Will There Be a 2020 Football Season?

Chances of a 2020 season?

  • Full 12 Game Schedule

    Votes: 20 36.4%
  • Shortened Season

    Votes: 13 23.6%
  • No Games Played

    Votes: 22 40.0%

  • Total voters
    55
  • Poll closed .
So what’s the alternative if they cannot play? If they don’t play can they just do a year of S&C/drills within the program? I would 100% argue that it’s safer for them to be in this structured program than back at home. Especially those from minority communities. The thing that I don’t get about the positive tests: 

-Why don’t they ever say how many are hospital bound/Asymptomatic 

 cases are reported from these numbers to calculate risk from this group? These are probably some of the healthiest people in the world. The likelihood of anyone dying within a program is exceptionally low (I realize they can transfer the virus to others yes). Probably less than if they go about their daily lives unchecked. Combine this with frequent testing and setting parameters of where and when they can go to places makes it even safer. I would 100% be okay for football to return even without fans if the alternative is no season. 
I did a little math a couple days ago. Based on the deaths by age group demographic, 15-24 year olds have about a 1 in 320,000 chance of dying because of Covid. If we figure in that half that age group is girls, I would guess the chances for a male of that age would be more like 1 in 640,000. Considering D1 football players are in the top tier of health and conditioning, and toss in regular testing and a structured atmosphere, I have no idea how high that denominator number could go but I would say the chances of dying from virtually any other cause would dwarf the chance that Covid might get one of them. Also, consider most in that age group are pretty much going to do what they want, I don’t think participating in football raises their risk in any determinable way.

Caveat- this is only based on recorded deaths by age group through June. It does not account for any other possible health detriments which may be more pervasive and/or serious.

 
Keep in mind things are trending away from college being amateurs. You can make money off likeness and talks of paying players


Trending, but not quite there yet. I believe the NCAA will be fighting that tooth and nail as well as college administrators. The whole entire model, at this time, is based on the amateur model. 

This is my thought: if the NCAA and P5 football was smart, they would take this season and cancel it and take the loss and use that loss to argue that "we have no money to pay college athletes." They could argue that due to the cancellation of the season, it will take us 10 years to recover. I would play the long game on this one. 

I still believe that there will be major rumblings among student-athletes if they are playing and there are no other students on campus. The optics are not good on this one and will expose the NCAA and P5 which they cannot easily justify and rationalize. We have seen the rumblings among student-athletes in the PAC 12. And given the nature of student activism of recent note, I could easily see this as the next major protest that could shake college athletics to its core. 

 
I still believe that the optics of having no students on campus while there is a football team or other student-athletes in other sports on campus while other students are not on campus is a bad look for colleges and will not further the argument that the NCAA has of the amateur-academic model.
No it certainly won't.  But at this point why bother?

 
I get what you are saying, but when it’s done by certain people to deflect any blame for how things have been handled in the U.S. then it’s done for pure political reasons. 


Or racist reasons.

I can use white sheets on my bed and that's perfectly fine. Some other people use white sheets for entirely different reasons, and that's not fine.

When a person who has a decades-long history of racism says/does something that is possibly racist, they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt and they should be called out for influencing vulnerable people.

 
Or racist reasons.

I can use white sheets on my bed and that's perfectly fine. Some other people use white sheets for entirely different reasons, and that's not fine.

When a person who has a decades-long history of racism says/does something that is possibly racist, they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt and they should be called out for influencing vulnerable people.
People can downplay it all they want but we saw the effects of the presidents words in other peoples actions. 

 
I did a little math a couple days ago. Based on the deaths by age group demographic, 15-24 year olds have about a 1 in 320,000 chance of dying because of Covid. If we figure in that half that age group is girls, I would guess the chances for a male of that age would be more like 1 in 640,000. 
I think I see what you’re getting at, but you lost me here. Where does it say male fatality rate is lower than females? 

 
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I did a little math a couple days ago. Based on the deaths by age group demographic, 15-24 year olds have about a 1 in 320,000 chance of dying because of Covid. If we figure in that half that age group is girls, I would guess the chances for a male of that age would be more like 1 in 640,000.
That's not how ratios work. Unless you can show that the likelihood of contracting covid is different for each gender, then the ratio will be the same 1 in 320,000 for both genders.

 
He has myocarditis. We know nothing more at this point, and of course we’ve got someone ‘reporting’ it as fact that he’s looking at permanent heart damage. 
Might does not equate to fact. Given how long we've known about COVID we don't know if any damage will be lifelong to anyone. That said myocarditis is a serious condition that does not always recover 100%. Though most cases of this and pulmonary fibrosis will likely recover, there is a possibility some people deal with these conditions long term. At a minimum this guys heart won't be back to normal for 3 months. That's pretty serious in and of itself. 

 
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Might does not equate to fact. Given how long we've known about COVID we don't know if any damage will be lifelong to anyone. That said myocarditis is a serious condition that does not always recover 100%. Though most cases of this and pulmonary fibrosis will likely recover, there is a possibility some people deal with these conditions long term. At a minimum this guys heart won't be back to normal for 3 months. That's pretty serious in and of itself. 
It really doesn't even matter.  All the matters is the fear part of it.  Parents are not going to be okay with their kid playing sports in the fall.  We have already had two instances (football and legion ball) here in Omaha and it is not even "bad" here.  

 
It really doesn't even matter.  All the matters is the fear part of it.  Parents are not going to be okay with their kid playing sports in the fall.  We have already had two instances (football and legion ball) here in Omaha and it is not even "bad" here.  
I guess that's kind of what I'm saying too. Regardless of if its permanent or not no one wants a heart problem for 3 to 6 months. That is a scary prospect for most people. 

 
I guess that's kind of what I'm saying too. Regardless of if its permanent or not no one wants a heart problem for 3 to 6 months. That is a scary prospect for most people. 
Yep!

This is my guess but I think OPS wanted to shut down sports BUT they did not want to be the ones to shut it down.  They hoped the NSAA would do it and be the "bad guy" but the NSAA didn't do it and now no one knows what to do.  Private schools can shut down sports but they know they will lose kids to schools that have not shut down.  

 
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