EZ-E
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Enhance
Administrator
It looks like he was banned for repeated personal attacks back in 2013. The last of his posting activity from that time frame was fairly contentious.
It's been six years. Hopefully he's grown up. I'm not necessarily opposed to allowing him back, but I do think that a) he should be on a short leash and b) he needs to change his name from @Definitely_Not_EZ-E. We have plenty of reason to keep his ban permanent and he shouldn't be flaunting it for the board to see.
It's been six years. Hopefully he's grown up. I'm not necessarily opposed to allowing him back, but I do think that a) he should be on a short leash and b) he needs to change his name from @Definitely_Not_EZ-E. We have plenty of reason to keep his ban permanent and he shouldn't be flaunting it for the board to see.
Thanks_Tom RR
New member
Looks like EZ-E is a Toys R Us kid because he will never grown up.
I am banning him. If he wants to come back in a more subtle way, I also would not be opposed to giving him a short leash. Just not this way.
BigRedMax
Administrator
I got this email from him on Thursday and have shared it with Mavric by PM and want to share it here as well.
I'm inclined to give him a second chance but would like a consensus from the Mod group before doing that as I don't want to go against what has been traditionally done here.
Here's the email:
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Hello. This message is for David, or maybe more appropriately, to whom it may concern regarding posting privileges on HuskerBoard as I’m aware you’ve purchased it.
My name is Ethan Bartels, Huskerboard knew me as EZ-E. I believe I was well-respected on the board as I was voted the Head Coach for the year 2013 by other posters. In that same year six years ago, my posting privileges on Huskerboard were revoked. I am not terribly certain anymore what the exact reason for my banning was, but I’m certain it was a serious of things that led to me being permanently banned.
To give some background, I was 24 years old at the time I was banned; I am now 30 with a wife and a son of my own. What I’m getting at is that I believe enough time has elapsed and I have matured enough that incidents regarding board rules violations are well in the rear view mirror for myself and the nucleus of posters that made that board extremely active and one of the better boards in HuskerNation.
In my time away, I have developed an even stronger network of people who are very well connected to Frost’s coaching and support staff. I knew about Wandale Robinson flipping to Nebraska on 11/27/2019; roughly a week before an in home visit actually happened. I can provide email transcripts for proof of this. I was also cued in on the Philadelphia meeting between Moos, Frost, and Davison the week prior. I have countless emails from people who now are on Scott’s support staff detailing exactly how it all went down. I also, upon request get practice reports. I received a pre-camp, mid-camp, and post-camp breakdown this year of intel I’ve not seen posted anywhere.
What I’m getting at is that I believe I bring value to Huskerboard and I believe 6 years away is punishment enough. If you still believe a permanent ban is in order, I respect the decision and this subject will be dropped.
Thank you for your time and GBR
I'm inclined to give him a second chance but would like a consensus from the Mod group before doing that as I don't want to go against what has been traditionally done here.
Here's the email:
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Hello. This message is for David, or maybe more appropriately, to whom it may concern regarding posting privileges on HuskerBoard as I’m aware you’ve purchased it.
My name is Ethan Bartels, Huskerboard knew me as EZ-E. I believe I was well-respected on the board as I was voted the Head Coach for the year 2013 by other posters. In that same year six years ago, my posting privileges on Huskerboard were revoked. I am not terribly certain anymore what the exact reason for my banning was, but I’m certain it was a serious of things that led to me being permanently banned.
To give some background, I was 24 years old at the time I was banned; I am now 30 with a wife and a son of my own. What I’m getting at is that I believe enough time has elapsed and I have matured enough that incidents regarding board rules violations are well in the rear view mirror for myself and the nucleus of posters that made that board extremely active and one of the better boards in HuskerNation.
In my time away, I have developed an even stronger network of people who are very well connected to Frost’s coaching and support staff. I knew about Wandale Robinson flipping to Nebraska on 11/27/2019; roughly a week before an in home visit actually happened. I can provide email transcripts for proof of this. I was also cued in on the Philadelphia meeting between Moos, Frost, and Davison the week prior. I have countless emails from people who now are on Scott’s support staff detailing exactly how it all went down. I also, upon request get practice reports. I received a pre-camp, mid-camp, and post-camp breakdown this year of intel I’ve not seen posted anywhere.
What I’m getting at is that I believe I bring value to Huskerboard and I believe 6 years away is punishment enough. If you still believe a permanent ban is in order, I respect the decision and this subject will be dropped.
Thank you for your time and GBR
BIGREDIOWAN
Mods
Well I guess I'm willing to give him a chance, but we've never really done that. At least from what I can remember......he did take the time to craft a pretty decent email to the board to explain his position which I can appreciate.
Thanks_Tom RR
New member
On multiple occasions, we have let permabanned members return under a new alias. However, it has been routine to ban that member if they violate any board rules (as they are put on a short leash) or if they flaunt their return (e.g., MattyIce). If we want to let EZ-E return, I have no problem so long as he is not parading around that he skirted the permaban. We have plenty of “salt-water aquarium guys” to bring “insider info” to the board.
