Thoughts and Prayers!!!

Notice how, since we can't label the Las Vegas shooter in any way, since it just appears to be some senseless random killing, that we've almost forgotten about it just a few weeks later?

I mean, this mass murder helps push that one off the radar, and the next one will push this one off the radar, and the next, and the next, and the next...

But a guy shot 59 people to death, and we've basically forgotten about it. 

This guy shot 26 people to death. And when the next one happens, we'll forget about this one, too. 

When you can't label someone, and put them into some convenient political bucket, it's expedient to simply forget their actions ever occurred.

Scary, that convenience.

 
Just read that the Air Force failed to report domestic assault conviction to FBI database. Doing so would have prevented him from legally purchasing guns.

 
Dbqgolfer said:
Just read that the Air Force failed to report domestic assault conviction to FBI database. Doing so would have prevented him from legally purchasing guns.
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Really disappointing. 

Unfortunately, given the amount of scrutiny we assign to our military when they screw up (almost nonexistent, unless they get us into an unpopular war), I'm guessing this may get a little bit of airtime tomorrow and we'll just "aww, shucks, what are you gonna do" our way through another one.

So many people who might still be alive if we actually did the right things. Some of them aren't even big things! This one is a good example... do the little things.

 
Nebfanatic said:
Tougher gun laws wouldn't have taken the citizens gun away though.....
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They do in every other first world nation.

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knapplc said:
They do in every other first world nation.



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I don't disagree with this data and would love us to be much tougher on guns, but the common sense gun regulations that are the small and only first step for America due to our gun hard on wouldn't have taken the rifle from the guy who chased down the terrorist.

The gun laws we would enact would be geared towards not selling guns to people like the terrorist and prohibiting certain guns and attachments that is conducive to mass death. We are a long long way from banning hunting rifles and shotguns so the resident of Sutherland Springs who shot at and chased the shooter would have had his guns whether we had tougher gun laws or not likely. The difference would have been the terrorists access to assault weapons.

 
I took Nebfanatic's comment to mean that the citizen that helped scare off the shooter would have still been able to have a gun and help.  

Edit:^^^Nebfanatic just further explained his post they way I understood it.

 
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funhusker said:
I took Nebfanatic's comment to mean that the citizen that helped scare off the shooter would have still been able to have a gun and help.  
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100%. To me, it's questionable to draw your weapon on an active shooter and try and take him down, though Texas is a circumstance I think it was completely a necessary action. But either way that whole idea of taking bystanders guns away so there would be no one to stop shooters is ludicrous. We aren't talking about gun laws on conceal and carry pistols or hunting weapons. These things also contribute to death and gun violence across America so it is an issue to be dealt with, but right now we need to focus on how can we limit and hopefully mostly eliminate mass shooting events where people are using more militarized gear. There is no place for that stuff(the military grade weapons)  among our society. 

 
dudeguyy said:
Cowards gonna cower.

Pathetic.

Also, I don't know who asked this, but bravo.
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I'm guessing that this is going to be the main argument.

My next question is then, what's your solution?  If you are going to take completely off the table, a change in gun regulation, then YOU come up with a solution.

The status quo isn't acceptable.

 
BigRedBuster said:
I'm guessing that this is going to be the main argument.

My next question is then, what's your solution?  If you are going to take completely off the table, a change in gun regulation, then YOU come up with a solution.

The status quo isn't acceptable.
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The argument is a fallacy though. We don't want to take away the hero's hunting rifle. We aren't asking for laws to stop everyday people from purchasing a 12 gauge for trap shooting. We are asking that guns aren't sold to mentally unstable people or those who have a history if violence like this guy. We are asking that civilians aren't legally allowed to purchase or posses any type of gun or attachment that can make a gun automatic. Common sense regulations that won't effect 99% of gun owners but will make it harder on the very small percentage that wants to cause harm.

 
Nebfanatic said:
The argument is a fallacy though. We don't want to take away the hero's hunting rifle. We aren't asking for laws to stop everyday people from purchasing a 12 gauge for trap shooting. We are asking that guns aren't sold to mentally unstable people or those who have a history if violence like this guy. We are asking that civilians aren't legally allowed to purchase or posses any type of gun or attachment that can make a gun automatic. Common sense regulations that won't effect 99% of gun owners but will make it harder on the very small percentage that wants to cause harm.
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Just to be clear.....I'm pretty sure it was reported that the "hero" was using an AR very similar to what the shooter was using.

I guess I haven't seen that it was a hunting rifle.

 
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