ZRod

zoogs

New member
He stated that I failed to respect the Office of the President. He stated I failed to respect this country. Both are lies. Further, it had nothing to do with the topic - it was taking a shot at me. If he did that because he's so stupid that he doesn't understand that attacking the person holding the office is not attacking the office or the country, that's on him. If could have sent me a PM asking why I used the phrase "so-called president" and I would have happily engaged with him in a respectful manner. He could has asked me privately not to do it. While I would have declined, I would have explained why and done so politely. He didn't - he attacked my in a public manner, for without justification.

It was a personal attack. It was uncalled for. It was made by lying about me. I didn't come on strong - I responded in a manner commensurate with the level of the unprovoked attack.

 
The only problem with this conversation is that we have a place on the board for such back and forth, The Shed. I am going to move this conversation there in a "vs thread". Hopefully, this will resolve the issue.

 
I guess I don't see what the big deal is with ZRod's post.
default_dunno.gif
:

=====================

Also, "pickel". That's pretty funny. Spelling and all.
default_laugh.png


 
I guess I don't see what the big deal is with ZRod's post.
default_dunno.gif
:

***SNIP***
He stated that I failed to respect the Office of the President. He stated I failed to respect this country. Both are lies. Further, it had nothing to do with the topic - it was taking a shot at me. If he did that because he's so stupid that he doesn't understand that attacking the person holding the office is not attacking the office or the country, that's on him. If could have sent me a PM asking why I used the phrase "so-called president" and I would have happily engaged with him in a respectful manner. He could has asked me privately not to do it. While I would have declined, I would have explained why and done so politely. He didn't - he attacked my in a public manner, for without justification.

It was a personal attack. It was uncalled for. It was made by lying about me. I didn't come on strong - I responded in a manner commensurate with the level of the unprovoked attack.
 
I guess I don't get it -- the degree of the reaction, that is; and no, you don't have to re-quote the same post as you did when NUance expressed the same reservations.

I've been away from the board for a bit -- I lurk every now and then, but haven't posted much -- so perhaps I'm missing some context. However, judging by the fact that this is the first thread about Z and that he only has one warning point (calling LoMS a "self-righteous douchebag"), it doesn't seem that anything Z was saying was said with malicious intent.

We've said it many times before, the P&R forum gets a little heated and we let a little more slide in there. Some posters on here obviously didn't respect the Presidency for the past 8 years, but turnabout isn't fair play, and it doesn't accomplish anything. I don't know many people who are more inclined to listen when you insult their beliefs, and the capacity to listen and understand other views, even if we can not agree with them, is something that Obama sought and tried to replicate every day of his Presidency. Listening is the only way this country is going to move forward.

On that note, publicly (privately) calling someone stupid behind their back isn't the best form, in my opinion. If we're going to uphold and enforce a standard, we should at least hold ourselves to that same standard. We're supposed to be the voice of reason, to judiciously enforce board rules and be the mediators when arguments spillover and can't be resolved. That said, I think Z could've approached the topic differently and with more tact, but I don't understand the reaction to his post. Perhaps I have the benefit of not being the one attacked and perhaps I would act in a similar way if our roles were reversed.

I don't know, just throwing my $0.02 out there.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Back
Top