Holy $#@& Phil Steele

jaws said:
As a fan of a long time Big10 team, I can honestly say that most people were happy with Nebraska joining our conference. I don't remember thinking the Big10 was validated because Nebraska has struggled. I think most people understood that what happened at Nebraska could happen at their school if they made the wrong moves when hiring a new AD and HCs. I do remember hearing many Nebraska fans, online and in person, that thought the Big10 would be a cake walk. Maybe it will be for Nebraska in the future but that isn't how it has played out so far.

As for OSU being down, we will see, but I think some of you have a short memories. There hasn't been anything in their recent history that I would base that prediction off of. Yes, they just lost one of the best coaches in college football, but that doesn't mean they will all of a sudden be a consistent 9 win or less team. OSU's AD has made some great hires and I assume at this point that Day will is ready to take on the challenge. Maybe they won't be as good as they were during the Meyer years,  I can understand that, but they won't be a shell of their former self.  
Click to expand...
The big 10 was kind of down when we joined though, and we had just come off two seasons of nearly winning the big 12.  All the publications were picking us to win the conference, and we had no reason to think we would be worse in 2011 than 2010.  Ultimately that staff just couldn’t stop basic power running- it was the main reason we didn’t get a conference title in the Pelini years.  Not that it was the only problem but looking back if we could have just done that one basic thing we don’t have the Wisconsin results and have a title or two.  I agree about OSU though- the only real down year I can remember is when the tresses thing happened.  It’s the type of place that would have to get serious sanctions and hire someone colossally inept to really bad.  But I would be surprised if things don’t drop off a bit without Meyer, maybe just meaning not beating Michigan every year

 
It’s an interesting conversation but imo how a person views it is relative to how good their team has been in specific years. 80’s and 90’s Nebraska fans could pretty easily say the Big Ten sucked and they could also say our conference at the time was the big 2 and little 6. When you’re consistently in the top ten and regularly playing for natties of course everyone else seems inferior. And in the 2000’s and since we’ve joined the B1G of course it seems the B1G is tougher than we ever previously gave them credit for. The only real difference is we were extremely good in one of those scenarios and have been average or worse in the other.

Trying to be completely objective though, I would have to say the B1G is better top to bottom than the Big 8 or Big XII ever was. There are many similarities with the top couple teams in the conferences and eras but the mid and lower level teams of the B1G are definitely more solid than those of our prior conferences and if you sleep on them they can get you virtually any weekend.

As far as Phil Steele’s 10-2 prediction, I think that is a very reasonable and likely outcome for the Huskers given our schedule and apparent program trajectory. I understand why many Husker resist buying into that or think it’s unlikely given our track record of the last 15-20 years but I also find it highly annoying when the “realists” insist it’s just crazy and are adamant it won’t happen. I’ll always favor the Kool-Aid bunch over the naysayers and supposed realists. It seems the common stock market admonition of prior results do not guarantee future performance is completely lost on some people.

 
Hans Gruber said:
Nebraska is also his #1 most improved team and he said his main set of power ratings have the Huskers going 10-2.

I'm honestly worried now that Nebraska could have a pretty good 9-3 season, and then many fans would think it's a letdown season. 
Click to expand...
It would be if we aren't in the big 10 title game

 
JJ Husker said:
As far as Phil Steele’s 10-2 prediction, I think that is a very reasonable and likely outcome for the Huskers given our schedule and apparent program trajectory. I understand why many Husker resist buying into that or think it’s unlikely given our track record of the last 15-20 years but I also find it highly annoying when the “realists” insist it’s just crazy and are adamant it won’t happen. I’ll always favor the Kool-Aid bunch over the naysayers and supposed realists. It seems the common stock market admonition of prior results do not guarantee future performance is completely lost on some people.
Click to expand...


Word.

 
anyone have a list of 4-8 programs that finished 10-2 the following year........or better........?

just wondering how common the phenomena might be?

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Hunter94 said:
anyone have a list of 4-8 programs that finished 10-2 the following year........or better........?

just wondering how common the phenomena might be?
Click to expand...
Not common, but TCU went from 4-8 in 2013 to 12-1 in 2014. I haven't found a list specific to 4 win teams, but seems like a team goes from 0-4 wins to 9+ about every year- most aren't in major conferences though. TCU was in the Big 12 at that point though, so they're the recent P5 example - 12-13 Auburn (3-9 to 12-2) and 04-05 Penn State (4-7 to 11-1) are other encouraging examples.

 
GSG said:
tenor.gif
Click to expand...
Did you get Lexington Steele mixed up with Phil Steele?

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Hunter94 said:
anyone have a list of 4-8 programs that finished 10-2 the following year........or better........?

just wondering how common the phenomena might be?
Click to expand...


Husker in WI said:
Not common, but TCU went from 4-8 in 2013 to 12-1 in 2014. I haven't found a list specific to 4 win teams, but seems like a team goes from 0-4 wins to 9+ about every year- most aren't in major conferences though. TCU was in the Big 12 at that point though, so they're the recent P5 example - 12-13 Auburn (3-9 to 12-2) and 04-05 Penn State (4-7 to 11-1) are other encouraging examples.
Click to expand...


Moiraine said:
Dunno. But we went 4-8 then 9-3 in 2016. 
Click to expand...


And of course there is THIS example that may or may not apply here.

0-12 in 2015

6-7 in 2016

13-0 in 2017

:dunno

 
If anyone asks me what kind of world I want to leave for my children, it is not one where the Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin or Penn State dominates the conference. It is one where Iowa is our yearly b%@&h, and the previously mentioned second rate teams quake in terror of the Huskers.

Anika-Ronan(2019-03-10)2.jpg

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Back
Top