OWH: Outgoing UNL Chancellor Harvey Perlman leaves with unmet goal: Huskers’ return to top

[Red Dead Redemption]

You think the west is tougher today? Really?

Iowa went 12-0.They got rings and everything.

I mean, look at who they beat.

Oh.....

 

[cm husker]

If you think that the B10, and especially the west, is tougher today than when we joined, I have a bridge to sell you.

Do you even watch football?

The B10W was as down as it's been. The east had two solid teams and a pretender.

This year, the B10, and especially the West, will be even further down.

 

[wanderful]

I simply stated that I didn't hear it during my conversations. Though I never projected a self-hatred over the issue. So maybe people didn't feel the need to engage on the point.

Lol, you've made some gigantic assumptions about me and my personality, but I suppose ad hominem attacks are all that remain in your arsenal at this point.

The point remains, Bo's behavior and the team regularly crumpling like a paper bag were regular topics of discussion in the college football world because it made for nice and juicy television. People like conflict and controversy. The national media would regularly cover his behavior, so of course people talked about it.

Bo was a good coach, especially when he was directly coaching the defense. But his behavior regularly overshadowed his coaching skills.

 

[StPaulHusker]

If you think that the B10, and especially the west, is tougher today than when we joined, I have a bridge to sell you.

Do you even watch football?

The B10W was as down as it's been. The east had two solid teams and a pretender.

This year, the B10, and especially the West, will be even further down.

This is a joke, right? You just want to troll everyone.

 

[Saunders]

If you think that the B10, and especially the west, is tougher today than when we joined, I have a bridge to sell you.

Our division is easier, but the conference as a whole is markedly better than 2011.

 

[Redux]

Nebraska fans, like 90% of P5 fans and 99% of all other fans, need to come to grips with the reality that we will likely never win another NC.

Chasing that ring is more likely to lead to sub .500 seasons than division and conf titles.

I think if TO had stayed as AD, Bo would still be here and we would have won 10 or 12 games this past season. And we'd be in a better spot today than we are currently in terms of pulling off a conf championship.

Problem is, and I think it will lead NU to become truly mediocre, that sort of result isn't good enough for most fans.

He is seriously preaching that we are going to become more mediocre at the same time he is saying we should have stayed the course with Bo to become more mediocre.

You can't make this stuff up folks.

 

[cm husker]

The youth of today display a striking lack of reading comprehension.

 

[Red Five]

It's amusing to me that Perlman would invoke respect for Osborne's legacy while also justifying the idiocy of firing Frank in '03 and later Bo for "not winning the games that matter."

Well, Bo absolutely did not win the games that mattered so what's your point?
Yea Frank probably should not have been fired, but how can anyone still defend Bo? He told you to go F*ck yourself. Bo was an embarrassment, he had a terrible petulant temper, and he could not win the games that mattered.

Harvey's greatest achievement was Sh*t canning ole BO. I commend Harvey for that endeavor.

I don't think Bo ever said "Throwing Bones, go ____ yourself." But maybe I missed that Omaha/Journalstar article.

Obviously he didn't use your HB name, or your RL name but he did tell the fans to go F themselves, and if you're a fan (I'm assuming you are since you are here posting) that applies to you as well.

He told fans who booed his players to go f#*k themselves. And I echo his sentiments.

The fans should cheer the team off the field at halftime every time. It doesn't matter that we were down 20-6 and being outgained 246 to 117 by an unranked team. Or that NU was coming off a game the week before where they were beat down 48-17.

And if I had to guess, I would say the boos were aimed at Bo and staff.

I know you want to rationalize it all away, but in reality those fans started booing when TM came back in (not unlike what happened to Frost at one point). They had ripped him all week. Very harshly. To the extent that guys like Burkhead felt the need to speak out in his defense.
There's a big difference between booing and simply sitting silently.

That's why I'll never blame players much for a "us against them" attitude. Husker fans can be among the harshest out there when it comes to criticizing their own. Probably because so many have a sense of entitlement related to a self aggrandizement about being the best in the country. Who knows.

