The Biden / Ukraine Scandal

[knapplc]

Post-Maidan, pre-Trump.

Did I get that right?

The deeper you dig, the more likely you are to have to face the fact that this is a false story concocted by a desperate Trump trying to "both sides" his admission of wrongdoing related to the whistleblower complaint.

That you don't want to do that digging reflects poorly on you. It doesn't mean there's a story here.

 

[ZRod]

As I said (but did not provide a link), that Hunter may have been involved with the IMF facilitated looting of Ukrainian assets, that may have benefited Biden donors or friends.

No I don't have links, and I don't care to find them. I posted an opinion, and I am not seeking to make a legal case.

And in closing, I have already posted on this topic ten-fold my interest level in it.

You're free to post an opinion, but it shouldn't be a shock to receive blow back when you make claims that can't be supported by factual information.

There is quite a lot of information out there in the public sphere about this issue, but you don't seem to want to acknowledge it.

 

[Apsu]

This is manifestly not true.

Further, the people you're talking to in this thread are not Democrats. I'm not sure there are more than a handful of Democrats on this board.

I am new here, but I would assume that the majority here have a chosen political side.

And they will remain loyal to it like a Husker fan enduring the the Ohio State fiasco this past weekend.

 

[Nebfanatic]

As I said (but did not provide a link), that Hunter may have been involved with the IMF facilitated looting of Ukrainian assets, that may have benefited Biden donors or friends.

No I don't have links, and I don't care to find them. I posted an opinion, and I am not seeking to make a legal case.

And in closing, I have already posted on this topic ten-fold my interest level in it.

You may not be but Trump and his supporters are and that is the point. They want to make it seem like Biden is on a level playing field as Trump and should be investigated for crimes. Still nothing you have posted is criminal or even corrupt. It sucks for Ukraine, but thats foreign policy for ya. The US is out to make the US better for the most part and that doesn't always mean for our citizens. I'm still failing to see what Biden did wrong. What you are describing seems to be the US capitalizing on regime change. While that may be something we don't agree with it is neither corrupt nor illegal. What should be investigated exactly? 

 

[knapplc]

I am new here, but I would assume that the majority here have a chosen political side.

What's your chosen side?

 

[Apsu]

I’m pretty sure he’s not a democrat. 

I'm not a Democrat, but I'm pretty far to the left on many things.

 

[Nebfanatic]

Post-Maidan, pre-Trump.

Did I get that right?

Probably zilch.

But I never said that he did.

Hunter Biden was not a US official, he was the son of the VP at the time.

That second post is in response to me saying this 

On behalf of the US government. You keep leaving that part out. If it wasn't Biden it would have been another US official.

Which was in response to you saying Biden got the guy fired. So, ya kinda did say that.

 

[Apsu]

You do realize this was in behalf of the us government and most of our European allies....2 years before his son was put on the board. 

What makes you suspect influence peddling?

The IMF did facilitate a sell-off of Ukrainian assets to the west.
Yes I know, I am not providing any links, nor do I care to. I am posting opinion of mild interest to me, based on past research that I do not care to do again.

 

[knapplc]

You're free to post an opinion, but it shouldn't be a shock to receive blow back when you make claims that can't be supported by factual information.

Time and time and time and time and time again it is, though. People constantly express open frustration when their opinion is skewered by fact in this forum. We've seen so many right-leaning posters come in, drop Fox News talking points as if they're true, then get upset when those of us who respect fact over partisanship push back.

I know I should not be amazed by this, but I find it fascinating every time.

 

[Nebfanatic]

I am new here, but I would assume that the majority here have a chosen political side.

And they will remain loyal to it like a Husker fan enduring the the Ohio State fiasco this past weekend.

Or we are looking at the facts and remaining loyal to the truth. Again what about the IMF selling off assets to the west prove corruption on Bidens part? That sounds like it was the US's plan.

 

[Apsu]

What's your chosen side?

Right now that would be Democratic Socialism.

In my opinion the nation has moved too far in the direction of predatory capitalism.

 

[knapplc]

Right now that would be Democratic Socialism.

In my opinion the nation has moved too far in the direction of predatory capitalism.

Radical.

I kid, I kid.

 

[Apsu]

You may not be but Trump and his supporters are and that is the point. They want to make it seem like Biden is on a level playing field as Trump and should be investigated for crimes.

Let me be clear about this... Trump in a huge orange anal wart.
Neither he nor his buddy Rudy are capable of honesty.

 

[Apsu]

Radical.

I kid, I kid.

Darn straight!!!

 

[Nebfanatic]

Let me be clear about this... Trump in a huge orange anal wart.

Neither he nor his buddy Rudy are capable of honesty.

And who are the people pushing this narrative on Biden the hardest?

It's those 2 lyin dingbats