Riley Shelf Life

[jmfb]

So, Erickson did good at some places and not good at others. What that tells me is that success at one place doesn't guarantee success at another. Not winning championships at one place doesn't mean he can't do it at another.

This is because every situation is different. Gene Chizik was 5-19 at ISU over two years with his second season being 2-10 with an 0-8 record in the conference. He actually got worse his second year there than his first. He jumps ship to Auburn and two years later he wins an NC.

In 4 years at OSU, Les Miles was 28-21 and the best he had done was 3rd in his division. His bowl record was 1-2. He had a .500 record in conference. He jumps ship to LSU and he wins an NC three years later.

The fact remains that there is a difference in programs and what can be done at those programs. There is a difference between situations coaches are in at various programs.

I will trust the decision making of people who know one hell of a lot more than anyone on an internet message board over if he is the right guy for the job since we have nothing to base anything else on other than speculation.

Im not confident a 62 year old coach who hasnt won anything before in College football- will all of a sudden win something or that someone that hasnt consistently won - will consistently win. Especially when an average by most standards coach came right behind him and was able to do so.

You arent looking at the complete resume when it comes to guys like Miles

Great run at Colorado during the MCCarney era

Nice 8 year run at Michigan

OSU was 5–6, 5–6, and 3–8. the 3 seasons before he got there. He upset top 4 OU in year 1, beat a top 3 OU in one of the subsequent years. his only losing season in 4 was year 1

Im guessing if he stayed he would have been consistently successful there- just like he was at the previous stops and LSU- very consistent

Look at Sean Es resume when it comes to hiring head football coaches, He is the one making the decsion- what is his track record there? He doesnt really have one

If MR has consistent success, SE is officially the smartest guy in the room- but he doesnt have a track record to go on either

Or he could have been like Riley after he went 10-4, 9-4, 9-4, 8-5 and started falling off. If Riley bolted for Bama instead of staying at Oregon St, you could possibly be saying the same thing about him that you are saying about Les right now. And saying someone was a successful assistant coach doesn't necessarily translate to him being a successful head coach.

Will give you the assistant thing- even though No one is willing to admit an average coach did a better job at OSU than Riley even though its there in black and white, an inconvenient truth

Not all good assistants make good CEOs- but it doesnt hurt if the team you coached was successful or you had a chance to work for a very good Head Coach

There is no guarantee MIke Riley would have been Bamas savior right?

Bama wiffed on what 3 coaches before they finally hired Saban and he engineered the turnaround and dynasty that "hot" coaches like Shula, Franchione and Dubose couldnt do

Would Mike Riley been one of the 3 or 4 corpses or not? We will never know- his NU tenure might give us a bit of a clue

There is no guarantee that Saban would have built a dynasty at MSU, is there?

Well Riley hasn't ever won anything, won consistently or built a dynasty anywhere

Saban has engineered 3 turnarounds, 3 consistent winners, 2 of those programs winning National Championships

So yeah kind of a track record with one guy Saban, not so much with the other

I don't think anyone would be betting their life savings that Saban wouldn't have taken that program to the top had he decided to stay past the last year of his 5 year plan 10 win season.

 

[jmfb]

I didn't realize Miles was the HC at Colorado and Michigan.

If you want past success. Riley won two grey cups actually as a HC. Bo won an NC as a coordinator. Where did that put him as an HC?

Nick Saben was 34-24-1 with his best year being 2nd in the conference and he never won a bowl game at MSU before he went to LSU and won an NC 4 years later.

Dantonio is 75 -31 at MSU with a lot more hardware to show for it. Saben never got them there but a different coach could. I'm guessing Saben is a pretty good coach.

It is your opinion that a 62 year old coach can't get it done here and you are basing that off of what he did at a school with much less to offer recruits than Nebraska.

You're entitled to that opinion but that doesn't make it fact.

Had SabAn- not Saben stayed, he would have built a dynasty at MSU, just like he did at LSU and Bama- this again?

Ok- Saban never had a losing season at MSU, brought them up to a winner and had a 10 win season in his last year of the 5 year resurrection plan- he did it

MSU was very happy with the turnaround Saban engineered at MSU- he was right where he said he would be in year 5

Im very certain he would have had as good or better success at MSU had he stayed- hes shown he will go down in history as one of the all time great college coaches

Lots of NFL and College guys haven't been able to make what they did in college work in the NFL and Vis Versa- I don't think it matters MUCH different equation

If that does matter then I guess Rileys failure at San Diego counts too.

