 2 games each season? 1 game but it was always the conference championship game?

How do we quantify these things?

I think there's always an ebb and flow to the game. Record is always just going to tell part of the story. If you're not looking at the greater context, you're wasting everyone's time.

 
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I think there's always an ebb and flow to the game. Record is always just going to tell part of the story. If you're not looking at the greater context, you're wasting everyone's time.
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i think that is the point. our teams have not looked very good for the past few years. 4 losses is the manifestation of that, but not the issue. the issue is that we are no longer competitive with the best teams in a rather weak conference.

 
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i think that is the point. our teams have not looked very good for the past few years. 4 losses is the manifestation of that, but not the issue. the issue is that we are no longer competitive with the best teams in a rather weak conference.
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Agreed. The 4 losses number without context paints a rosier picture than reality.

 
Since the subject of Bo is rehashed in every other thread on this board and the same arguments for and against keep resurfacing, why don't someone who has the time just create a set of Pro Bo and a No Bo threads and those who argue one way or the other can just supply the links to support your arguments?

I am in the camp that many others have claimed to be in as well and that is I hope Bo can get it done. I would like to see him succeed but I have doubts that he has the ability to take us further than where we are presently. I am not worried about us being able to attract a top flight coach, nor am I ignorant to the fact that some institutions would love to switch places with us with only 4 losses a year. I however believe we should be able to get back to being competitive with anyone and everyone we play consistently. W - L records are only part of the equation in my opinion but seeing the same issues year in and year out without correction is quite another. If SE was good with another year or 2 to see how things progress, regress or stagnate, so am I and will support the team and root for Bo's success. I do reserve the right to complain about obvious things that will be evident to all of us as the season progresses.

 
carlfense said:
74Hunter said:
To win a championship, we gotta get there first. Bo had us there 3 times.
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And then what happened?

74Hunter said:
There is no evidence that suggests that another coach could do the same.
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Certainly, we lost. Once horribly, and nobody likes that it happened.

My second statement was worded poorly. I should have said that there are no guarantees that another coach could do the same or better. All information that I have heard and taking past experience into consideration point to the opposite.

 
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Since the subject of Bo is rehashed in every other thread on this board and the same arguments for and against keep resurfacing, why don't someone who has the time just create a set of Pro Bo and a No Bo threads and those who argue one way or the other can just supply the links to support your arguments?
I am in the camp that many others have claimed to be in as well and that is I hope Bo can get it done. I would like to see him succeed but I have doubts that he has the ability to take us further than where we are presently. I am not worried about us being able to attract a top flight coach, nor am I ignorant to the fact that some institutions would love to switch places with us with only 4 losses a year. I however believe we should be able to get back to being competitive with anyone and everyone we play consistently. W - L records are only part of the equation in my opinion but seeing the same issues year in and year out without correction is quite another. If SE was good with another year or 2 to see how things progress, regress or stagnate, so am I and will support the team and root for Bo's success. I do reserve the right to complain about obvious things that will be evident to all of us as the season progresses.
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I mostly agree, except that I do fear that we wouldn't find someone better.

 
74Hunter said:
TAKODA said:
Since the subject of Bo is rehashed in every other thread on this board and the same arguments for and against keep resurfacing, why don't someone who has the time just create a set of Pro Bo and a No Bo threads and those who argue one way or the other can just supply the links to support your arguments?
I am in the camp that many others have claimed to be in as well and that is I hope Bo can get it done. I would like to see him succeed but I have doubts that he has the ability to take us further than where we are presently. I am not worried about us being able to attract a top flight coach, nor am I ignorant to the fact that some institutions would love to switch places with us with only 4 losses a year. I however believe we should be able to get back to being competitive with anyone and everyone we play consistently. W - L records are only part of the equation in my opinion but seeing the same issues year in and year out without correction is quite another. If SE was good with another year or 2 to see how things progress, regress or stagnate, so am I and will support the team and root for Bo's success. I do reserve the right to complain about obvious things that will be evident to all of us as the season progresses.
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I mostly agree, except that I do fear that we wouldn't find someone better.
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“Fear and anxiety many times indicates that we are moving in a positive direction, out of the safe confines of our comfort zone, and in the direction of our true purpose.” ~ Charles F. Glassman ,
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