SBNation: If Vegas is right about these 8 college football teams, will they fire their coaches?
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RunMickeyRun02
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I've seen a lot of this offseason, what was Vegas saying going into last year? Does anyone remember?
Mavric
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walksalone
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If Riley goes 7-5 this year, which I'm inclined to think this is going to occur, I think his hiring can be considered a failure.
We got exactly what I thought we were going to get, which is an "eh" coach that is nicer than his predecessor.
NUance
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But it seems like Riley has made good moves to get us heading in the right direction. I like our assistants a lot. Think we have a lot better staff now, than under Pelini. And recruiting is certainly up.
I mention this because I generally think It's easier fix what we have in place rather than to fire the guy and start from scratch. When we reboot we go back to square one for a couple of years while the new coach retools the team to fit his schemes. I was one of the few who didn't want to fire Pelini. And I'd like to see us stick with Riley now that he's here.
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Nebfanatic
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What exactly has Michigan done since Harbaughs arrival? I'm gonna say not much if we consider he inherited a loaded roster compared to what Riley inherited.
lo country
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I was not a fan of the Riley hire. My concern when Pelini was fired is we'd get a coach I had to google......Which we did. Then find out that he was like a .504 coach prior to coming here. BUT, he has put together a great staff (not Cav), has done some phenomenal recruiting and with the firing of friends shows he wants to win. The argument was "imagine what he can do with better talent and facilities".... Well, he has the facilities and appears that we have the talent. Now it comes down to coaching and scheme...
Regardless of how we perform, I think he stays. Keep the talent coming in and build for the future. I'd be surprised if we go less than 8-4. That's worse case to me with losses to Wisky, PSU, OSU and one more. Don't know why Vegas and others look to Oregon as some power house... New coach, new scheme etc.....If we go less than that, I'd look at what IMO, is the only weak link left on the former Beavers crew, Cav..... I'm anxious to see how Langs does with play calling now he has "his type of QB and scheme".
Regardless of how we perform, I think he stays. Keep the talent coming in and build for the future. I'd be surprised if we go less than 8-4. That's worse case to me with losses to Wisky, PSU, OSU and one more. Don't know why Vegas and others look to Oregon as some power house... New coach, new scheme etc.....If we go less than that, I'd look at what IMO, is the only weak link left on the former Beavers crew, Cav..... I'm anxious to see how Langs does with play calling now he has "his type of QB and scheme".
ZRod
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He didn't go sub 0.500 like his predecessor, a.k.a. square one.
huskered17
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That's not really a fair way to compare the start for Riley. Harbaugh as stated above had a lot more to work with, when he got to Mich.
Lets see what the next two years yield. I was not a fan of the hire, but i'm hoping he does get the program back to where we can at least compete, with everyone in the B1G.
I wanted Frost to get the job, like a lot of us did and I still hope some where down the line he gets it. If Riley and his staff can keep the recruiting going like it is now. Maybe the next coach will have a team like Harbaugh walked into at Mich to work with.
GBR!!!
suh_fan93
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Uh...are you serious with this question??!!! With all of that talent that Hoke had apparently he was 5-7 in his final season at Michigan (They went 7-6 the year before) then Harbaugh stepped in and obviously turned things around going 10-3 in his first season as well as last season. I'd say he's done pretty well considering where Michigan was under Hoke and that's an understatement. Harbaugh's record at Michigan is 20-6 so far. He's 78-33 overall as a college head coach.
The biggest thing he's done is that he's got people talking about Michigan football again and recruits have also taken notice. Michigan had the #4 recruiting class last year per Rivals.
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Nebfanatic
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No denying Harbaugh is a great coach, there is also no denying the talent he inherited at Michigan was elite, at very least on the defensive side. If we had the players Michigan has had the last 2 years I don't think we are even having this conversation about Riley, because I think we would have at least been to the CCG twice.
Serious question for you Suh_fan. If Riley and Harbaugh swapped rosters before they started at their respective schools, who do you think would have faired better to this point, Harbaugh with our players or Riley with UM's?
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NUance
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Michigan recruiting rankings under Hoke:
2011: #21 (20 commitments)
2012: #7 (25 commitments)
2013 #5 (27 commitments)
2014 #31 (16 commitments)
Say what you will about Hoke as a coach. But the guy brought in tons of talent that Harbaugh has benefited from. Two top 10 classes in his four years as HC. And Harbaugh has kept it up. Other than his transition year in 2015, he's done a heck of a good job bringing in talent.
2011: #21 (20 commitments)
2012: #7 (25 commitments)
2013 #5 (27 commitments)
2014 #31 (16 commitments)
Say what you will about Hoke as a coach. But the guy brought in tons of talent that Harbaugh has benefited from. Two top 10 classes in his four years as HC. And Harbaugh has kept it up. Other than his transition year in 2015, he's done a heck of a good job bringing in talent.