For the love of god, Saban didn't do sh#t at MSU. You really have to be ignorant to continually spew that sh#t out. His record there proves it.

Hard to have a real conversation with someone who claims to have a factual based opinion on Saban- when the other person doesn't even know how to spell the mans name

You've done it a lot, the guys name is Nick Saban- not Saben

If you read or follow college football to any level at all- you probably would have gotten that right

If mom doesn't have a cable outlet in the basement at least ride your skateboard over to the closest bar and watch a few games this season

https://www.youtube....h?v=CqwAXk8c2Ew

 

[Saunders]

I didn't realize Miles was the HC at Colorado and Michigan.

If you want past success. Riley won two grey cups actually as a HC. Bo won an NC as a coordinator. Where did that put him as an HC?

Nick Saben was 34-24-1 with his best year being 2nd in the conference and he never won a bowl game at MSU before he went to LSU and won an NC 4 years later.

Dantonio is 75 -31 at MSU with a lot more hardware to show for it. Saben never got them there but a different coach could. I'm guessing Saben is a pretty good coach.

It is your opinion that a 62 year old coach can't get it done here and you are basing that off of what he did at a school with much less to offer recruits than Nebraska.

You're entitled to that opinion but that doesn't make it fact.

Had SabAn- not Saben stayed, he would have built a dynasty at MSU, just like he did at LSU and Bama- this again?

Ok- Saban never had a losing season at MSU, brought them up to a winner and had a 10 win season in his last year of the 5 year resurrection plan- he did it

MSU was very happy with the turnaround Saban engineered at MSU- he was right where he said he would be in year 5

Im very certain he would have had as good or better success at MSU had he stayed- hes shown he will go down in history as one of the all time great college coaches

Lots of NFL and College guys haven't been able to make what they did in college work in the NFL and Vis Versa- I don't think it matters MUCH different equation

If that does matter then I guess Rileys failure at San Diego counts too.

For the love of god, Saban didn't do sh#t at MSU. You really have to be ignorant to continually spew that sh#t out. His record there proves it.

Hard to have a real conversation with someone who claims to have a factual based opinion on Saban- when the other person doesn't even know how to spell the mans name

You've done it a lot, the guys name is Nick Saban- not Saben

If you read or follow college football to any level at all- you probably would have gotten that right

If mom doesn't have a cable outlet in the basement at least ride your skateboard over to the closest bar and watch a few games this season.

He did spell it correctly, so your argument is invalid.

 

[Hedley Lamarr]

My 2 cents

Riley has a lot of work to do. He is currently out recruiting any class he ever had at OSU. He has assembled a superior staff to what he has had at ASU including 2 DCs that are now position coaches for us as well as an AC that picked Riley over Harbaugh. Not to mention one of the hotter names at the WR AC position.

He has done massive overhaul on the PR front and is bringing the family feel back to Lincoln that made many of us fall in love with the Huskers. Has he shown he can reach what our previous regime did? Yes he won 9 and 10 games at an inferior football program. This leads me to believe/hope he will have a program that looks more like

9-3

8-4

11-1

7-5

10-2

9-3

12-0

I would trade something like that over consistent 4 loss seasons. The simple upgrade in facilities and talent will lead to more wins period. He has the 2 highest ranked QBs he has ever had in the same class his first year here.

 

[jmfb]

I didn't realize Miles was the HC at Colorado and Michigan.

If you want past success. Riley won two grey cups actually as a HC. Bo won an NC as a coordinator. Where did that put him as an HC?

Nick Saben was 34-24-1 with his best year being 2nd in the conference and he never won a bowl game at MSU before he went to LSU and won an NC 4 years later.

Dantonio is 75 -31 at MSU with a lot more hardware to show for it. Saben never got them there but a different coach could. I'm guessing Saben is a pretty good coach.

It is your opinion that a 62 year old coach can't get it done here and you are basing that off of what he did at a school with much less to offer recruits than Nebraska.

You're entitled to that opinion but that doesn't make it fact.

Had SabAn- not Saben stayed, he would have built a dynasty at MSU, just like he did at LSU and Bama- this again?

Ok- Saban never had a losing season at MSU, brought them up to a winner and had a 10 win season in his last year of the 5 year resurrection plan- he did it

MSU was very happy with the turnaround Saban engineered at MSU- he was right where he said he would be in year 5

Im very certain he would have had as good or better success at MSU had he stayed- hes shown he will go down in history as one of the all time great college coaches

Lots of NFL and College guys haven't been able to make what they did in college work in the NFL and Vis Versa- I don't think it matters MUCH different equation

If that does matter then I guess Rileys failure at San Diego counts too.