Huh? Where did TM go in the OSU game that he had to come back in? Do you mean he was booed when he started the game?

Booed when he was sent back out for a series in the second quarter.
I recommend you simply educate yourself on this topic. The reports are there outlining it.

Please show me where Taylor was booed in the 2Q. I was at the game. I don't recall it.

It's on YouTube I'm sure. It was immediately after he threw an interception as he came off the field. That's when Bo gave his famous card wave at the booers.

Yup. There were grumbles after he threw that pick with :15 in the 2Q. Nebraska didn't run another play in the 2Q after that, so he couldn't have been booed when he came back out in the 2Q. And he wasn't booed when he came back out to start the 3Q.

 

[cm husker]

.700+ with three division titles in 7 years is not mediocre. It's very good, but not great.

How do we know this? Because if Bo had won 2 of those games and any other 2 games against top 15 competition, he would have had one of the best starts by a first time HC ever.

The step between mediocre and elite is not a handful of games.

Mediocre is career .500. Mediocre is 6 losses, including two to awful programs.

I keep hoping the Internet husker fan will learn the meaning of words. But it's getting tougher to maintain the faith.

 

[cm husker]

It's amusing to me that Perlman would invoke respect for Osborne's legacy while also justifying the idiocy of firing Frank in '03 and later Bo for "not winning the games that matter."

Well, Bo absolutely did not win the games that mattered so what's your point?
Yea Frank probably should not have been fired, but how can anyone still defend Bo? He told you to go F*ck yourself. Bo was an embarrassment, he had a terrible petulant temper, and he could not win the games that mattered.

Harvey's greatest achievement was Sh*t canning ole BO. I commend Harvey for that endeavor.

I don't think Bo ever said "Throwing Bones, go ____ yourself." But maybe I missed that Omaha/Journalstar article.

Obviously he didn't use your HB name, or your RL name but he did tell the fans to go F themselves, and if you're a fan (I'm assuming you are since you are here posting) that applies to you as well.

He told fans who booed his players to go f#*k themselves. And I echo his sentiments.

The fans should cheer the team off the field at halftime every time. It doesn't matter that we were down 20-6 and being outgained 246 to 117 by an unranked team. Or that NU was coming off a game the week before where they were beat down 48-17.

And if I had to guess, I would say the boos were aimed at Bo and staff.

I know you want to rationalize it all away, but in reality those fans started booing when TM came back in (not unlike what happened to Frost at one point). They had ripped him all week. Very harshly. To the extent that guys like Burkhead felt the need to speak out in his defense.
There's a big difference between booing and simply sitting silently.

That's why I'll never blame players much for a "us against them" attitude. Husker fans can be among the harshest out there when it comes to criticizing their own. Probably because so many have a sense of entitlement related to a self aggrandizement about being the best in the country. Who knows.

Huh? Where did TM go in the OSU game that he had to come back in? Do you mean he was booed when he started the game?

Booed when he was sent back out for a series in the second quarter.
I recommend you simply educate yourself on this topic. The reports are there outlining it.

Please show me where Taylor was booed in the 2Q. I was at the game. I don't recall it.

It's on YouTube I'm sure. It was immediately after he threw an interception as he came off the field. That's when Bo gave his famous card wave at the booers.

Yup. There were grumbles after he threw that pick with :15 in the 2Q. Nebraska didn't run another play in the 2Q after that, so he couldn't have been booed when he came back out in the 2Q. And he wasn't booed when he came back out to start the 3Q.

"Grumbles"

That's funny. You're a funny guy.

 

[StPaulHusker]

If you think that the B10, and especially the west, is tougher today than when we joined, I have a bridge to sell you.

Our division is easier, but the conference as a whole is markedly better than 2011.

