Should Frost hand off play calling?

Should Frost hand off play calling to Lubick?

  • Yes, let the new guy call plays.

    Votes: 15 23.4%

  • No, let Frost keep calling plays. But for the love of all that's holy would you please RUN THE DAMN

    Votes: 25 39.1%

  • Let the QB call his own plays.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Call plays based on the Huskerboard gameday thread.

    Votes: 24 37.5%
  • Total voters
    64
Husker in WI said:
Right, it's one of those things where a bad call can look good and vice versa depending on the players. To be honest, I've heard very few critiques with any specifics other than the goal line at Purdue, and a general "obviously they're bad playcalls because we didn't score." "Too many screens" as well, but watching that compilation of all of them there really weren't that many. I don't think we can draw a complete conclusion on Frost's playcalling based on one year.
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Several points to weigh:

1.  Play calling does include the overall scheme / type of offense and formations etc to some critics.   Some feel that it is much more than simply run vs pass stats and there are many types of each category.  Some runs work better than others depending on circumstances.  

2.   Blocking techniques and power formations vs run from passing sets and vice versa. 

3.   Down and distance when runs vs passes are called and defensive alignments / strengths & weaknesses relatively between teams etc. 

4.  Overall, play calling is often more “art and feel” (intuitive) than random or even science.  

I dont think we have nearly enough data (just two short seasons) under tough circumstances with talent, systemic changes etc.  
The offense has moved the ball fairly well at times stat 

wise but inconsistent too often.  Red zone scoring and point production was subpar but field position has been subpar which usually negatively impacts offensive success.  

Frost needs more time before we should blame playcalling unduely.

 
Landlord said:
nobody feels sorry for him people are just laughing at how dumb your comment of coaches only working 8 months out of the year is.
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Its not dumb by any means.  If Frost is working 50 weeks a year at 60 hrs a week he is not very efficient, especially with all the staff he has.  Osborne did much more with less staff and managed to spend several long fishing vacations around the world.  Frost likes his fishing and family times as well.  

 
Husker in WI said:
Right, it's one of those things where a bad call can look good and vice versa depending on the players. To be honest, I've heard very few critiques with any specifics other than the goal line at Purdue, and a general "obviously they're bad playcalls because we didn't score." "Too many screens" as well, but watching that compilation of all of them there really weren't that many. I don't think we can draw a complete conclusion on Frost's playcalling based on one year.
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That Purdue play was nothing more than a twist on a triple option.  A missed block, and an easy one at that, and wandale walks in.  

 
Mavric said:
:facepalm:
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hes basically not working this spring.    No practice, no players and no recruiting.  This is different but we havent even had bowl games the past two seasons so recruiting and film review is basically it.  He doesnt even do a TV show that I am aware of.  

I would guess he has six or more extra staff / coaches and flies by private plane.   He does short pressers after practice a couple times a week.   He meets with players and staff but - frankly the organization of defense and special teams is apparently done by others as rarely has much to say about those.  

Film is reviewed and edited down by GAs etc 

Practice time is limited by NCAA.   He attends other sports events for fun presumably.  

Somebody fill me in just what he spends all his time doing.   

 
84HuskerLaw said:
hes basically not working this spring.    No practice, no players and no recruiting.  This is different but we havent even had bowl games the past two seasons so recruiting and film review is basically it.  He doesnt even do a TV show that I am aware of.  

I would guess he has six or more extra staff / coaches and flies by private plane.   He does short pressers after practice a couple times a week.   He meets with players and staff but - frankly the organization of defense and special teams is apparently done by others as rarely has much to say about those.  

Film is reviewed and edited down by GAs etc 

Practice time is limited by NCAA.   He attends other sports events for fun presumably.  

Somebody fill me in just what he spends all his time doing.   
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Mavric said:
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:lol:

I'll try.....

Other than in the past when we had overpowering O-Lines that used to try to challenge themselves by telling the other team what play was coming up next...

We should have someone calling plays that catches the other team off guard.

I would hope Frost calls plays ''by committee'' to a certain extent..With input from his OC and possibly his running game coordinator. 

Otherwise, one person would likely tend to show trends..(My biggest worry about having someone like Lubbick as our OC because of his shared History with Frost...Maybe thinking too much alike).

It would be interesting to see play calling alternated by Offensive series, quarter, or maybe just games to see what works.

Seems like there are G.A.s or other helpers keeping track of what your upcoming opponent tends to call depending on down/distance/clock and adjusting their Defensive calls accordingly. 

Having more than the same person calling plays all the time would help counteract that.

 
84HuskerLaw said:
hes basically not working this spring.    No practice, no players and no recruiting.  This is different but we havent even had bowl games the past two seasons so recruiting and film review is basically it.  He doesnt even do a TV show that I am aware of.  

I would guess he has six or more extra staff / coaches and flies by private plane.   He does short pressers after practice a couple times a week.   He meets with players and staff but - frankly the organization of defense and special teams is apparently done by others as rarely has much to say about those.  

Film is reviewed and edited down by GAs etc 

Practice time is limited by NCAA.   He attends other sports events for fun presumably.  

Somebody fill me in just what he spends all his time doing.   
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I coached my sons little league team and it was an extra 18-20 hrs a week. For 4th-7th graders! 
 

My dad was a college coach in the 80-90s before all this helpful technology. He put in easily 60-70 hrs a week. You have zero, zilch, nada, niet idea of what you speak and I can’t believe I ever read one of your long winded posts thinking you had some insight lolol...

it will be nice just to skip over them from now on. 

 
I am I said:
I coached my sons little league team and it was an extra 18-20 hrs a week. For 4th-7th graders! 
 

My dad was a college coach in the 80-90s before all this helpful technology. He put in easily 60-70 hrs a week. You have zero, zilch, nada, niet idea of what you speak and I can’t believe I ever read one of your long winded posts thinking you had some insight lolol...

it will be nice just to skip over them from now on. 
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60 tp 70 hrs a week year round?   Before the helpful tech and before staffing nearly doubled.  During the season maybe.  

 
84HuskerLaw said:
60 tp 70 hrs a week year round?   Before the helpful tech and before staffing nearly doubled.  During the season maybe.  
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On game days, Frost is doing team related activities basically all-day, and then he's back watching film bright and early on Sunday.  Then it's at least 12 hours a day Monday-Friday.  During the season, I can see Frost and the rest of the coaching staff putting in 80-100 hour weeks.  It's probably 40-60 during the offseason, with a few weeks off where he's able to completely get away from things.

 
84HuskerLaw said:
60 tp 70 hrs a week year round?   Before the helpful tech and before staffing nearly doubled.  During the season maybe.  
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This is quite possibly one of the most ignorant and uninformed posts about coaching i have ever seen. There is so much more with coaching college football today than when Osborne coached.

 
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