For the love of god, Saban didn't do sh#t at MSU. You really have to be ignorant to continually spew that sh#t out. His record there proves it.

Hard to have a real conversation with someone who claims to have a factual based opinion on Saban- when the other person doesn't even know how to spell the mans name

You've done it a lot, the guys name is Nick Saban- not Saben

If you read or follow college football to any level at all- you probably would have gotten that right

If mom doesn't have a cable outlet in the basement at least ride your skateboard over to the closest bar and watch a few games this season.

He did spell it correctly, so your argument is invalid.

Great job Mod you are really on top of things

Wrong again- this is what he said in just one post" Dantonio is 75 -31 at MSU with a lot more hardware to show for it. Saben never got them there but a different coach could. I'm guessing Saben is a pretty good coach."

You must have missed all the other times he misspelled it before I corrected him- good job by him finally making the switch though

If you follow politics at all you know how to spell Barack Obama

If you follow software at all you know how to spell Larry Ellison

If you follow college football at all- you don't spell Saban Saben a bunch of times

That's why I was offering the advice on him getting on cable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqwAXk8c2Ew

 

[Hedley Lamarr]

I didn't realize Miles was the HC at Colorado and Michigan.

If you want past success. Riley won two grey cups actually as a HC. Bo won an NC as a coordinator. Where did that put him as an HC?

Nick Saben was 34-24-1 with his best year being 2nd in the conference and he never won a bowl game at MSU before he went to LSU and won an NC 4 years later.

Dantonio is 75 -31 at MSU with a lot more hardware to show for it. Saben never got them there but a different coach could. I'm guessing Saben is a pretty good coach.

It is your opinion that a 62 year old coach can't get it done here and you are basing that off of what he did at a school with much less to offer recruits than Nebraska.

You're entitled to that opinion but that doesn't make it fact.

Had SabAn- not Saben stayed, he would have built a dynasty at MSU, just like he did at LSU and Bama- this again?Ok- Saban never had a losing season at MSU, brought them up to a winner and had a 10 win season in his last year of the 5 year resurrection plan- he did it

MSU was very happy with the turnaround Saban engineered at MSU- he was right where he said he would be in year 5

Im very certain he would have had as good or better success at MSU had he stayed- hes shown he will go down in history as one of the all time great college coaches

Lots of NFL and College guys haven't been able to make what they did in college work in the NFL and Vis Versa- I don't think it matters MUCH different equation

If that does matter then I guess Rileys failure at San Diego counts too.

For the love of god, Saban didn't do sh#t at MSU. You really have to be ignorant to continually spew that sh#t out. His record there proves it.

Hard to have a real conversation with someone who claims to have a factual based opinion on Saban- when the other person doesn't even know how to spell the mans nameYou've done it a lot, the guys name is Nick Saban- not Saben

If you read or follow college football to any level at all- you probably would have gotten that right

If mom doesn't have a cable outlet in the basement at least ride your skateboard over to the closest bar and watch a few games this season.

He did spell it correctly, so your argument is invalid.

Great job Mod you are really on top of thingsWrong again- this is what he said in just one post" Dantonio is 75 -31 at MSU with a lot more hardware to show for it. Saben never got them there but a different coach could. I'm guessing Saben is a pretty good coach."

You must have missed all the other times he misspelled it before I corrected him- good job by him finally making the switch

If you follow politics at all you know how to spell Barack Obama

If you follow software at all you know how to spell Larry Ellison

If you follow college football at all- you don't spell Saban Saben a bunch of times

If you follow college football you

No need for this post man. Considering most people struggled spelling Bo's last name of Pellllini

 

[HuskerExpat]

I didn't realize Miles was the HC at Colorado and Michigan.

If you want past success. Riley won two grey cups actually as a HC. Bo won an NC as a coordinator. Where did that put him as an HC?

Nick Saben was 34-24-1 with his best year being 2nd in the conference and he never won a bowl game at MSU before he went to LSU and won an NC 4 years later.

Dantonio is 75 -31 at MSU with a lot more hardware to show for it. Saben never got them there but a different coach could. I'm guessing Saben is a pretty good coach.

It is your opinion that a 62 year old coach can't get it done here and you are basing that off of what he did at a school with much less to offer recruits than Nebraska.

