** Scott Frost megathread all things SF***

[tyrone_biggums]

Super brief synopsis and dispelling some stupid rumors about this, and why those rumors exist:

Frost went to Stanford instead of Nebraska, and some fans hated him for that, and have never forgiven it.

Frost transferred back to Nebraska in 1995 and sat out the year as a Redshirt.

While on the team but redshirting, he met and started seeing Kate McEwen, a Husker women's basketball player who had formerly dated Lawrence Phillips.

The night of the 1995 Nebraska / Michigan State game, while McEwen was at Frost's apartment, Phillips climbed to the balcony and entered Frost's apartment, and dragged McEwen out by her hair.  Frost fought Phillips, and helped get McEwen away from him.  Frost did NOT, as the BS rumors go, cower in a closet while Phillips assaulted her.

The rumor that Frost hid from Phillips is a lie, and perpetuated by people who do not like Frost. They were offended that he didn't go to Nebraska right away, they were offended that he dated a girl formerly dated by a teammate, and they were put off by Frost's cocky attitude.  That rumor is not true, but it persists like "County Scholarships" because of jealousy and stupidity.

I knew LP beat a woman and I know all about Scott and Stanford and I know all the timelines after, but I guess I never heard of that intersection of timelines. Pretty messed up situation. Probably not the smartest or most tactful thing for Scott to do but like that but woah chill LP.  I guess that's what I get for being a kid during all of it.

What's this "County Scholarships" thing? I'm learning so much today. If only I could learn who our next coach will be.

 

[mnhusker]

Slow your roll there, my friend.  We have another whole round to get through before we determine if Scott Frost is the Fan's Head Coach.

Can't we just make him like coach for the week or something temporary till we get a contract signed.  

 

[4skers89]

I am too.   :thumbs

Too bad our players can't take that hate, put it in their hearts, and KICK SOME NITTANY BUTT!!!!

 

[jessica0]

To build on this, these are people who probably would not be happy if the information is leaked. Lets say you had your opportunity at a dream hire/dream coach, but the barrier to get it done was that you had to not talk about it for a month. Would you be able to do it? 

I imagine when there is legacy and millions of dollars on the line, folks are able to shut up about it. These aren't obsessed fanboys dropping memes in threads. They don't feel obligated to keep the fans informed. They are people who worked extremely hard to reach where they are in their careers and they're not going to jeopardize that because they're excited. 

It is easier to keep things quiet when you are involved. It is when you get people that share stuff in public for ego reasons. Do I believe any of this Peterson talk? Not for a single second. IMO it is simply rehashing what people already know - his complaints about TV times.

My favorite rumor of all of the past few weeks is Scott Frost staying at UCF so he can get them to the Big 12. SMH. I know how conference expansion works at a level much deeper than your average for for reasons I don't care to get into, but that always cracks me up. The only reason why he would stay at UCF is if he doesn't have the desire to compete for it all at the highest level and his former boss at Oregon literally said on the radio (I posted it in this thread) that doesn't see him staying at UCF since is a competitor that will want to compete for it all. But all of those insiders on RSS and all of those insiders leaking info 50 times a day with all of that info that fails logic the majority of the time. 

 

[knapplc]

I knew LP beat a woman and I know all about Scott and Stanford and I know all the timelines after, but I guess I never heard of that intersection of timelines. Pretty messed up situation. Probably not the smartest or most tactful thing for Scott to do but like that but woah chill LP.  I guess that's what I get for being a kid during all of it.

What's this "County Scholarships" thing? I'm learning so much today. If only I could learn who our next coach will be.

To the bold... why?   Ms. McEwen is an adult and can date whomever she chooses.  If she chooses to break up with one guy and date another, that's her business.  Frost is also free to date whomever he chooses, and Phillips has no claim over a girl who breaks up with him.  That's a very old-fashioned concept. 

County Scholarships are a lie perpetuated by our old "friends" in the Big 8, mostly Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Colorado - the have-nots of the old Big 8.  They alleged that Nebraska wa able to build a good team that beat their a$$ all the time, in part, because we were giving walk-ons money under the table.  They alleged these were called "County Scholarships" and everyone from boosters to Tom Osborne to (apparently?) locals in the counties the walk-ons grew up in were all in on this vast conspiracy. 

