Idiocy- It’s a Real Thing

ZRod said:
But you posted here  :P
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It’s a pretty rare occurrence nowadays though. I gotta check in from time to time just so I can appreciate what I’m choosing to miss out on.

 
Nebfanatic said:
This part really struck me. Ford's story IS normal. 1 in 3 women experience sexual harrassment or assualt in their lifetime. Conversly men are falsely accused of rape in 5% of reported cases. Considering most sexual violence goes unreported, the chances of beimg falsely accused are very, very low. Fact of the matter is sexual assualt is normal. Abusers lying to save their own skin is also normal. False accusations of sexual assualt are abnormal.

You didn't have to start this idiocy thread out with such a fine example, but bravo to you.
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You know those stats are complete BS, right? I hope so. If not, try the Google machine. It will help prevent you from posting ridiculous propaganda.

 
Ric Flair said:
You know those stats are complete BS, right? I hope so. If not, try the Google machine. It will help prevent you from posting ridiculous propaganda.
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Are you claiming the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are B.S.? It’s #2 on the Justice Department’s list of resources on sexual assault. 

@Nebfanatic‘s post you are quoting is actually wrong in the opposite direction. 1 in 3 have experienced sexual violence according to the CDC. Not “violence or harassment.” A much higher % have faced sexual harassment. I’ve seen from between 3 in 5 and 4 in 5. From what I’ve looked at about 1 in 5 men have experienced sexual harassment, so it’s obviously pretty prevalent for both men and women.

 
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Ric Flair said:
You know those stats are complete BS, right? I hope so. If not, try the Google machine. It will help prevent you from posting ridiculous propaganda.
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Lmao you try the google machine there buddy. @Moiraine is right in that I incorrectly lumped violence and harrasment. If you search on the google machine the first thing it tells you about false accusations is that between 2%-10% of reports are classified as false. A common figure I kept coming across was 5%, right there in the middle. Now 5% is a low number, and when you consider most sexual violence isn't reported(this is a fact not up for debate) it really makes the false accusation an extremely rare occurance while on the other hand sexual assualt and harrassment happens to nearly every woman and quite a few men. Now this isn't an actual statistic, but I would guess 999 out of 1000 people who commit sexual assualt will lie about it when confronted. Sexual harassment, assualt and the subsequent covering up of these crimes is extremely common while false accusations are extremely rare. I'm tired of the 'what if she's lying we are ruining a good mans life' 

Chances are she is telling the truth. To be clear by she I mean women in general.

 
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Moiraine said:
Are you claiming the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are B.S.? It’s #2 on the Justice Department’s list of resources on sexual assault. 

@Nebfanatic‘s post you are quoting is actually wrong in the opposite direction. 1 in 3 have experienced sexual violence according to the CDC. Not “violence or harassment.” A much higher % have faced sexual harassment. I’ve seen from between 3 in 5 and 4 in 5. From what I’ve looked at about 1 in 5 men have experienced sexual harassment, so it’s obviously pretty prevalent for both men and women.
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DEBUNKED.

“CDC: Nearly 1 in 5 Women Raped.” “One in Five U.S. Women Has Been Raped: CDC Survey.” These alarming headlines were typical of the coverage of last week’s Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report on sexual and intimate violence in the United States. The CDC study—the second in two years—seems to support a radical feminist narrative that has been gaining mainstream attention recently: that modern America is a “rape culture” saturated with misogynistic violence. But a closer look at the data, obtained from telephone surveys done in 2011, yields a far more complex picture and raises some surprising question about gender, victimization, and bias.
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We must either start treating sexual assault as a gender-neutral issue or stop using the CDC’s inflated statistics. Few would deny that sex crimes in America are a real, serious, and tragic problem. But studies of sexual violence should use accurate and clear definitions of rape and sexual assault, rather than lump these criminal acts together with a wide range of unsavory but non-criminal scenarios of men—and women—behaving badly.
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http://time.com/3393442/cdc-rape-numbers/

 
Nebfanatic said:
Lmao you try the google machine there buddy. @Moiraine is right in that I incorrectly lumped violence and harrasment. If you search on the google machine the first thing it tells you about false accusations is that between 2%-10% of reports are classified as false. A common figure I kept coming across was 5%, right there in the middle. Now 5% is a low number, and when you consider most sexual violence isn't reported(this is a fact not up for debate) it really makes the false accusation an extremely rare occurance while on the other hand sexual assualt and harrassment happens to nearly every woman and quite a few men. Now this isn't an actual statistic, but I would guess 999 out of 1000 people who commit sexual assualt will lie about it when confronted. Sexual harassment, assualt and the subsequent covering up of these crimes is extremely common while false accusations are extremely rare. I'm tired of the 'what if she's lying we are ruining a good mans life' 

Chances are she is telling the truth. To be clear by she I mean women in general.
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The numbers from those studies are all over the place.