You're entitled to that opinion but that doesn't make it fact.

Had SabAn- not Saben stayed, he would have built a dynasty at MSU, just like he did at LSU and Bama- this again?

Ok- Saban never had a losing season at MSU, brought them up to a winner and had a 10 win season in his last year of the 5 year resurrection plan- he did it

MSU was very happy with the turnaround Saban engineered at MSU- he was right where he said he would be in year 5

Im very certain he would have had as good or better success at MSU had he stayed- hes shown he will go down in history as one of the all time great college coaches

Lots of NFL and College guys haven't been able to make what they did in college work in the NFL and Vis Versa- I don't think it matters MUCH different equation

If that does matter then I guess Rileys failure at San Diego counts too.

You're sure certain of a lot of unknown things, but only when they support your pre-established bias. Weird....or not.

Yeah Im sure none of the great football minds of the world would think Nick Saban would have continued his upward and consistent path of success at MSU

Hes only in the top 10 all time of College Coaches- that's crazy talk, no way he does that, longshot at best

Heck, he couldn't carry Mark Dantonios jock strap Im guessing they would be saying

He got lucky at MSU, LSU and Bama- flash in the pan

No way he does an Urban Meyer and crushes it at every stop

I know several MSU fans who were happy to see Saban go. He had one acceptable year that included a couple of embarrassing losses. There was no "five year plan" as you have argued. He quit because he wanted more money and MSU wouldn't match his offer.

Maybe he would have converted MSU to a champion if he would have stayed, maybe he wouldn't. The point is that we don't know. Almost every head coach who has had success and multiple HC jobs, including Saban, have struggled at one or more stops (the ONE exception being Urban Meyer). And more times then not, the school where they struggle doesn't have the resources to compete, or even just a history of success. And guess what, MSU in the 90s was not invested in its football program. They didn't start sinking resources into the program until the big money started rolling in over the last 10 to 12 years. So comparing the state of the program under Dantonio vs. Saban is comparing apples to oranges.

That's the point most people here are making. Those in the business of college football think a lot of Riley (Alabama offered him Saban's job and USC courted him for HC too). The fact that he didn't thrive at Oregon St. isn't exactly determinative of his success at a program that is at the top of the heap in terms of resources and history. If you can't see that, then you don't know nearly as much about college football as you profess to know. If you won't admit it, then that's a different issue.

The resources, etc., don't guarantee success, obviously, but to imply that it is just as easy to win at Oregon St. as Nebraska doesn't make much sense.

 

[HuskerExpat]

And a big reason Saban left, was because he didn't think he could build a dynasty at MSU because of the state of the program.

"At Michigan State, we were never No. 1," Saban said. "That was always Michigan. It was always U-M this or that.

"If I'd gone to Ohio it would have been Ohio State. Indiana, it is Purdue. Chicago, it's every other school in the Big Ten. Wherever you go you're looking at someone else when you're recruiting, trying to catch up, trying to convince someone you're up there." Link

So you use Saban as proof of your argument, but Saban's own words refute that very argument. He felt like he'd never be able to get out of the shadow of Michigan to compete so he had to go somewhere else to be a real competitor and that's what he did. Why can't you accept that as a possibility under the current circumstances?

 

[kchusker_chris]

 

[jmfb]

I didn't realize Miles was the HC at Colorado and Michigan.

If you want past success. Riley won two grey cups actually as a HC. Bo won an NC as a coordinator. Where did that put him as an HC?

Nick Saben was 34-24-1 with his best year being 2nd in the conference and he never won a bowl game at MSU before he went to LSU and won an NC 4 years later.

Dantonio is 75 -31 at MSU with a lot more hardware to show for it. Saben never got them there but a different coach could. I'm guessing Saben is a pretty good coach.

It is your opinion that a 62 year old coach can't get it done here and you are basing that off of what he did at a school with much less to offer recruits than Nebraska.

You're entitled to that opinion but that doesn't make it fact.

Had SabAn- not Saben stayed, he would have built a dynasty at MSU, just like he did at LSU and Bama- this again?

Ok- Saban never had a losing season at MSU, brought them up to a winner and had a 10 win season in his last year of the 5 year resurrection plan- he did it

MSU was very happy with the turnaround Saban engineered at MSU- he was right where he said he would be in year 5

Im very certain he would have had as good or better success at MSU had he stayed- hes shown he will go down in history as one of the all time great college coaches

Lots of NFL and College guys haven't been able to make what they did in college work in the NFL and Vis Versa- I don't think it matters MUCH different equation

If that does matter then I guess Rileys failure at San Diego counts too.

