What did we learn? (The NW edition, sponsored by the MASH 4077)

CapoValley said:
I mean, you spend a lot of time on here digging up tweets and obscure stats to justify that things maybe aren’t as bad as they seem. 
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Someone has to be the yin to your yang.

You posted a tweet about how Nebraska scoring against Ohio st kept a “not been shutout” streak alive. As if that’s any kind of silver lining. What if someone did that about Callahan after the 04 beatings in Oklahoma and Lubbock?
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Now you're inventing things to blame on me.

I agree with you that it’s madness people think Vedral is somehow better than Martinez but to taunt another persons opinions on here does nothing to further discussion, of which there are tons we can talk about here. Good and bad. 
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My post that you quoted above also applies to this statement.

 
Hayseed said:
It may turn out that Vedral flat sucks, but this 'coach knows best' crap is getting old and the idea that I want the guy to play because he's a small town Nebraska guy is exactly the opposite of what I've ever thought or said. I assume that the coach tries to play the most capable guy and doesn't play a bunch of politics to make a point, whether it's talking up his chosen starter or hamstringing the backup to make himself look smart. I get a kick out of the sage advice when 'coach knows best'  comes from a guy who coaches the middle school team and always lets you know that. Let's ask Michael Jordan. ;)
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The best part about this...is your name is Hayseed!  Hahaha

 
PaulCrewe said:
Unfortunately fans have seen that play out this year and have seen glimpses of 2018 AM, but mostly find a guy that looks more like a freshman this year.

Your post about Vedral not doing anything on offense pretty much mirrors what the offense was doing with AM From pretty much the 2nd quarter up until the injury.
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Yes, the offense struggled a lot yesterday going into the wind, against a strong defense.  Martinez was 65% passing (with a number of drops) with no INT’s. While he didn’t get the big plays like we have seen from him, I think that is due to NW’s style of defense and Frost going a more conservative style of offense (which I thought was smart, considering NW’s offense). Crap, the team was skewered for playing loose with the ball against Illinois and giving that bad offense short fields all game. 

 
Mavric said:
That's his point.  A lot of people are claiming that it "looked better".  But that doesn't make it true.  And the stats really don't back it up.

And your last comment has nothing to do with the previous discussion and isn't anything he was saying.
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Would you say Martinez has or has not made the most of what he’s been asked to do, and been give for majority of the season?   That’s the difference.  You can only do so much with what you’re given.  That was my  whole original point of Vedral pretty much making the most of every play.  If someone can point out specific examples of things Vedral should have done differently, I would love to hear them.  
 

Im not dense in the fact that I know Martinez is the better player but to me, Vedral and the offense as a whole looked better when he was in.  

 
Look, we can all agree that we want to be 6-0 and that we want AM to what Jalen Hurts...

It isn't happening like that but he is still really good.  If Vedral starts, I hope he goes 31/31 for 400 yards and 5 TD's and another 100 yards rushing, just like we all do.

 
CapoValley said:
You didn’t make this thread?
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I did.  I thought it was an interesting historical footnote.  And I thought I'd throw in a little old school Keith Olberman for the few that might remember it and get a smile out of it.

You're inventing the part where I was trying to sell it as some sort of silver lining.

 
Mavric said:
I did.  I thought it was an interesting historical footnote.  And I thought I'd throw in a little old school Keith Olberman for the few that might remember it and get a smile out of it.

You're inventing the part where I was trying to sell it as some sort of silver lining.
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You thought it was an interesting historical footnote after an utter embarrassment of a game. 

Maybe lets just agree it was incredibly convenient. And that Martinez is better than Vedral. 

 
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BlitzFirst said:
yeah I don't know why to be honest.  Frost put in McCafferry and burned an entire game for 1 play when he could have put in Bunch and not burned anything

I think Frost is a moron for doing that to be honest.
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I don't see how this matters at all. I like McCaffrey, but he's not the 2nd coming of Tommie Frazier. Luke didn't even play much quarterback in HS. 

He's a tough runner no matter what, a better choice over Bunch, and I don't think it'll matter if he plays in 3 more games or not.

 
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Mavric said:
Would you say you are often painting things as being worse than they actually are?
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I suppose it all depends on your perception on how things actually are. Some would agree with me, some, including you, wouldn’t.  

Did you make a post how we weren’t shut out when Riley got obliterated by Ohio st in 2016?  It was still a neat stat. 

 
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ColoradoHusk said:
Again, Vedral looks decisive because they aren’t giving him reads. Frost is just calling straight runs for him. The offense will be limited if Vedral is the starting QB. 
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How do you know he didn’t have any reads. He probably knows Frost’s offense and the  playbook better than AM does. He shouldn’t have been simplifying it for him. 

 
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