walksalone
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Not for nothing, it's not like TA has seen a ton of time himself. If it weren't for T-marts injury, we'd have 3 QB's with very little game experience...
My QB mis-analysis
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darkhorse85
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I don't want to knit pick here but a parsec is a unit of distance, not time. I thought you were better than that, knapp. For shame.His run for a first down in the first quarter, I think on our first drive, showed speed enough to run this offense. He makes it through the line and he's going to get yards in chunks of five or ten at a time, and with Ameer, Cross, and the plethora of younger RBs, that's more than fast enough.
We do not need Taylor Martinez Kessel-run-in-twelve-parsecs speed at quarterback. We were spoiled with Martinez, and it was great to have that home-run threat every snap, but we're more than capable of grinding out drives five yards at a time with Armstrong.
And that's a good point about giving Tommy's knee time to heal up. People seem to forget he got his knee scoped seven weeks before his first start of 2013, and this was his level of mobility 13 months before he started his first bowl game:
*edited becasue I'm possibly still drunk from last night
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Saunders
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Umm.....I don't want to knit pick here but a parsec is a unit of measurement, not time. I thought you were better than that, knapp. For shame.His run for a first down in the first quarter, I think on our first drive, showed speed enough to run this offense. He makes it through the line and he's going to get yards in chunks of five or ten at a time, and with Ameer, Cross, and the plethora of younger RBs, that's more than fast enough.
We do not need Taylor Martinez Kessel-run-in-twelve-parsecs speed at quarterback. We were spoiled with Martinez, and it was great to have that home-run threat every snap, but we're more than capable of grinding out drives five yards at a time with Armstrong.
And that's a good point about giving Tommy's knee time to heal up. People seem to forget he got his knee scoped seven weeks before his first start of 2013, and this was his level of mobility 13 months before he started his first bowl game:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kessel_Run
darkhorse85
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Yes? Here's what I took from that:Umm.....I don't want to knit pick here but a parsec is a unit of measurement, not time. I thought you were better than that, knapp. For shame.His run for a first down in the first quarter, I think on our first drive, showed speed enough to run this offense. He makes it through the line and he's going to get yards in chunks of five or ten at a time, and with Ameer, Cross, and the plethora of younger RBs, that's more than fast enough.
We do not need Taylor Martinez Kessel-run-in-twelve-parsecs speed at quarterback. We were spoiled with Martinez, and it was great to have that home-run threat every snap, but we're more than capable of grinding out drives five yards at a time with Armstrong.
And that's a good point about giving Tommy's knee time to heal up. People seem to forget he got his knee scoped seven weeks before his first start of 2013, and this was his level of mobility 13 months before he started his first bowl game:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kessel_Run
HUSKER FREAK
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Yes, but not being completely comfortable in the offense they were in did. I know he needs to hang on to the ball, but being a freshman and being in an offense he wasn't quite comfortable being in, I thought he did pretty good. I also was happy to Tmart go he was tearing the team apart even if he would have never gotten hurt I just don't think he would have been Eric Crouch good.
NUpolo8
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Being multiple and playing basketball on grass isn't like dusting crops, boy.Yes? Here's what I took from that:Umm.....I don't want to knit pick here but a parsec is a unit of measurement, not time. I thought you were better than that, knapp. For shame.His run for a first down in the first quarter, I think on our first drive, showed speed enough to run this offense. He makes it through the line and he's going to get yards in chunks of five or ten at a time, and with Ameer, Cross, and the plethora of younger RBs, that's more than fast enough.
We do not need Taylor Martinez Kessel-run-in-twelve-parsecs speed at quarterback. We were spoiled with Martinez, and it was great to have that home-run threat every snap, but we're more than capable of grinding out drives five yards at a time with Armstrong.
And that's a good point about giving Tommy's knee time to heal up. People seem to forget he got his knee scoped seven weeks before his first start of 2013, and this was his level of mobility 13 months before he started his first bowl game:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kessel_Run
RedDenver
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Who bad-mouths a Star Wars quote? And a quote that was meant to be funny. Honestly.
