Eichorst Statement About Football Program

[throwing bones]

Bo should have been fired, the comments are just funny when paired to comments previously stated during the last coach's tenure. It's a 180 degree shift and there's no argument to say they aren't.

So what? An AD doesn't have the luxury of being able to speak off the cuff. Even before Bo was fired, all Eichorst ever said publicly was in support. You are not allowed to just have open criticism if you're in that position - imagine the online meltdown if Eichorst came out and said, "Yeah, I think we've got enough talent but obviously there's something lacking in the coaching - getting beatdown by Ohio State and Iowa like that was absolutely humiliating and totally unacceptable. Doesn't it suck that we're nowhere further along than when we got rid of Bo? The mediocrity is frustrating."

No matter who it is, you support your team until they aren't your team anymore. Even if that means hypocrisy in reference to the way you supported your team of different people in the past.

Everything is done for a reason at that level. I want to be anonymous and not comment in season when you are in the midst of getting rid of someone that you know is a bad fit. I'm a cheerleader for my guy that i just hired and went 5-7 in the regular season and people are questioning my decision. Hypocrisy is the name of the game, just humorous when it's called out by a reporter.

 

[Landlord]

You'll have to let me know what you're referring to Mav, since the only bits I can find that would relate do not at all seem to be the exact opposite to me:

Q: You're more visible now around the football program. You're on the sideline. You're at practice. That wasn't necessarily the case when Pelini was the head coach. Why the change in your approach?

Eichorst: "I don't know if there was a change in approach. I love the game of football, as you know. We've gone into depth on that. When you transition into incredible positions like at Nebraska, there's a lot of looking, listening and learning to do. I would attribute it more to having a lot of things to do, a lot of people to get to know, more than anything. I now think I know the place a little better than when I first came in, know the people better. That allows me a little more flexibility to get around and to be available."

LJS

By the way, I generally agree with the rest of your previous post. He always has to be careful with what he says so there's not a good way to answer some of the questions.

But it was just two years ago that he explicitly said "we have the talent to win championships" and basically dismissed beating Iowa as not mattering. Now the story is we need a significant talent upgrade. If you're going to make such strong statements previously, it's a pretty bad look to change your tune so quickly. He would have been better served to tone it down earlier unless he was really sure about what he was saying.

I guess I don't see where what he said in your quote has anything to do with him being hands-off or hands-on. As far as the post-Bo-firing comments, I'd say A) beating Iowa didn't really matter much, did it? That team finished 7-6, and the only reason it felt good was because we allowed ourselves to get down 24-7 or whatever it was. That specific Iowa team wasn't good, and I think he was right in his assessment and comments on judging that game accordingly. Otherwise, full transcript quotes are important.

"That is not my expertise, I would hope we do. I see it from a far. I think our coaches have obviously have seen that and that Is why they brought these young men into our program. At the end of the day, I think we have kids in our program that are capable of winning championships."

Is that really that strong of a statement? He's now saying that we're in a good place, on our way, and have work to do. Maybe he was just wrong before, but also, maybe he can't actually say, "Yeah we don't have talent." and this isn't an issue at all when one rationally understands that an AD's job is to spin in favor of the university's coaches and players.

 

[Elf]

I thought he didn't make statements like this during the season.

What a slimy weasel.

Season was over after the Iowa game.

So there is no bowl game tomorrow?

Bowl games are not part of the regular season, and not everyone gets to participate. So, yes, I do consider the season over after our last B1G game of the year.

 

[TheSker]

the same previous coach who said he hated SE from the first time he saw him? the same previous coach who kept it no secret that he hated SE? i wonder why SE didn't go out of his way to support poor little previous coach?

I'm relatively sure Pelini had an idea of the specific reason Eichorst was being brought in. Pelini knew Osborne was being kept at arms length on the replacement AD search.

The struggle with the powers that be started long before Pelini's spittle infused hat swipe. Pelini certainly has his role in how that power struggle was handled, but there are several men in positions above Pelini more responsible for the stagnation of Nebraska football.

It's also another reason we could have trouble finding a great candidate to replace Riley. While Eichorst is wearing his PR suit, Pelini is busy playing for a championship. The coaching fraternity is not dumb.

 

[Elf]

He's now saying that we're in a good place, on our way, and have work to do. Maybe he was just wrong before, but also, maybe he can't actually say, "Yeah we don't have talent." and this isn't an issue at all when one rationally understands that an AD's job is to spin in favor of the university's coaches and players.

When you look at the big picture this makes perfect sense except to those that have a dislike for Eichorst because 1) he fired Bo and 2) he didn't hire someone that runs Tom Osborne's offense. Those people will always nitpick every little thing he does and says.

 

[cornstar]

I thought he didn't make statements like this during the season.

What a slimy weasel.

Season was over after the Iowa game.

So there is no bowl game tomorrow?

Bowl games are not part of the regular season, and not everyone gets to participate. So, yes, I do consider the season over after our last B1G game of the year.

So tomorrow's game doesn't count in the 2016 record and the stats from that game don't either?

Interesting take. Totally wrong but interesting none the less.

 

[Elf]

the same previous coach who said he hated SE from the first time he saw him? the same previous coach who kept it no secret that he hated SE? i wonder why SE didn't go out of his way to support poor little previous coach?

I'm relatively sure Pelini had an idea of the specific reason Eichorst was being brought in. Pelini knew Osborne was being kept at arms length on the replacement AD search.
The struggle with the powers that be started long before Pelini's spittle infused hat swipe. Pelini certainly has his role in how that power struggle was handled, but there are several men in positions above Pelini more responsible for the stagnation of Nebraska football.

It's also another reason we could have trouble finding a great candidate to replace Riley. While Eichorst is wearing his PR suit, Pelini is busy playing for a championship. The coaching fraternity is not dumb.