False rape charges have probably been in existence as long as the concept of rape. However, in the 20th century, medical jurisprudence witnessed a new development that enabled false allegations to be viewed as a singular instance of gender-related lying, something quite different in nature from the false allegations of robbery or burglary that were made by men. False rape allegations became a reflection of a unique condition of women, not unlike that of kleptomania. The purpose of this paper is to report the findings on the incidence of false rape allegations from a long-term study of one city’s police agency. This investigation is a case study of one police agency in a small metropolitan area in the Midwestern United States. This city was picked because it offered an almost model laboratory for studying false rape allegations. False rape allegations were investigated from 1978 to 1987. A ranking police official notified the investigators whenever a rape charge was declared false and provided records of the case. In the study, 41 percent of the total disposed rape cases were officially declared false.
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https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/Publications/abstract.aspx?ID=191920

 
Ric Flair said:
It’s amazing to me listening to liberal idiots and talking heads who simply assume that Justice Kavanaugh is a sexual predator. No proof. No evidence. Total BS.

It’s crazy to see so many abandon the rule of law and the concept of due process. As soon as Ford spoke, some assumed Kavanaugh was guilty. They wanted him punished, destroyed, annihilated. Survivors have to be believed they say. But assuming someone is a survivor means concluding she was sexually assaulted. Some who claim they were assaulted weren’t. Assuming Ford is telling the truth, as many did before even hearing from Kavanaugh,  means presuming Kavanaugh is guilty. If Ford deserved to be heard and believed,  wasn’t Kavanaugh entitled to the same courtesy? Not according to liberals. 

It’s weird to see so many bend over backwards to normalize Ford’s story and behavior while bending over backwards to make Kavanaugh’s story and behavior seem weird, odd, creepy, and consistent with the allegations against him. Ford’s story had more holes than swiss cheese. But we’re told trauma can cause forgetfulness. Yet she didn’t FORGET the four witnesses she said were there, each of whom denied lnowing anything about it. So her selective memory, gaps in memory, and contradictions to her claimed memory don’t bother some at all. But when it comes to Kavanaugh, they slander him shamelessly, painting him as a spoiled, entitled, rich, drunk, violent, mean, etc. There’s no evidence he sexually assaulted Ford. But they want to paint him as a bad character, to try to convince the public not to like him regardless. If the Republicans had similarly dug up dirt on Ford, coming through high school yearbooks, talking to old boyfriends, asking about her sexual history, drinking, medical or psychological history, many would have flipped out about how unfair it was to intimidate or harrass Ford, the poor helpless survivor. But those same people have no problem whatsoever with using the same tactics to destroy and annihilate Kavanaugh.

It’s bizarre to see so many women who claim to be sexual assault survivors project the hatred they have for their alleged assailants onto Kavanaugh. So many HATE and DESPISE this man they don’t even know. 

The people I’m describing are a complete and abject embarrassment. 

Sen. Susan Collins’ speech was simply amazing. 

Remedial Constitutional Law for Liberals

If you have liberal friends who continue to embarrass you with their ashes and sackcloth, tears, gnashing of teeth, vagina hats, and creepy threats of violence, please share Susan Collins’ speech with them. Maybe it will help.
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Ric Flair: I am a Republican.  Therefore, any allegations of wrong-doing against any Republicans must be discredited and not believed no matter what the evidence is.

Also Ric Flair: I heard from Breitbart, who quoted some anonymous, vaguely connected to the Trump administration, that Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and all the other Democrats were participating in a ritualistic, satanic, blood sacrifice of babies.  I believe this 100% because Trump, FauxNews, and other right-wing, media wouldn't ever lie to me.





 





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Making Chimichangas said:
Ric Flair: I am a Republican.  Therefore, any allegations of wrong-doing against any Republicans must be discredited and not believed no matter what the evidence is.

Also Ric Flair: I heard from Breitbart, who quoted some anonymous, vaguely connected to the Trump administration, that Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and all the other Democrats were participating in a ritualistic, satanic, blood sacrifice of babies.  I believe this 100% because Trump, FauxNews, and other right-wing, media wouldn't ever lie to me.

 

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Hyperbole much? The groupthink here on BubbleBoard is amazing. 

 
Nebfanatic said:
One piece of outdated information with very small sample size. I bet I can find 5 studies that put the number under 10% before you can find another that puts it iver 15
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The survey you and everyone else keep citing seems to have been conducted by telephone. The other methodological issues with it are discussed in some detail.

 
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