Hayseed
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The point I'm trying to make is maybe Pat O'Brien is Joe Ganz........but we'll never know because he never gets on the damn field.I know you're making a joke, but Ganz redshirted in 2004.
The point I'm trying to make is maybe Pat O'Brien is Joe Ganz........but we'll never know because he never gets on the damn field.I know you're making a joke, but Ganz redshirted in 2004.
Not playing our seond and third string players throughout the season has been our problem since about year 3 of Solich
I guess because we remain mired in this win now or fire the coach mentality.
Great point about Lee going against Banker's D last year while he ran the scout team. Uncle Rico would look like an All-American going up against that D.
I think Hayseed was commenting about Keller starting for 9 games over Ganz in 2007. It took a broken collarbone by Keller for Ganz to get the start that year.
Ok, I understand now.The point I'm trying to make is maybe Pat O'Brien is Joe Ganz........but we'll never know because he never gets on the damn field.
Don't forget, though - the defense was largely considered to have been the better unit in fall camp this year. One player was even quoted as saying he thought the defense was going to surprise some people in a good way this season (paraphrasing).My take is the coaches thought he was all-world because he has been going against our soft pass D in practice. Last year he ran the scout team against Banker's D. And in spring/fall camp he got to go against Diaco's D. Both schemes having super soft coverage. A reasonable accurate QB can easily hit WRs when the DBs play 8-10 yards off each snap.
So much this. I'm sure we play like we practice. No doubt he looks great in practice. All the QB's we play look great.My take is the coaches thought he was all-world because he has been going against our soft pass D in practice. Last year he ran the scout team against Banker's D. And in spring/fall camp he got to go against Diaco's D. Both schemes having super soft coverage. A reasonable accurate QB can easily hit WRs when the DBs play 8-10 yards off each snap.
I have considered that most recruits are overhyped. In the coach's defense, they don't write the sports columns.So much this. I'm sure we play like we practice. No doubt he looks great in practice. All the QB's we play look great.
Now think about how POB might actually look in a game if Lee looks better....
Then again, maybe he gets on the field and is terrible.......it's a complete mystery.Ok, I understand now.
I have considered that most recruits are overhyped. In the coach's defense, they don't write the sports columns.
I agree with you completely. Heck, I say have three players fully prepared for every position and let them compete.Ya, I don't recall our coaches talking him up. Which is why in my post I said "if" it was all true. Maybe it wasn't. But maybe he really did play great and now he doesn't.
And yes, it could've been that the defense he was facing is bad. But I still say you try the backup QB when your QB throws 2 pick 6's. That was much more baffling than not putting him in against Rutgers.
You have us confused with Utah.He IS from Oregon, so you never know??