Banker = Cosgrove

[wanderful]

Kill is well-respected but there's nothing about his record that pops.

If you don't think anything pops about his W/L progression at MiniHaHa, I suggest you ignore Riley's record at OSU during the same timeframe.

Don't be argumentative just to be so. The idea that Kill is somehow a better option than Riley is opinion at best and isn't well-supported by the evidence at hand when you consider their entire careers, not just cherry-picked data that fits a tailored argument.

Fair or not, his health concerns are one of his biggest drawbacks, and even if he wanted to move on to a bigger program, it may hold him back.

All that said, who cares in the first place? We have Coach Riley and he's been given an opportunity here, and after four games, some of you would rather talk about coulda, woulda, shoulda's. Get a grip and grow up. Do some of you jump ship this easily with other aspects of your life? It's like some fans have a plinko board to determine their mood for the day.

 

[Mavric]

I thought Riley was had this incredible eye for talent. Why would he even take this job if the talent level was so poor?

Seriously, "poor talent level" is not a good excuse for Riley's performance.

Riley said he was shocked when he looked at the depth chart the day after he was hired.

Link?

If I had the ability to do a nexus search for all the articles quoting Riley over the last 13 months, I would. Or I could do like Saunders does and just say, I heard it from somebody....

C'mon mr "facts, stats, and videos" let's see a source. I even tried searching those terms via google and came up dry. So, let's see it.

I saw Riley say this too, actually. It was in one of his recent press conferences. Maybe the Monday one following Southern Miss? Can't remember for sure, and I didn't see it written in any article, but he definitely said recently that they were shocked when they looked at the lack of depth in certain positions on the depth chart the day after he took the job.

Pretty sure Riley did say that but it was in the context of the Linebackers, not the entire team. They've also said they have a lot of talent to work with at several positions, particularly offensive line and defensive back.

 

[Saunders]

I thought Riley was had this incredible eye for talent. Why would he even take this job if the talent level was so poor?

Seriously, "poor talent level" is not a good excuse for Riley's performance.

Riley said he was shocked when he looked at the depth chart the day after he was hired.

Link?

If I had the ability to do a nexus search for all the articles quoting Riley over the last 13 months, I would. Or I could do like Saunders does and just say, I heard it from somebody....

C'mon mr "facts, stats, and videos" let's see a source. I even tried searching those terms via google and came up dry. So, let's see it.

I saw Riley say this too, actually. It was in one of his recent press conferences. Maybe the Monday one following Southern Miss? Can't remember for sure, and I didn't see it written in any article, but he definitely said recently that they were shocked when they looked at the lack of depth in certain positions on the depth chart the day after he took the job.

Pretty sure Riley did say that but it was in the context of the Linebackers, not the entire team. They've also said they have a lot of talent to work with at several positions, particularly offensive line and defensive back.

Yeah, this is what was actually said, and it was a while ago (like, the spring). He also went on the comment regarding the fact that they had enough depth across the board that it allowed them to do the split practices, and get more reps for everyone.

 

[TheSker]

Furthermore, you mentioned up above that his seizures haven't been an issue. They haven't? He's missed multiple games because of them and has had two seizures during actual games. As much as I respect Kill, and as nice as it is to hear he's been seizure free for some time, his health problems have been a major concern to the point where he thought about retiring.

I was referring to the time since taking his leave to get them under control. I'm very very familiar with Kill since his time in Pittsburg KS/Webb City MO.

 

[MichiganDad3]

I do not understand the notion that some coaches would never consider Nebraska. What is in Tuscaloosa? Besides being closer to high population areas, Tuscaloosa is in the middle of nowhere. Saben was lured there by a big paycheck. Nebraska should have been able to make Patterson a very well payed coach. Given that and our facilities, it is would have been worth trying to lure him here. We went after MR, even though he spurned USC. If we want to be the best, we have to pursue the best coaches and recruits. If we give up without trying we are doomed. Below is a list of bad assumptions made by experts. It gives you something to think about.

Simon Newcomb (1835-1909), the leading US astronomer of his time and a professor of astronomy and mathematics, declared that flight by heavier-than-air objects was completely impossible. After the Wright brothers made their first flights he still claimed that airplanes were impractical and worthless.

Ernst Werner von Siemens (1816-1892), the great German engineer who developed the telegraph industry and founded the company bearing his name, declared, 'Electric light will never take the place of gas.'

Charles Duell was Commissioner at the US Patents Office who in 1899 gave his opinion that, 'Everything that can be invented has been invented.'

Ernest Rutherford (1871-1937) was the eminent British physicist who pioneered nuclear physics, discovered the alpha particle and developed the nuclear theory of atomic structure. He refused to believe that nuclear energy could be harnessed and described ideas for nuclear power as 'moonshine'.

Lord Kelvin (1824-1907) was a distinguished British mathematician and physicist who developed the law of conservation of energy. The Kelvin scale of absolute temperature is named after him. He scoffed at the idea of radio and stated, 'Radio has no future.' He also said, 'X-rays will prove to be a hoax.'

