too bad that coach also managed to alienate most the fans, administration, and even some of his players during that run or he would still be coaching here.I'll add that replacing 27-22 coach who posted two losing seasons during 4 seasons and had an overall losing record in conference play with a .700+ coach who went 38-17 in conference play is another successful coach chosen.
You just can't help it can you?I'll add that replacing 27-22 coach who posted two losing seasons during 4 seasons and had an overall losing record in conference play with a .700+ coach who went 38-17 in conference play is another successful coach chosen.
Solich was 59/60 when he was fired. That year and the next, there were very "major college" options open, so he took a job that was a good geographic fit for him and his family. And somewhere that he had the opportunity to build something, a stated desire for him.I would think that if Solich was a great coach outside of riding TO's coattails for a few years he would have got another crack at major college football at some point.
Depends on what the coeds there are like...Solich was 59/60 when he was fired. That year and the next, there were very "major college" options open, so he took a job that was a good geographic fit for him and his family. And somewhere that he had the opportunity to build something, a stated desire for him.I would think that if Solich was a great coach outside of riding TO's coattails for a few years he would have got another crack at major college football at some point.
Most major programs don't hire coaches who are close to drawing social security, at least for the first time, for obvious reasons having little to do with coaching prowess. That was especially true in the early to mid-2000s where a serious youth movement was afoot.
Looking back at the list of p5 hires between '04 and '05, I imagine many ADs are kicking themselves (usually in the unemployment line).
P.S. We don't really even know if he's gotten interest that he's turned down during that time. Would he leave what he has in Athens for a bottom 1/3 p5 school? I wouldn't.
For the record I liked Solich. But Frank liked the power the job gave him too much. He let too many things go unattended to. His record was what we want to get back to now. It was beyond the record and you know that, whether you choose to believe that stuff or not is up to you. But lets stop pretending record was why he was fired.It's called a discussion. People complain that TO can't pick coaches. The opposite appears true, based on actual evidence.
Even coach Riley agrees.
That's kind of a lame excuse.Solich was 59/60 when he was fired. That year and the next, there were very "major college" options open, so he took a job that was a good geographic fit for him and his family. And somewhere that he had the opportunity to build something, a stated desire for him.I would think that if Solich was a great coach outside of riding TO's coattails for a few years he would have got another crack at major college football at some point.
Most major programs don't hire coaches who are close to drawing social security, at least for the first time, for obvious reasons having little to do with coaching prowess. That was especially true in the early to mid-2000s where a serious youth movement was afoot.
Looking back at the list of p5 hires between '04 and '05, I imagine many ADs are kicking themselves (usually in the unemployment line).
P.S. We don't really even know if he's gotten interest that he's turned down during that time. Would he leave what he has in Athens for a bottom 1/3 p5 school? I wouldn't.
You spew this web spinning and it's okay, yet when the optimists start talking up the great recruiting efforts you instantly jump all over it saying it's not any better than Frank Solich recruiting.Solich was 59/60 when he was fired. That year and the next, there were very "major college" options open, so he took a job that was a good geographic fit for him and his family. And somewhere that he had the opportunity to build something, a stated desire for him.I would think that if Solich was a great coach outside of riding TO's coattails for a few years he would have got another crack at major college football at some point.
Most major programs don't hire coaches who are close to drawing social security, at least for the first time, for obvious reasons having little to do with coaching prowess. That was especially true in the early to mid-2000s where a serious youth movement was afoot.
Looking back at the list of p5 hires between '04 and '05, I imagine many ADs are kicking themselves (usually in the unemployment line).
P.S. We don't really even know if he's gotten interest that he's turned down during that time. Would he leave what he has in Athens for a bottom 1/3 p5 school? I wouldn't.
Even if Bo Pelini's '09 squad wins that Texas game and gives us a trophy, Bo still gets canned for calling ADSE a *****.I love how when we fire coaches for not winning championships or "the games that matter", which were all explicitly stated by the responsible ADs, we like to pretend it's based on some rumor or innuendo.
We know that's a fiction, because if said coach had won a championship, he wouldn't have been fired.
And if they really did want to fire those coaches for supposed off the field issues that justified termination, they are hypocritical, sellouts who have no integrity if they wouldn't have pulled that trigger no matter what.
Is that why he was fired?Even if Bo Pelini's '09 squad wins that Texas game and gives us a trophy, Bo still gets canned for calling ADSE a *****.I love how when we fire coaches for not winning championships or "the games that matter", which were all explicitly stated by the responsible ADs, we like to pretend it's based on some rumor or innuendo.
We know that's a fiction, because if said coach had won a championship, he wouldn't have been fired.
And if they really did want to fire those coaches for supposed off the field issues that justified termination, they are hypocritical, sellouts who have no integrity if they wouldn't have pulled that trigger no matter what.
How many P5 schools have hired a 62+ year old coach during the past 20 years?You spew this web spinning and it's okay, yet when the optimists start talking up the great recruiting efforts you instantly jump all over it saying it's not any better than Frank Solich recruiting.Solich was 59/60 when he was fired. That year and the next, there were very "major college" options open, so he took a job that was a good geographic fit for him and his family. And somewhere that he had the opportunity to build something, a stated desire for him. Most major programs don't hire coaches who are close to drawing social security, at least for the first time, for obvious reasons having little to do with coaching prowess. That was especially true in the early to mid-2000s where a serious youth movement was afoot.I would think that if Solich was a great coach outside of riding TO's coattails for a few years he would have got another crack at major college football at some point.
Looking back at the list of p5 hires between '04 and '05, I imagine many ADs are kicking themselves (usually in the unemployment line).
P.S. We don't really even know if he's gotten interest that he's turned down during that time. Would he leave what he has in Athens for a bottom 1/3 p5 school? I wouldn't.
The point is Bo butting heads with ADSE is what got him canned, don't act like you don't know what I'm talking about.Is that why he was fired?Even if Bo Pelini's '09 squad wins that Texas game and gives us a trophy, Bo still gets canned for calling ADSE a *****.I love how when we fire coaches for not winning championships or "the games that matter", which were all explicitly stated by the responsible ADs, we like to pretend it's based on some rumor or innuendo.
We know that's a fiction, because if said coach had won a championship, he wouldn't have been fired.
And if they really did want to fire those coaches for supposed off the field issues that justified termination, they are hypocritical, sellouts who have no integrity if they wouldn't have pulled that trigger no matter what.
That is a reversal of chronology I hadn't heard before.