I mean, how else could Nebraska beat them all the time?  It's not like those teams sucked or anything...

 

[Husker Q]

** NEW INSIDER INFO **

My dog is from Florida and his brother, Max, lives with one of the UCF coaches families and they told Max to start growing his winter coat.  Sooo... Frost is N!

 

[jessica0]

There is no way on earth that Scott Frost isn't a major target or not even #1 when not just the AD, but also the school President has publicly talked about Scott Frost. So this writer goes to Orlando and basically recaps everything that was already known and puts it all into one article and the Benning uses it for his talking points (he has made it clear how he wants this to go for much longer than a month) and then we suddenly have a thousand insiders posting about him staying at UCF. 

My personal favorite rumor over the last 24 hours is a guy on a Nebraska board that once said a few weeks ago that Riley was staying until 2019 (claimed to have had a 2 hour long conversation about it with a person of influence) and now he posts about his insider having a connection (literally) inside the athletic department of UCF and Scott Frost never becoming the head coach at all and for a long time. SMH. My goodness the lengths people go to. 

 

[TGHusker]

Just an example of how Nebraska fans hold a grudge.  Not only was the TE out of bounds, the receiver who "caught" the game-winning TD pass didn't actually catch it. 

yes - rub it in.  But it is sooooooooooooo true

I think we all can live about a dozen plays that kept us from a NC.  When you were that good - it often was just that one #@&* play.

 

[irafreak]

Needs less grammar.

Then it would a tuff tiger post

 

[Kernel Red]

Adam said he got the info from his contacts at UCF. People can chose to ignore Adam if they want to, but that also doesn't make Adam's info wrong. 

It's not a matter of ignoring or not ignoring. It is whether or not people are viewing what he (or any other paid media member) says in the proper context. Adam's "information" was ultimately shared on a site that gets paid by advertisers for the number of clicks they get. Anyone dishing information on Nebraska, Florida, or Tennessee (accurate or not) right now has a huge audience that is frothing at the mouth for table scraps. It should therefore be weighed in that context.

When Damon Benning takes to Twitter to indicate that Frost might stay at UCF, does anyone wonder whether he is saying that to get more people to tune in to his radio show? You should.

We're living in the middle of a situation where information is being consumed and repeated, many times with embellishment, at a dizzying pace. People, in general, aren't good at practicing patience. Husker fans are among the very worst right now because they are passionate (and desperate). It's fun to read the comments and speculate about what is happening behind the scenes, but putting too much weight behind any comment or piece of insider information right now comes with the risk of disappointment. I am relatively certain that most people reading a message board like this understand that. Having said that, it's also kind of fun to play the guessing game (as evidenced by the 130 pages of comments in this thread).

God bless Bill Moos...

 

[tyrone_biggums]

To the bold... why?   Ms. McEwen is an adult and can date whomever she chooses.  If she chooses to break up with one guy and date another, that's her business.  Frost is also free to date whomever he chooses, and Phillips has no claim over a girl who breaks up with him.  That's a very old-fashioned concept. 

County Scholarships are a lie perpetuated by our old "friends" in the Big 8, mostly Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Colorado - the have-nots of the old Big 8.  They alleged that Nebraska wa able to build a good team that beat their a$$ all the time, in part, because we were giving walk-ons money under the table.  They alleged these were called "County Scholarships" and everyone from boosters to Tom Osborne to (apparently?) locals in the counties the walk-ons grew up in were all in on this vast conspiracy. 

I mean, how else could Nebraska beat them all the time?  It's not like those teams sucked or anything...

I agree 100%. Just because you can and are able to do something doesn't mean it is smart or tactful or that you should. If you're the new guy and hoping to be the leader of the team, would you really get romantically involved with the star running back's ex? Maybe talk to LP first since he is your teammate? I'd do the same if I wanted to be romantically involved with one of my friends ex.

 

[brophog]

My personal favorite rumor over the last 24 hours is a guy on a Nebraska board that once said a few weeks ago that Riley was staying until 2019 (claimed to have had a 2 hour long conversation about it with a person of influence) and now he posts about his insider having a connection (literally) inside the athletic department of UCF and Scott Frost never becoming the head coach at all and for a long time. SMH. My goodness the lengths people go to. 

