Which Nebraska QB would you choose for Frost's offense?

Pick a Nebraska QB (past or present)

  • Turner Gill

    Votes: 32 27.6%

  • Tommie Frazier

    Votes: 23 19.8%

  • Scott Frost

    Votes: 23 19.8%

  • Bobby Newcombe

    Votes: 9 7.8%

  • Eric Crouch

    Votes: 29 25.0%

  • Jammal Lord

    Votes: 5 4.3%

  • Zach Taylor

    Votes: 6 5.2%

  • Joe Ganz

    Votes: 27 23.3%

  • Taylor Martinez

    Votes: 33 28.4%

  • Tommy Armstrong Jr.

    Votes: 13 11.2%

  • Adrian Martinez

    Votes: 11 9.5%

  • Tristan Gebbia

    Votes: 7 6.0%

  • Andrew Bunch

    Votes: 4 3.4%

  • Gerry Gdowski

    Votes: 10 8.6%

  • Steve Taylor

    Votes: 13 11.2%

  • Brook Berringer

    Votes: 22 19.0%
  • Total voters
    116
Moiraine said:
There are lots of words and arguments to use about Martinez if you didn't think he was a great QB but "liability" is a horribly inaccurate one. Martinez sometimes carried the team on his back during those 3 years.
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Pretty heavy load carrying Burkhead, Abdullah, Helu, Kinnie, Paul, Allen, Q, Moore and Bell.  One might think they carried poor QB play.

This jump ball BS we’ve been watching for 9 years doesn’t work.  It has been exposed that tossing the ball into the air and letting Bell or Westy make a play is at best marginally successful.

Frost is looking for a smart QB that is athletic and throw accurately.

 
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I would go T-Mart because I feel more confident in Mario developing T-Mart over time where Tim Beck failed at. 

 
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Mavric said:
I think the difference is - as you alluded to - the advantages are not equal and opposite.  If you rate them on a 10 point scale, Ganz was probably an 8 passing while Martinez was maybe a 6 or 7.  But on the rushing scale, Ganz was maybe a 5 while Martinez was a 10.  So while in general I agree that Frost would rather have a little better passer, the possibility of having an guy who is a threat to score every play would be enough to give up a little throwing the ball.
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On a 10 point scale of good decision making, Ganz was an 8 and Martinez was a 4. Related, on a scale of being able to trust your QB to be smart and reliable and safe with the football, probably similar numbers of comparison. Marcus Mariota and McKenzie Milton, before anything else, are savvy, smart quarterbacks who don't make a ton of mistakes. Martinez had way more 'wow' moments that were great and 'wow moments that were headshaking.

T-Mart was closer to Ganz in throwing ability than Ganz was to him in running ability, but he also had a penchant for being a turnover machine. 

Moiraine said:
There are lots of words and arguments to use about Martinez if you didn't think he was a great QB but "liability" is a horribly inaccurate one. Martinez sometimes carried the team on his back during those 3 years.
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Didn't he lead the nation in fumbles every year or something like that? 

But yes, he did carry the team on his back often. 

 
Landlord said:
Didn't he lead the nation in fumbles every year or something like that? 

But yes, he did carry the team on his back often. 
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That doesn't make him a liability unless he failed to make up for it in other areas.

 
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I went with Ganz. He's the best passer in the last 20 years at Nebraska. Maybe the best in school history.

I am intrigued by the Bobby Newcombe option though. I would like to see what he could have done, healthy knees and all, in an offense like that. 

 
It’s all good—just different perspectives but there is a lot more T-Mart on here than I expected. 

I am guessing I am older than many of you, but I’d easily take the old option qb’s like crouch, Frazier, Frost over T-Mart to run Scott’s offense. 

You can can give me completion stats all day, but those guys had a mentality that I think was missing in T-Marts game. If they were in Scott’s system from day one, they would have been amazing in that system as well. 

 
Nebfanatic said:
Funny nobody is backing Turner Gill in the thread but he is second in votes. I went Gill!
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If the poll was limited to one vote my vote would go to Turner Gill.  Very mobile, great field general, and huge arm.  He's perfectly suited to what (I think) Frost will be doing.  

Another guy who would be great in this offense but didn't garner many votes is Gerry Gdowski.  Very mobile, and he might have been a better passer than his stats indicate.  

 
NUance said:
If the poll was limited to one vote my vote would go to Turner Gill.  Very mobile, great field general, and huge arm.  He's perfectly suited to what (I think) Frost will be doing.  

Another guy who would be great in this offense but didn't garner many votes is Gerry Gdowski.  Very mobile, and he might have been a better passer than his stats indicate.  
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Many great options on the list but I think you're right about Gill. Gdowski would have broken an NCAA passer rating record his senior year but he was 3 attempts per game short of the minimum. 

 
Taylor Martinez had some truly terrible turnover problems. In 2012, only eight Division I players lost six or more fumbles, and two of them played for Nebraska - Abdullah and Martinez. From 2011-2012, Martinez led the nation in 29 fumbles. Count me out on being interested in him running Frost's offense. He was more of an asset than a liability during his career, but, those turnovers were nightmares.

 
I explored this a couple of months ago in a post, but Joe Ganz is pretty much the template for the modern QB that can best run the offense that Frost wants to run.

Others that would have fit include Berringer, Gdwoski and Steve Taylor. Turner Gill would have been phenomenal in this offense. 

One player that would have been very, VERY intriguing to see would be Bobby Newcombe. Had he not gotten hurt, who knows what Eric Crouch's legacy at Nebraska is? 

 
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