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seaofred92
New member
I am in agreement that the leash would need to be short. I’m not familiar with his personal attacks from 2013 but I have seen successful turnarounds of members on the other board that I moderate (UConn board). Given the amount of time and the well written e-mail, I’d be okay with it but agree that the leash would need to be very short.
Enhance
Administrator
The "matured" and reformed EZ-E chose to make his triumphant comeback by parading around the board under a username that drew clear attention to the fact he was previously banned.
Matured indeed. Give me a break.
I'll stand by what I said previously - I'll acquiesce to his return, but not out of pity and not because he provides some unique level of insight. We have plenty of the latter already. If he's willing to play by the rules this time and not flaunt his previous ban, then fine. But, I think the standard should be that his margin of error is virtually nil, and this should be made explicitly clear to him by whomever allows his return.
Matured indeed. Give me a break.
I'll stand by what I said previously - I'll acquiesce to his return, but not out of pity and not because he provides some unique level of insight. We have plenty of the latter already. If he's willing to play by the rules this time and not flaunt his previous ban, then fine. But, I think the standard should be that his margin of error is virtually nil, and this should be made explicitly clear to him by whomever allows his return.
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Thanks_Tom RR
New member
So, EZ-E is clearly making a public display of his return. I could have predicted that since we activated his banned account. That cat was out of the bag. Here is a comment that has me more concerned:
I hope we can make clear this is not going to be an ongoing policy. Though, I am not sure what would qualify this situation as unique. Either way, I hope this is not pandora's box. A precedent of appeals seems like a bad one. We have banned board members for a reason.
I hope we can make clear this is not going to be an ongoing policy. Though, I am not sure what would qualify this situation as unique. Either way, I hope this is not pandora's box. A precedent of appeals seems like a bad one. We have banned board members for a reason.
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Enhance
Administrator
I had hoped that he would be returning under a different user name, but alas, that's impractical now.
Most of the reaction to him returning seems to be positive and/or neutral. Quite a few people have expressed gratitude for evaluating this situation and allowing EZ-E back. A few appear to be concerned or critical.
In my opinion, the best message to send is a uniform one. I think we've done a good job in the past of explaining that board moderation is done on a case-by-case basis. We should not go into detail about why EZ-E was allowed back or what he did to be allowed back, primarily because I don't want a bunch of previously banned members sending us heartfelt apologies asking to be allowed back in. (I'm not even convinced EZ-E's was genuine.) If we lay out a road map for it then there's a chance we'll get more of it, and to @Thanks_Tom RR's point, these folks were banned for very good reasons.
I'm inclined to tell folks that this was a special circumstances and is no way indicative of future decisions.
Most of the reaction to him returning seems to be positive and/or neutral. Quite a few people have expressed gratitude for evaluating this situation and allowing EZ-E back. A few appear to be concerned or critical.
In my opinion, the best message to send is a uniform one. I think we've done a good job in the past of explaining that board moderation is done on a case-by-case basis. We should not go into detail about why EZ-E was allowed back or what he did to be allowed back, primarily because I don't want a bunch of previously banned members sending us heartfelt apologies asking to be allowed back in. (I'm not even convinced EZ-E's was genuine.) If we lay out a road map for it then there's a chance we'll get more of it, and to @Thanks_Tom RR's point, these folks were banned for very good reasons.
I'm inclined to tell folks that this was a special circumstances and is no way indicative of future decisions.
Huskerzoo
New member
I'm sure I'm not going to articulate this well but I think that we have to say something but not really share the process by which it all came about. Something along the lines of "moderation decisions are made on a case by case basis. With EZ-E there were significant conversations occurring outside of the public eye that were discussed at length by moderators and board admins. Based on these conversations it was decided the spirit of the ban had been respected enough to warrant reconsideration contingent upon strict adherence to board policy."
By and large, I think if people want to come back after ~5 years we should at least consider it assuming that they ever offered anything of use. EZ-E has consistently had fairly good insight into the program and recruiting. I think with other members who offer less meaningful contributions to the board, the math of reinstatement after a ban would be different.
Just my two cents.
BigRedMax
Administrator
As far as coming back under a different user name is concerned I have allowed one poster to do that on HuskerMax and it came back to bite me. Once the person was "outed" as a previous poster and allowed by me to come back under a different user name it created a lot of issues.
I think honesty is always the best policy and if a banned user does come back under a different user name and email they should do it without our assistance and knowledge. It's usually not hard to identify returning banned users based on posting style.
Making EZ-E use his original user name lets everyone know that he was allowed back and didn't sneak in the back door. He also knows that he is on a short leash and however you as moderators want to address that on the board is fine with me. I like the case by case basis explanation.
On another note I only had two moderators send me their snail mail address for the Husker swag I want to mail to each of you. Please send it to me by PM.
I think honesty is always the best policy and if a banned user does come back under a different user name and email they should do it without our assistance and knowledge. It's usually not hard to identify returning banned users based on posting style.
Making EZ-E use his original user name lets everyone know that he was allowed back and didn't sneak in the back door. He also knows that he is on a short leash and however you as moderators want to address that on the board is fine with me. I like the case by case basis explanation.
On another note I only had two moderators send me their snail mail address for the Husker swag I want to mail to each of you. Please send it to me by PM.
Thanks_Tom RR
New member
Fair point, Max.