For the love of god, Saban didn't do sh#t at MSU. You really have to be ignorant to continually spew that sh#t out. His record there proves it.

Yes, it does prove he did a great job- significant improvement, never a losing season, 10 wins in the last year of his 5 year plan and doubling his salary to go to LSU- very nice run up to his 4 National Championships

 

[Saunders]

Great job Mod you are really on top of things





Wrong again- this is what he said in just one post" Dantonio is 75 -31 at MSU with a lot more hardware to show for it. Saben never got them there but a different coach could. I'm guessing Saben is a pretty good coach."

You must have missed all the other times he misspelled it before I corrected him- good job by him finally making the switch though

If you follow politics at all you know how to spell Barack Obama

If you follow software at all you know how to spell Larry Ellison

If you follow college football at all- you don't spell Saban Saben a bunch of times

That's why I was offering the advice on him getting on cable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqwAXk8c2Ew

Actually.... you're talking about 2 different posters, BRB and Stumpy1.

I didn't realize Miles was the HC at Colorado and Michigan.

If you want past success. Riley won two grey cups actually as a HC. Bo won an NC as a coordinator. Where did that put him as an HC?

Nick Saben was 34-24-1 with his best year being 2nd in the conference and he never won a bowl game at MSU before he went to LSU and won an NC 4 years later.

Dantonio is 75 -31 at MSU with a lot more hardware to show for it. Saben never got them there but a different coach could. I'm guessing Saben is a pretty good coach.

It is your opinion that a 62 year old coach can't get it done here and you are basing that off of what he did at a school with much less to offer recruits than Nebraska.

You're entitled to that opinion but that doesn't make it fact.

Had SabAn- not Saben stayed, he would have built a dynasty at MSU, just like he did at LSU and Bama- this again?

Ok- Saban never had a losing season at MSU, brought them up to a winner and had a 10 win season in his last year of the 5 year resurrection plan- he did it

MSU was very happy with the turnaround Saban engineered at MSU- he was right where he said he would be in year 5

Im very certain he would have had as good or better success at MSU had he stayed- hes shown he will go down in history as one of the all time great college coaches

Lots of NFL and College guys haven't been able to make what they did in college work in the NFL and Vis Versa- I don't think it matters MUCH different equation

If that does matter then I guess Rileys failure at San Diego counts too.

For the love of god, Saban didn't do sh#t at MSU. You really have to be ignorant to continually spew that sh#t out. His record there proves it.

If you're going to be condescending to everyone, at least get your facts right. That said, I suggest you cool it with the know it all routine. Your act is wearing extremely thin.

 

[jmfb]

I didn't realize Miles was the HC at Colorado and Michigan.

If you want past success. Riley won two grey cups actually as a HC. Bo won an NC as a coordinator. Where did that put him as an HC?

Nick Saben was 34-24-1 with his best year being 2nd in the conference and he never won a bowl game at MSU before he went to LSU and won an NC 4 years later.

Dantonio is 75 -31 at MSU with a lot more hardware to show for it. Saben never got them there but a different coach could. I'm guessing Saben is a pretty good coach.

It is your opinion that a 62 year old coach can't get it done here and you are basing that off of what he did at a school with much less to offer recruits than Nebraska.

You're entitled to that opinion but that doesn't make it fact.

Had SabAn- not Saben stayed, he would have built a dynasty at MSU, just like he did at LSU and Bama- this again?Ok- Saban never had a losing season at MSU, brought them up to a winner and had a 10 win season in his last year of the 5 year resurrection plan- he did it

MSU was very happy with the turnaround Saban engineered at MSU- he was right where he said he would be in year 5

Im very certain he would have had as good or better success at MSU had he stayed- hes shown he will go down in history as one of the all time great college coaches

Lots of NFL and College guys haven't been able to make what they did in college work in the NFL and Vis Versa- I don't think it matters MUCH different equation

If that does matter then I guess Rileys failure at San Diego counts too.

For the love of god, Saban didn't do sh#t at MSU. You really have to be ignorant to continually spew that sh#t out. His record there proves it.