In 2011:

Nebraska was 9-4

Iowa was 7-6

Northwestern was 6-7

Wisconsin was 11-3

Minnesota was 3-9

Purdue was 7-6

Illinois was 7-6

Thats 50-41

This past year:

Nebraska was 6-7

Iowa was 12-2

Northwestern was 10-3

Wisconsin was 10-3

Minnesota was 6-7

Purdue was 2-10

Illinois was 5-7

Thats 52-39

It appears they were about the same

 

[cm husker]

Account for the fact that NU actually beat those teams in 2011.

 

[Red Five]

It's amusing to me that Perlman would invoke respect for Osborne's legacy while also justifying the idiocy of firing Frank in '03 and later Bo for "not winning the games that matter."

Well, Bo absolutely did not win the games that mattered so what's your point?
Yea Frank probably should not have been fired, but how can anyone still defend Bo? He told you to go F*ck yourself. Bo was an embarrassment, he had a terrible petulant temper, and he could not win the games that mattered.

Harvey's greatest achievement was Sh*t canning ole BO. I commend Harvey for that endeavor.

I don't think Bo ever said "Throwing Bones, go ____ yourself." But maybe I missed that Omaha/Journalstar article.

Obviously he didn't use your HB name, or your RL name but he did tell the fans to go F themselves, and if you're a fan (I'm assuming you are since you are here posting) that applies to you as well.

He told fans who booed his players to go f#*k themselves. And I echo his sentiments.

The fans should cheer the team off the field at halftime every time. It doesn't matter that we were down 20-6 and being outgained 246 to 117 by an unranked team. Or that NU was coming off a game the week before where they were beat down 48-17.

And if I had to guess, I would say the boos were aimed at Bo and staff.

I know you want to rationalize it all away, but in reality those fans started booing when TM came back in (not unlike what happened to Frost at one point). They had ripped him all week. Very harshly. To the extent that guys like Burkhead felt the need to speak out in his defense.
There's a big difference between booing and simply sitting silently.

That's why I'll never blame players much for a "us against them" attitude. Husker fans can be among the harshest out there when it comes to criticizing their own. Probably because so many have a sense of entitlement related to a self aggrandizement about being the best in the country. Who knows.

Huh? Where did TM go in the OSU game that he had to come back in? Do you mean he was booed when he started the game?

Booed when he was sent back out for a series in the second quarter.
I recommend you simply educate yourself on this topic. The reports are there outlining it.

Please show me where Taylor was booed in the 2Q. I was at the game. I don't recall it.

It's on YouTube I'm sure. It was immediately after he threw an interception as he came off the field. That's when Bo gave his famous card wave at the booers.

Yup. There were grumbles after he threw that pick with :15 in the 2Q. Nebraska didn't run another play in the 2Q after that, so he couldn't have been booed when he came back out in the 2Q. And he wasn't booed when he came back out to start the 3Q.

"Grumbles"

That's funny. You're a funny guy.

Thank you!

But I still am not seeing where Taylor was booed when he came back in the game?

 

[StPaulHusker]

Account for the fact that NU actually beat those teams in 2011.

Are you talking about in 2011 when Nebraska lost to Wisconsin and Northwestern? Or 2015 when Nebraska lost to Wisconsin and Northwestern?

 

[Saunders]

If you think that the B10, and especially the west, is tougher today than when we joined, I have a bridge to sell you.

Our division is easier, but the conference as a whole is markedly better than 2011.

In 2011:

Nebraska was 9-4

Iowa was 7-6

Northwestern was 6-7

Wisconsin was 11-3

Minnesota was 3-9

Purdue was 7-6

Illinois was 7-6

Thats 50-41

This past year:

Nebraska was 6-7

Iowa was 12-2

Northwestern was 10-3

Wisconsin was 10-3

Minnesota was 6-7

Purdue was 2-10

Illinois was 5-7

Thats 52-39

It appears they were about the same

The divisional alignments were different in 2011 though. Our current west alignment is way easier than the old Legends division. That absolutely affects the teams records. For instance, 2011 Bucky would have annihilated the 2015 version. Plus, it's almost universally agreed upon that the B1G is much better than it was a few years ago.