Maurice Washington Faces Charges

Moiraine said:
I'm not debating whether it was assault or not. I'm debating whether it CAN be assault if there is no physical force, and it can.
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I get it. But it’s nearly impossible to prove a verbal coercion if not recorded because there would be no signs of physical force. I’m not saying your not right- I’m just saying it’s nearly impossible to prove a conversation took place 

 
B.B. Hemingway said:
It sounds like the video shows her willingly performing oral sex on a dude. If there's no physical force how can you prove it was assault? By taking her word? 
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I've said multiple times there is almost 0 possibility she will be able to prove it was sexual assault, and I also find it unlikely it will ever even be a legal battle, and there are several reasons to doubt her claim.

But you can't know based on the video that it was willing. Please look up the legal definition of rape. I've posted the relevant parts earlier in the thread. It's like saying if someone looks like they like it, it can't be rape. That is false.

 
Huskers93-97 said:
I get it. But it’s nearly impossible to prove a verbal coercion if not recorded because there would be no signs of physical force. I’m not saying your not right- I’m just saying it’s nearly impossible to prove a conversation took place 
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That is completely beside the point I'm making. I am responding to people saying point blank it wasn't sexual assault because the people viewing it didn't think it looked like sexual assault. I'm not talking about how difficult or easy it would be for her to prove her word that it was sexual assault. I've already said multiple times it would be nearly impossible to prove. The boys will never be charged with sexual assault. That is almost guaranteed.

 
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Dbqgolfer said:
Whether this was a sexual assault or not, if he saved the video and sent it to her to shame/hurt her, which appears to be the case, that should be enough for him to lose the privilege  of playing football at the University of Nebraska.  
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Disagree.

huKSer said:
All this is why when I go on a date, our first stop is a notary public.  I have a legal document that states that any possible sexual encounters are consensual that we both sign before continuing on with the date.  Always better safe than sorry.

This is also why I don't get many second dates.
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FIFY

 
Moiraine said:
I've said multiple times there is almost 0 possibility she will be able to prove it was sexual assault, and I also find it unlikely it will ever even be a legal battle, and there are several reasons to doubt her claim.

But you can't know based on the video that it was willing. Please look up the legal definition of rape. I've posted the relevant parts earlier in the thread. It's like saying if someone looks like they like it, it can't be rape. That is false.
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I agree with you. 

StPaulHusker said:
You can’t say it was willingly.  She might have done it under fear of something worse happening to her
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I agree with you too.... But you can't punish on those kind of assumptions.

 
B.B. Hemingway said:
I agree with you. 

I agree with you too.... But you can't punish on those kind of assumptions.
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The only punishment I think is appropriate is for MW for keeping a video and sending it to the girl with the intent to shame her.

I have had no opinions of what or if any punishments come to the two males in the video or to the girl if it’s found she isn’t being honest about a rape.  All of that is irrelevant to me with regards to MW because he’s my RB on my team.  

 
StPaulHusker said:
The only punishment I think is appropriate is for MW for keeping a video and sending it to the girl with the intent to shame her.

I have had no opinions of what or if any punishments come to the two males in the video or to the girl if it’s found she isn’t being honest about a rape.  All of that is irrelevant to me with regards to MW because he’s my RB on my team.  
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Agreed.

 
Dbqgolfer said:
Whether this was a sexual assault or not, if he saved the video and sent it to her to shame/hurt her, which appears to be the case, that should be enough for him to lose the privilege  of playing football at the University of Nebraska.  
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I mean... that sounds noble, but if you kicked off every athlete from every sport who said or did something to hurt their ex, half of Nebraska sports would be gone. And that's girls and guys sports.

This kind of "solution" is not a real-world idea. Kids do dumb things. You can't default to the nuclear option because someone offended someone else.

 
knapplc said:
I mean... that sounds noble, but if you kicked off every athlete from every sport who said or did something to hurt their ex, half of Nebraska sports would be gone. And that's girls and guys sports.

This kind of "solution" is not a real-world idea. Kids do dumb things. You can't default to the nuclear option because someone offended someone else.
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Have we checked in with President Xi, to see how he handles these situations? 

 
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Waldo said:
This isn’t a rape/assault case though. One thing that seems certain is Mo sent the video.

Also, I don’t think race is important in this case. They had a prior relationship it seems and the video might have caused animosity. 

It’s important  to remember that they are teenagers. 
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Man I just feel bad for kids these days having to grow up in a one strike you are out knee jerk lynch mob environment. 

Yes, what Mo did was wrong, mean and in poor taste. 

But hes a f&$@ing kid. He shouldn’t have his life ruined over this. 

And as Moraine and others have said. Anyone that wants to throw out the “child porn” accusation and act like it’s equivalent to some dude with 1000 pictures of 8yos on his computer can piss off. Not even in the same universe. 

I hope the University stands by him and helps him learn from this. And no it’s not all about football. I’m just tired of our society destroying lives over one mistake

 
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