Rightfully so imo.

Struggles with the powers that be always end up poorly for those lower on the ladder. Always. And if you are doing your job in the proper manner those struggles don't generally happen and when they do happen, doing your job properly can fix them.

 

[cornstar]

the same previous coach who said he hated SE from the first time he saw him? the same previous coach who kept it no secret that he hated SE? i wonder why SE didn't go out of his way to support poor little previous coach?

I'm relatively sure Pelini had an idea of the specific reason Eichorst was being brought in. Pelini knew Osborne was being kept at arms length on the replacement AD search.
The struggle with the powers that be started long before Pelini's spittle infused hat swipe. Pelini certainly has his role in how that power struggle was handled, but there are several men in positions above Pelini more responsible for the stagnation of Nebraska football.

It's also another reason we could have trouble finding a great candidate to replace Riley. While Eichorst is wearing his PR suit, Pelini is busy playing for a championship. The coaching fraternity is not dumb.

Struggles with the powers that be always end up poorly for those lower on the ladder. Always. And if you are doing your job in the proper manner those struggles don't generally happen and when they do happen, doing your job properly can fix them.

Another interesting yet totally untrue take.

Sounds like poor leadership from the top.

 

[Elf]

I thought he didn't make statements like this during the season.

What a slimy weasel.

Season was over after the Iowa game.

So there is no bowl game tomorrow?

Bowl games are not part of the regular season, and not everyone gets to participate. So, yes, I do consider the season over after our last B1G game of the year.

So tomorrow's game doesn't count in the 2016 record and the stats from that game don't either?

Interesting take. Totally wrong but interesting non the less.

I never said the stats don't count, or that the bowl game doesn't count.

You whined and cried because Eichorst made a positive statement about Mike Riley, complaining that "I thought he didn't make statements like this during the season." And then proceeded to call him "a slimy weasel" for doing so. I'm simply pointing out that the season IS basically over. We do get to play in a bowl game and I'm happy about that. YMMV

 

[Landlord]

I thought he didn't make statements like this during the season.

What a slimy weasel.

Season was over after the Iowa game.

So there is no bowl game tomorrow?

Bowl games are not part of the regular season, and not everyone gets to participate. So, yes, I do consider the season over after our last B1G game of the year.

So tomorrow's game doesn't count in the 2016 record and the stats from that game don't either?

Interesting take. Totally wrong but interesting none the less.

His "I don't make statements during the season" mantra has always referred to the regular season. Please try to keep up.

 

[Elf]

the same previous coach who said he hated SE from the first time he saw him? the same previous coach who kept it no secret that he hated SE? i wonder why SE didn't go out of his way to support poor little previous coach?

I'm relatively sure Pelini had an idea of the specific reason Eichorst was being brought in. Pelini knew Osborne was being kept at arms length on the replacement AD search.
The struggle with the powers that be started long before Pelini's spittle infused hat swipe. Pelini certainly has his role in how that power struggle was handled, but there are several men in positions above Pelini more responsible for the stagnation of Nebraska football.

It's also another reason we could have trouble finding a great candidate to replace Riley. While Eichorst is wearing his PR suit, Pelini is busy playing for a championship. The coaching fraternity is not dumb.

Struggles with the powers that be always end up poorly for those lower on the ladder. Always. And if you are doing your job in the proper manner those struggles don't generally happen and when they do happen, doing your job properly can fix them.

Another interesting yet totally untrue take.

Sounds like poor leadership from the top.

In my years I've seen plenty of power struggles, and none of them turned out well. Well, not for the people lower on the ladder and in some cases I'd say it didn't turn out well for the company either because they lost good people sometimes.

It can be poor leadership, I've seen that as well, but even with poor leadership it never turns out well for the person lower on the ladder.

 

[Elf]

I thought he didn't make statements like this during the season.

What a slimy weasel.

Season was over after the Iowa game.

So there is no bowl game tomorrow?

Bowl games are not part of the regular season, and not everyone gets to participate. So, yes, I do consider the season over after our last B1G game of the year.

So tomorrow's game doesn't count in the 2016 record and the stats from that game don't either?

Interesting take. Totally wrong but interesting none the less.

His "I don't make statements during the season" mantra has always referred to the regular season. Please try to keep up.

Unless you have an agenda, people understand this.

 

[Kiyoat Husker]

I agree that the argument for or against the talent level at Nebraska is something he probably shouldn't have stepped into in the first place. As we have proven multiple times on this board, it is easy to find evidence on both sides of that argument.

Are we generally more talented than the rest of the West? Yes.

Do we have depth issues in critical areas? Yes.

Will our coaches be more successful with a true passing quarterback? Hopefully.

ADSE makes himself look a lot like a lawyer when he spins the argument one way or the other. On the other hand, other ADs and coaches use "spin" all the time. Get over it.

 

[LAblackshirt]

If you want to evaluate a coach's first 2 year performance based on just win-loss record and blowouts then you would have been the guy telling everyone Jim Harbaugh "was never going to get Stanford to a championship" after going 4-8, and 5-7.

Stanford of course has nowhere near the tradition as us, but they recruited with an average recruiting ranking of about 40 the three years prior to Harbaugh. Bo Pelini the 3 years prior to Riley had an average recruiting class of 29. Not much of a gap at all, even without considering the point that of the highest ranked players in those three classes (4*) a third of them never even played meaningful snaps for the Huskers.

All I'm trying to say is we need to give Riley more time, and honestly I think hes done well all things considered to this point. Anyone saying these first two years are evidence he can't get the job done is probably just a worried fan not being objective, which I can be at times as well.

 

[Redux]

I really wish he wouldn't have made this statement...