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Being those kids are from Kentucky, the guy might be right.

But I would not recommend listening to the whole video.  Even I wanted to give the guy several eyeTrolls
Ha...Kentuky is pretty neckish!  Shoot years ago we were in Ohio and went over to Kentucky, I think there was an amusement park, Kings Island?  Not sure...but my god did things change from Ohio into Kentucky. 

 
So you're going to assume what the kid said to provoke the "go back to Europe" comment, while also taking the elder man at his word that he was trying to diffuse it, despite all video suggesting otherwise? That seems like the definition of trying to fit it to your narrative.
Maybe he was trying to diffuse the situation between the Israelite people and the MAGA students?  Just spitballing 

 
Maybe he was trying to diffuse the situation between the Israelite people and the MAGA students?  Just spitballing 


It's entirely possible, but it's not how it looks in the video. And I think the situation between students and the other group was after the Native American issue, because the buses showed up in one of the videos to pick the kids up.

 
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It's entirely possible, but it's not how it looks in the video. And I think the situation between students and the other group was after the Native American issue, because the buses showed up in one of the videos to pick th kids up.
The video that Teach and I are discussing shows the students and the other group BEFORE the elder shows up

 
The video that Teach and I are discussing shows the students and the other group BEFORE the elder shows up


If he was attempting to diffuse the situation, wouldn't you do so by going towards the verbally, instigating adults who were harassing a group of kids? It seems far more likely to me that he liked what he saw, and wanted to get in on it. His actions suggest it as well.

 
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So you're going to assume what the kid said to provoke the "go back to Europe" comment, while also taking the elder man at his word that he was trying to diffuse it, despite all video suggesting otherwise? That seems like the definition of trying to fit it to your narrative.




Yes, I’m assuming he said something along those lines because the guy who told him to go to Europe was watching the drum guy calmly for a good 30 seconds then suddenly whipped his head around to one kid specifically and then made that comment. The comment is by definition out of context because you don’t know what came immediately before it. 

Also, you throw around the word instigate a lot. Walking toward them while playing drums and singing at a national monument doesn’t seem like instigation to me, and the guy did nothing that should have caused them to behave that way. 

If he was attempting to diffuse the situation, wouldn't you do so by going towards the verbally, instigating adults who were harassing a group of kids? It seems far more likely to me that he liked what he saw, and wanted to get in on it. His actions suggest it as well.




They were talking to that group before he did so, and it was 4 vs. 100+.

 
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I thought this was pretty interesting. Apparently there is a very clear cultural problem at this particular high school. After reading, my thoughts did not change and this particular kid sounds very privileged.

(Read the whole thread, it’s semi-long.)


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That Arlen dude is creepy AF!  Oh my god.

This Arlen dude makes Ted Bundy look normal.

 
Man, this is one ugly situation.  I don’t blame the boys as much as I did at first, but I don’t think Phillips deserves fault.  The group from Covington was getting sucked into confrontation by the Black Israelites.  Phillips and his group noticed and entered the group to redirect the students.   

From there, it’s hard to say about all the individual comments back and forth, except that it was ugly.  It also all could have been avoided if chaperones were there to get the kids away from the very small group of Black Israelites.

 
Man, this is one ugly situation.  I don’t blame the boys as much as I did at first, but I don’t think Phillips deserves fault.  The group from Covington was getting sucked into confrontation by the Black Israelites.  Phillips and his group noticed and entered the group to redirect the students.   

From there, it’s hard to say about all the individual comments back and forth, except that it was ugly.  It also all could have been avoided if chaperones were there to get the kids away from the very small group of Black Israelites.




The 4 Black guys were the worst of the bunch and based on some of the words they were using I wouldn’t be surprised if they started it merely because they saw people in MAGA hats. They deserve being outed more than the others. 

Which, btw, wearing MAGA hats while shouting chants in front of a national monument with a group of 100+ people is instigating if 1 person walking through a crowd with a drum and singing is. (I think neither is).

 
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The 4 Black guys were the worst of the bunch and based on some of the words they were using I wouldn’t be surprised if they started it merely because they saw people in MAGA hats. They deserve being outed more than the others. 

Which, btw, wearing MAGA hats while shouting chants in front of a national monument with a group of 100+ people is instigating if 1 person walking through a crowd with a drum and singing is. (I think neither is).
I didn’t think Phillips instigated.  I actually think he kept the boys from making a really bad mistake in physically interacting with the Black Israelites.

 
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