Douchebag Thread for Politics & Religion Spill Over

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Again, I want to point out that you're arguing that it is reasonable to say "what if we can use any arbitrary logic we want and still pass this off as equally reasonable as anything else".

I think you're arguing with yourself at this point brah.

 

[knapplc]

It's just Atheism thinks god is a mythos and science is the creator.

Why are you conflating Atheism with science? Atheism is the lack of belief in gods. Science is the building of knowledge and understanding through testing and observation.

As an Atheist, what do you believe created life?

I don't know. I've seen multiple creation theories, I've seen the explanation that random bits coalesced in primordial pools to form simple life, which evolved.

I can't tell you life evolved because I don't know if it did. I can tell you that a god poofing life out of their thought is almost certainly not the source, in much the same way as I can't tell you the answer to a trigonometry problem off the top of my head, but I can almost certainly tell you that the answer is not 34.

 

[DrunkOffPunch]

Don't throw up a straw man. Don't presume. Just answer the question.

What if there is no god?

When I was 3 my brother got hit on the highway. Broke every bone in his body. Cracked skull, broken femur, face ripped open etc. Me, my mother and two of my cousins were ten feet away and saw the whole thing. Prayer helped me believe my only friend at the time would get better.
When I was 5 I started having really bad panic attacks. Prayer helped calm me down.

In 8th grade my dad left for Iraq. He came home but others weren't so lucky. Prayer got me through it.

Anytime I'm ever afraid, anxious, nervous or whatever, prayer has helped me. I care not if it was nothing more than 'sugar pills.' These things actually happened to me and prayer actually helped. So, so what if he's not real? Did I waste my time praying? You're missing the entire point of 'faith.' Who are you to take that from someone?

 

[knapplc]

Now tell me, how am I supposed to answer your vague question without knowing what you're actually asking me.

"What if there is no god" is a pretty straightforward question. There's no "gotcha" in there anywhere. I started off being curious about the statement, "If there is a God, us understanding the concept fully is unlikely." I became curiouser when you wouldn't answer what was a simple question.

It's not a simple question at all because it isn't there is or there isn't a god.

What's the other option?

 

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It's just Atheism thinks god is a mythos and science is the creator.

Why are you conflating Atheism with science? Atheism is the lack of belief in gods. Science is the building of knowledge and understanding through testing and observation.

As an Atheist, what do you believe created life?

I don't know. I've seen multiple creation theories, I've seen the explanation that random bits coalesced in primordial pools to form simple life, which evolved.I can't tell you life evolved because I don't know if it did. I can tell you that a god poofing life out of their thought is almost certainly not the source, in much the same way as I can't tell you the answer to a trigonometry problem off the top of my head, but I can almost certainly tell you that the answer is not 34.

So you don't have an answer? It's a pretty simple question

 

[Redux]

Now tell me, how am I supposed to answer your vague question without knowing what you're actually asking me.

"What if there is no god" is a pretty straightforward question. There's no "gotcha" in there anywhere. I started off being curious about the statement, "If there is a God, us understanding the concept fully is unlikely." I became curiouser when you wouldn't answer what was a simple question.

It's not a simple question at all because it isn't there is or there isn't a god.

What's the other option?

Exactly

 

[knapplc]

Don't throw up a straw man. Don't presume. Just answer the question.

What if there is no god?

When I was 3 my brother got hit on the highway. Broke every bone in his body. Cracked skull, broken femur, face ripped open etc. Me, my mother and two of my cousins were ten feet away and saw the whole thing. Prayer helped me believe my only friend at the time would get better.
When I was 5 I started having really bad panic attacks. Prayer helped calm me down.

In 8th grade my dad left for Iraq. He came home but others weren't so lucky. Prayer got me through it.

Anytime I'm ever afraid, anxious, nervous or whatever, prayer has helped me. I care not if it was nothing more than 'sugar pills.' These things actually happened to me and prayer actually helped. So, so what if he's not real? Did I waste my time praying? You're missing the entire point of 'faith.' Who are you to take that from someone?

Do you think that if you were born in Riyadh that you would have prayed to the same god, and gotten the same results? What if you were born in Nepal? Or Mumbai? Or Rome circa 118 BC?

 

[knapplc]

Now tell me, how am I supposed to answer your vague question without knowing what you're actually asking me.

"What if there is no god" is a pretty straightforward question. There's no "gotcha" in there anywhere. I started off being curious about the statement, "If there is a God, us understanding the concept fully is unlikely." I became curiouser when you wouldn't answer what was a simple question.

It's not a simple question at all because it isn't there is or there isn't a god.

What's the other option?

Exactly

Explain.

 

[knapplc]

It's just Atheism thinks god is a mythos and science is the creator.

Why are you conflating Atheism with science? Atheism is the lack of belief in gods. Science is the building of knowledge and understanding through testing and observation.

As an Atheist, what do you believe created life?

I don't know. I've seen multiple creation theories, I've seen the explanation that random bits coalesced in primordial pools to form simple life, which evolved.I can't tell you life evolved because I don't know if it did. I can tell you that a god poofing life out of their thought is almost certainly not the source, in much the same way as I can't tell you the answer to a trigonometry problem off the top of my head, but I can almost certainly tell you that the answer is not 34.

So you don't have an answer? It's a pretty simple question

That's a disingenuous statement.

 

[Redux]

Now tell me, how am I supposed to answer your vague question without knowing what you're actually asking me.

"What if there is no god" is a pretty straightforward question. There's no "gotcha" in there anywhere. I started off being curious about the statement, "If there is a God, us understanding the concept fully is unlikely." I became curiouser when you wouldn't answer what was a simple question.

It's not a simple question at all because it isn't there is or there isn't a god.

What's the other option?

Exactly

Explain.

Most the other options are still beyond our comprehension at this point in humanities evolution.

Or we could go with the "Aliens planted life here to observe us like a zoo" theory. What if that?

 

[knapplc]

Most the other options are still beyond our comprehension at this point in humanities evolution.

How do you know that?

 

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Most the other options are still beyond our comprehension at this point in humanities evolution.

How do you know that?

Because we are still evolving. Unless you believe this is our peak.

 

[knapplc]

Most the other options are still beyond our comprehension at this point in humanities evolution.

How do you know that?

Because we still evolving. Unless you believe this is our peak.

So what is your belief system?

 

[zoogs]

^I believe it's pretty clear that it is "reason and knowledge? Who cares."

 

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Most the other options are still beyond our comprehension at this point in humanities evolution.

How do you know that?

Because we still evolving. Unless you believe this is our peak.

So what is your belief system?

I believe in chance. I call myself Agnostic but probably lean towards Atheism. I don't feel life was as black and white as an explosion because the explosion had to happen as the result of something. The answer is so far beyond our comprehension.