Hard to have a real conversation with someone who claims to have a factual based opinion on Saban- when the other person doesn't even know how to spell the mans nameYou've done it a lot, the guys name is Nick Saban- not Saben

If you read or follow college football to any level at all- you probably would have gotten that right

If mom doesn't have a cable outlet in the basement at least ride your skateboard over to the closest bar and watch a few games this season.

He did spell it correctly, so your argument is invalid.

Great job Mod you are really on top of thingsWrong again- this is what he said in just one post" Dantonio is 75 -31 at MSU with a lot more hardware to show for it. Saben never got them there but a different coach could. I'm guessing Saben is a pretty good coach."

You must have missed all the other times he misspelled it before I corrected him- good job by him finally making the switch

If you follow politics at all you know how to spell Barack Obama

If you follow software at all you know how to spell Larry Ellison

If you follow college football at all- you don't spell Saban Saben a bunch of times

If you follow college football you

No need for this post man. Considering most people struggled spelling Bo's last name of Pellllini

Well I would have to disagree with that

If someone wants to debate a subject and claims to have a bunch of knowledge about it- one would think they would be able to SPELL the subject being discussed

Goes to credibility

I can see why guys like Harbaugh has a tough time suffering fools like Cowherd who know all the buzz words but not much under the surface

If the guy needs help getting $$ for cable, heck lets do a fundraiser or someone offer to hire him to clean their pool or something like that

 

[NUance]

I didn't realize Miles was the HC at Colorado and Michigan.

If you want past success. Riley won two grey cups actually as a HC. Bo won an NC as a coordinator. Where did that put him as an HC?

Nick Saben was 34-24-1 with his best year being 2nd in the conference and he never won a bowl game at MSU before he went to LSU and won an NC 4 years later.

Dantonio is 75 -31 at MSU with a lot more hardware to show for it. Saben never got them there but a different coach could. I'm guessing Saben is a pretty good coach.

It is your opinion that a 62 year old coach can't get it done here and you are basing that off of what he did at a school with much less to offer recruits than Nebraska.

You're entitled to that opinion but that doesn't make it fact.

Had SabAn- not Saben stayed, he would have built a dynasty at MSU, just like he did at LSU and Bama- this again?Ok- Saban never had a losing season at MSU, brought them up to a winner and had a 10 win season in his last year of the 5 year resurrection plan- he did it

MSU was very happy with the turnaround Saban engineered at MSU- he was right where he said he would be in year 5

Im very certain he would have had as good or better success at MSU had he stayed- hes shown he will go down in history as one of the all time great college coaches

Lots of NFL and College guys haven't been able to make what they did in college work in the NFL and Vis Versa- I don't think it matters MUCH different equation

If that does matter then I guess Rileys failure at San Diego counts too.

For the love of god, Saban didn't do sh#t at MSU. You really have to be ignorant to continually spew that sh#t out. His record there proves it.

Hard to have a real conversation with someone who claims to have a factual based opinion on Saban- when the other person doesn't even know how to spell the mans nameYou've done it a lot, the guys name is Nick Saban- not Saben

If you read or follow college football to any level at all- you probably would have gotten that right

If mom doesn't have a cable outlet in the basement at least ride your skateboard over to the closest bar and watch a few games this season.

He did spell it correctly, so your argument is invalid.

Great job Mod you are really on top of thingsWrong again- this is what he said in just one post" Dantonio is 75 -31 at MSU with a lot more hardware to show for it. Saben never got them there but a different coach could. I'm guessing Saben is a pretty good coach."

You must have missed all the other times he misspelled it before I corrected him- good job by him finally making the switch

If you follow politics at all you know how to spell Barack Obama

If you follow software at all you know how to spell Larry Ellison

If you follow college football at all- you don't spell Saban Saben a bunch of times

If you follow college football you

No need for this post man. Considering most people struggled spelling Bo's last name of Pellllini

Well I would have to disagree with that

If someone wants to debate a subject and claims to have a bunch of knowledge about it- one would think they would be able to SPELL the subject being discussed

Goes to credibility

I can see why guys like Harbaugh has a tough time suffering fools like Cowherd who know all the buzz words but not much under the surface

If the guy needs help getting $$ for cable, heck lets do a fundraiser or someone offer to hire him to clean their pool or something like that

What about punctuation? Is credibility diminished due to poor punctuation?

 

[Saunders]

The fact that you are latching onto his misspelling of Saban when you don't use punctuation or paragraphs tells me you don't have a counter argument and are nitpicking in order to discredit his opinion. It's a classic ad hominem tactic.

 

[skersfan]

A F___ING MEN!

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