In 1927, H.M Warner of Warner Brothers asked, 'Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?'

Irving Fisher was Professor of Economics at Yale University. In 1929 he pronounced, 'Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau.'

Dr Albert Einstein said in 1932, 'There is not the slightest indication that nuclear energy will ever be obtainable.'

Admiral William Leahy (1875-1959) told President Truman in 1945, 'The atomic bomb will not go off and I speak as an expert in explosives.'

Rex Lambert, Editor of The Listener, wrote in 1936, 'Television won't matter in your lifetime or mine.'

John Langdon-Davies, fellow of the Royal Anthropological Institute opined in 1936, 'By 1960 work will be limited to three hours a day.'

Sir Richard Woolley was the British Astronomer-Royal who declared in 1956 that, 'Space travel is utter bilge.

H.G. Wells (1866-1946) the eminent British author and one of the first science fiction writers said in 1902, 'I refuse to see any sort of submarine doing anything except suffocating its crew and floundering at sea.'

General Douglas Haig (1861 -1928) the commander of the British Army in WWI said in 1914 of the machine gun, 'Make no mistake, this weapon will change absolutely nothing.'

Don Rowe was the director of Decca Records who turned down the Beatles. He said to their promoter, Brian Epstein, 'We don't like your boys' sound. Groups of guitarists are on the way out.'

Frank Sinatra in 1957 stated, 'Rock and Roll is phony. It's sung, written and played by cretinous goons.'

Ken Olson, CEO of DEC said in 1977, 'There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home.'

 

[MichiganDad3]

Banker should study the Michigan D. Through 3 quarters Maryland has zero points, 69 yards passing and 25 yards rushing. They shut out BYU and held them to 55 yards passing and 50 yards rushing.

Edit

Maryland finished with 76 yards passing and 30 rushing numbers. That is 106 yards total offense, and only 105 total yards to BYU. Spectacular. Oh how I miss the punishing blackshirts of the 90s.

 

[Mavric]

I do not understand the notion that some coaches would never consider Nebraska.

It depends on the situation. When you talk about firing a coach that people don't like, we could just about get anyone in the country. When people want to defend the guy we got, no one would want to come here.

 

[TheSker]

Banker should study the Michigan D. Through 3 quarters Maryland has zero points, 69 yards passing and 25 yards rushing. They shut out BYU and held them to 55 yards passing and 50 yards rushing.

Harbaugh has done an excellent job. And quickly. Running game and defense. Oh man, that defense......

 

[wanderful]

I thought Riley was had this incredible eye for talent. Why would he even take this job if the talent level was so poor?

Seriously, "poor talent level" is not a good excuse for Riley's performance.

Riley said he was shocked when he looked at the depth chart the day after he was hired.

Link?

If I had the ability to do a nexus search for all the articles quoting Riley over the last 13 months, I would. Or I could do like Saunders does and just say, I heard it from somebody....

C'mon mr "facts, stats, and videos" let's see a source. I even tried searching those terms via google and came up dry. So, let's see it.

I saw Riley say this too, actually. It was in one of his recent press conferences. Maybe the Monday one following Southern Miss? Can't remember for sure, and I didn't see it written in any article, but he definitely said recently that they were shocked when they looked at the lack of depth in certain positions on the depth chart the day after he took the job.

Pretty sure Riley did say that but it was in the context of the Linebackers, not the entire team. They've also said they have a lot of talent to work with at several positions, particularly offensive line and defensive back.

Yeah, this is what was actually said, and it was a while ago (like, the spring). He also went on the comment regarding the fact that they had enough depth across the board that it allowed them to do the split practices, and get more reps for everyone.

He said that then, too, but the quote Radar was talking about is more recent, within the last couple of weeks. I'm not going to look for it today (game day, woot!), but I'll look for it tomorrow or Monday. Not sure I'll be able to find it, though -- one of the downsides to having a coach that is actually open to the media is that you have to go through hours of footage looking for the quote you heard. Better than the other option, though!

 

[Haspula]

Wrong thread

 

[Saunders]

So, was talent to blame for this one?

 

[Redux]

ColoradoHusk and Saunders should appologize to Beck and Cosgrove for comparing them to Langsdorf and Banker.

 

[It'sNotAFakeID]

No, this wasn't necessarily a game we lost [majorly] because of defense. Yeah, the play that set them up for the GW TD was a product of the defense, but you'd have to wonder if that would've even happened had there been less time on the clock.

 

[MichiganDad3]

I need to watch the game again, but my first thought was that the D was improved today. Giving up 14 point is not bad. On the other hand, Illinois seemed to make some dumb plays, dropped several passes, and QB missed some wide open receivers.

 

[MichiganDad3]

I thought Riley was had this incredible eye for talent. Why would he even take this job if the talent level was so poor?

Seriously, "poor talent level" is not a good excuse for Riley's performance.

Riley said he was shocked when he looked at the depth chart the day after he was hired.

Link?

Then shame on him. He should have checked before he was hired.