I don't think the issue is so much speed, rather than acceleration. Martinez's top speed was fast, but not off the charts crazy fast. What made Martinez scary, and what TA lacks, is the ability to be at near top speed in (seemingly) 2-3 steps. If your linebackers aren't darn near perfect in assignment discipline, Martinez will hurt you. If you additionally lack safeties with speed and good intelligence with their angles, Martinez will f*cking murder you. TA lacks that home run threat. What we DO get with him, as has been mentioned, is shiftiness, being able to squeeze a couple of yards out of nothing. If it's 4th and 3, I want TA in there, not Martinez.
Enhance
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I always loved Martinez' take-it-to-the-house threat, but, perhaps what you may lose in explosive playmaking ability, you may make up for in consistency within the offense. In 2010, we had a few games where the lack of a big play meant we struggled. We couldn't grind out those points sometimes. That got better through Martinez' career, though.
I'll certainly miss what Tmart brought to the table, but, TA has different strengths and that could easily play to our advantage in other areas.
TM was straight line fast, not much for fakes or moves...i think Tommy has a little more of that.
Hoosker
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Chaddyboxer
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I agree as well, however there is a fine line IMO. Yes, pull him if he is displaying consistent poor play, but don't just pull him for one or two bad plays in knee-jerk reaction fashion. I have faith in Tommy because of not only his agility and ability to run the option, but of his intangibles such as his leadership and motivational ability.
A QB can rise to the occasion and elevate a team through his play, his emotions and also his word. We've seen it happen before and I don't think many can argue that intangibles don't play a huge role in how a team performs on Saturdays. Tommy has something different about him that we haven't seen in a QB for a while at NEB. I am not saying he is the second coming of Frazier, but I am willing and ready to give the young man a chance regardless of his stats. 7-1 as a starter, started against Michigan and led the team to victory at the Big House. And lastly, led the team to a bowl victory against a talented Georgia squad who many thought we wouldn't beat.
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Chaddyboxer
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In addition, I believe it was later in the 2nd or 3rd quarter that the offense was in a pickle on a long 3rd or 2nd down. The Georgia LB's went into coverage and he scrambled to the right side of the field gobbling up a huge chunk of yardage (12+ or so) for a first down. If he can continue to consistently make those plays when the play looks dead, he'll be a force that defenses will have to key on.His run for a first down in the first quarter, I think on our first drive, showed speed enough to run this offense. He makes it through the line and he's going to get yards in chunks of five or ten at a time, and with Ameer, Cross, and the plethora of younger RBs, that's more than fast enough.
We do not need Taylor Martinez Kessel-run-in-twelve-parsecs speed at quarterback. We were spoiled with Martinez, and it was great to have that home-run threat every snap, but we're more than capable of grinding out drives five yards at a time with Armstrong.
And that's a good point about giving Tommy's knee time to heal up. People seem to forget he got his knee scoped seven weeks before his first start of 2013, and this was his level of mobility 13 months before he started his first bowl game:
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knapplc
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Couple of things. First, as has been pointed out, that's a quote from Star Wars, and you should know that's sacrosanct. No picking of nits allowed.
Second, depending on how deeply we want to dive into physics (which would be off topic, in direct violation of the Prime Directive), time and space can be considered, in theory, the same thing. We could get into the concept of spacetime, or the fact that time is a measurable dimension-like thing altogether different from the dimensions of space, or what happens to time and space when you reach the singularity of a black hole, but we'd probably need a new thread for that.
Enhance
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I don't think we'll have much to worry about here. One reason I don't think the coaches wanted to pull TM in the past was because of a lack of depth behind him. There just weren't many good options. Granted, there isn't a lot of experienced depth behind TA. But, at least now there are a few options and you don't have to worry about burning somebody's redshirt.