My favorite rumor is the one started by a poster who doesn't even realize who she's replying to, in the thread with that poster's name on the title. My goodness the lengths people go to.

 

[knapplc]

I agree 100%. Just because you can and are able to do something doesn't mean it is smart or tactful or that you should. If you're the new guy and hoping to be the leader of the team, would you really get romantically involved with the star running back's ex? Maybe talk to LP first since he is your teammate? I'd do the same if I wanted to be romantically involved with one of my friends ex.

We can agree to disagree about that. I know there's locker-room etiquette involved, but as we're seeing in society today, not all of those locker-room codes bear perpetuating. 

It is exactly that locker-room etiquette that perpetuates a dislike about Frost today, and is germane to your question that started this whole sidebar. 

 

[Warrior10]

Ok, Adam knows nothing. Random RSS posters have all of the info. 

:facepalm:

Here is why this is comical; these are quotes from you in this thread, citing or linking info from message board posters.

"FWIW....

http://www.gatorchatter.com/threads/source-chip-kelly-to-be-announced-on-friday.17934/

Yeah...but the most trusted Nebraska poster that I know posted that he has confirmed that there is in fact two way communication between UNL and Frost/Agent."

"The poster that I am talking about attends the meetings with the big wigs and he said it is true about the two way communication. He doesn't have any confirmation that Scott Frost is coming through and I wouldn't expect him to say otherwise without confirmation of it."

"He is the guy where I am getting the DB, DL and WR coaches potentially retained. 

No s surprise, but a connected poster on another Nebraska stated  this "He’s at the top of the list and from what I’ve heard it’s a full court press for him. That said there are others on Moos’ short list and quality people available or who will come available." his full post was longer, but that is the imporant part."

"JAV (just a vol) on 247, the most reliable insider for TN on that forum, is saying Chip Kelly to Florida may not happen. Frost to UF isn't going to happen."

"On the free board for RSS people say Scott Frost wants a 7 year deal. 

The Florida Rivals insider is saying the contract with Chip is close to getting signed."

"Pm me for a screen shot of the post or go to GatorChatter or gator country.

Folks at GatorCountry have basically written off Scott Frost to Nebraska this afternoon."

"That Florida insider that leaked the McElwain firing on that Friday afternoon/evening said he is hearing Chip Kelly and UF took another push at Scott Frost. He posts reliable info and it makes sense."

"I'm sure if UF is going to be hiring Chip Kelly that it will be this week. Maybe by the middle of the week?

The Florida insider said they tried to get him wrapped up. He was the only guy they were going after. A clear #1 target. Scott Frost wasn't budging. They decided on Wednesday to move on From Scott Frost. They said he wants the Nebraska job. They spoke with Chip Kelly to gather information about Scott Frost during this process. Chip and Florida established mutual interest and they offered him the job (verbally) this week and he accepted. Now starts the process of doing the contract negotiations, lawyer review, etc. 

$5.2M offer to Coach Frost according to a post on a Nebraska forum. Others will be able to see it to know if that poster is reliable or not."

"Two Florida sites are saying it is Chip.  He reached out to Florida according to what they are saying. Frost is holding out for Nebraska. Likely to be annouced next week."

So it's fine as long as it fits your opinion/rumor..... But if it doesn't, it's just some random poster and discarded.

However the national media is always right, as long as it fits your opiniom/rumor. But when it doesn't: 

"There is a reason why they are coming. The national media has been clueess the whole time."

Another quote by you. 

PS: I think Frost will end up at Nebraska and Chip at UF. But can't wait for Jessica to act like she/he "called it".

 

[Pedro Guerrero]

My personal favorite rumor over the last 24 hours is a guy on a Nebraska board that once said a few weeks ago that Riley was staying until 2019 (claimed to have had a 2 hour long conversation about it with a person of influence) and now he posts about his insider having a connection (literally) inside the athletic department of UCF and Scott Frost never becoming the head coach at all and for a long time. SMH. 

My favorite rumor of all of the past few weeks is Scott Frost staying at UCF so he can get them to the Big 12. SMH.