The Biden / Ukraine Scandal

NM11046 said:
I just want to clarify here, cuz I've seen it posted a couple times - Biden was only the messenger.  He happened to be the voice that day.  The Obama administration, as well as the governments of other nations and the Ukraine wanted that guy gone based on his actions.  This wasn't something Joe headed out to do inbetween work obligations - it was as a representative of the US as well as other nations.
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Yes....two years before his son was put on the board. 

Again, can someone tell me what are the crimes he allegedly broke?

 
Apsu said:
Why was the son of the US VP placed on the board of directors of a company under investigation at $50,000 per month?

His role and its influences should be investigated.
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You should read about Arbusto Energy some time. 

 
ZRod said:
I'm sure you could search the sites you previously used.
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Search engine algorythems have changed, old stories got buried, and some sites were blocked by Google and Yahoo.

And to be honest, with three young children including two infant twins, I really don't have the motivation to look.

 
Nebfanatic said:
Ok but while that may not be in Ukraines best interest I don't see it as being illegal or corrupt if that was the US's objective
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I don't see regime change wars to be in the interest of the American people, but they are in the interest of our banks, defense companies and energy companies. "We the People" are paying for this, but are not benefiting.

 
Apsu said:
Replace the name Hunter Biden with one of Trump's sleazy children, and some would call it impeachable collusion.
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Sure they would. Some are so far left or so far right, they will never be objective. But unless there was illegal activity, no point in investigating the Bidens.   

 
Apsu said:
I don't see regime change wars to be in the interest of the American people, but they are in the interest of our banks, defense companies and energy companies. "We the People" are paying for this, but are not benefiting. 
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You think removing a corrupt AG, who controls [read: can block] any and all prosecution in Ukraine, is somehow a bad thing for the Ukrainian people?

Unless you're a foreign policy isolationist and just opposed to any U.S. involvement whatsoever, I don't get that thought process. A less corrupt Ukraine benefits everyone.

A separate issue you've brought up is how Hunter Biden landed this gig in the first place. That's less of a Bidens issue specifically and more a "politically connected people can land cushy, high paying gigs doing nothing" issue.

 
Apsu said:
I don't see regime change wars to be in the interest of the American people, but they are in the interest of our banks, defense companies and energy companies. "We the People" are paying for this, but are not benefiting.
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Again, that all may be morally wrong, but it isn't corrupt or illegal. He was doing nothing wrong as he was working on behalf of our government and their interests. Whether or not that is what is in the best interest of the American people or Ukranian people is another subject entirely. But the idea Biden should be investigated for this is still looking to be nothing more than a distraction strategy/conspiracy theory. What is the crime?

 
Apsu said:
Search engine algorythems have changed, old stories got buried, and some sites were blocked by Google and Yahoo.

And to be honest, with three young children including two infant twins, I really don't have the motivation to look.
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Then we'll assume they don't exist, because they were not important enough for you to find again.

 
Decoy73 said:
Sure they would. Some are so far left or so far right, they will never be objective. But unless there was illegal activity, no point in investigating the Bidens.   
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The point of an investigation is to determine if a crime has been committed.

Nebfanatic said:
So I'll ask again since we still have't gotten a straight answer after being assured something was there...what is the crime???
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The point of an investigation is to determine if a crime has been committed.

 
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