teachercd
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Well, I think with the flu it is different because we have all grown up with it...like...it isn't new to us and it isn't the top news story.
Will There Be a 2020 Football Season?
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Nebfanatic
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You misunderstand. The worst flu season in recent memory still isn't close to COVID. They aren't that comparable. CDC estimates 61k deaths that flu season too so idk where you got 80k. They aren't really even close. We can gather more studying MERS and SARS.
Edit: now with that said it is a pet peeve of mine when people say things aren't comparable because you can compare everything, they don't have to be the same that isnt the purpose of a comparison. So for breaking my own pet peeve I apologize
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Huskers93-97
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Is it deadlier than the flu though? If you had no flu vaccine how many more would it kill? Also coronavirus is lingering around longer so it has a chance to kill more due to longevity. The reason everyone accepts the flu is because we all know it has always been around, we know there is no cure so we accept it because we can’t change it. Coronavirus is new, if the day comes we have a vaccine and it comes back every year like the flu- like some believe it may be here to stay. 10 years from now we will become numb to it just like the flu and accept it
schriznoeder
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Nebfanatic
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when we have a vaccine to mitigate its mortality and spread as well as a latent immunity we will be less worried about COVID 19? Well shoot, I guess you're right!
Sker fer life
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Not trying to be Debbie Downer by sayin it, but I can't see how playing a full season is going to be accomplished. I envision the plug being pulled 3 or 4 games in. Lets say one player on a team tests positive for covid, ok, quarantine that guy, what about the rest of the team that has been in contact with him ? Its going to be a nightmare trying to manage all of this and I honestly can't see how it can be done.
teachercd
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Yep!Have to keep all the kids in their specific groups for weights/conditioning.
Then they open up open gyms, etc. and everyone's mixed together.
And athletes don't have to mask up...but everyone else does...and if you are outside you don't have to mask up. Basically no one knows what is going on. Ha
Cdog923
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I'm honestly thinking we're going to open normally, then within 2 weeks, be back to distance learning.
suh_fan93
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I think you're just being realistic. I don't think we see a full season either and who knows when the plug will get pulled or if we even make it to the first game. For all I know we could make it quite a ways into the season? So many unknowns.
HuskerNation1
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Jason Sitoke
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/26/health/flu-deaths-2017--2018-cdc-bn/index.html
I think we’re talking past each other. I’m not comparing the infections pathogenically. All I’m saying is folks that say ‘this is just the flu’ are wrong. But people saying ‘this isn’t just the flu’ are also perhaps understating how devastating the flu is every year, as well as it’s long term effects.
I suppose when things become ‘normal’ and part of the vernacular, human beings learn to calm themselves and adapt. I don’t bat an eye when someone in my family comes down with the flu. I ask them if they want me to bring soup or something. It never really occurs to me that more than a handful of people of all ages die of it every year.
WyoHusker56
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That's a fair criticism for sure. About a week before that peak, the governor also added in the closing of bars, indoor gyms, fitness clubs or centers, indoor movie theaters, waterparks and tubing operations. So, you can certainly imagine those contributed to the slow down, but as they only happened about a week before the peak they likely weren't the cause of the initial downturn because of the incubation time and testing delays.
Considering those were the only changes from the cases taking off and then peaking and slowing down it's definitely safe to say that closing high touch/close proximity businesses and masks have contributed to the ease of the spread.
However, you can look at other countries as they've reopened places like gyms and movie theaters. Many haven't seen a major rise in cases, but they do still require masks.
Enhance
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I think there are some comparisons we can make but, to your point, we just have to be incredibly careful in doing so.
For example, I did read an interesting account from a Houston nurse who said they're pretty fed up with the narrative that their hospitals have been 'overwhelmed' because of coronavirus. One in particular said that yes, their hospital is pushing its limits, COVID patients have had to wait in the ER lobbies with other patients, and they've had to divert traumas to other hospitals because they simply didn't have the manpower.
But, they also said this is literally their life every single flu season at this hospital. They deal with the exact same problems and say that it's just as overwhelming; yet, nobody seems to really care. Can we blame people? Eh... maybe not. The flu has become sort of a standard that a lot of people generally seem to not care much about. But, I do think it touches on the other point you brought up that maybe wearing masks in public more is the right thing to do.
Nebfanatic
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This will be the start of coaches wearing masks for every game so they don't have to hold a clipboard in front of their face to hide what they are saying
Notre Dame Joe
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Rutgers planning out their stadium capacity indicates there is going to be something going on in the stadium. Are they moving hard and fast on your all conference season?
Then I guess AZ was also the first state to widely ignore a mask mandate.
I keep record when I enter a small business, 1 out of every 3 patrons is masked at best. Big business box stores don't let you in without one. My favorite is the bars. the governor closed "the bars" but not restaurants that serve alcohol. I discovered that some of the bars I've been frequenting have been restaurants all along even though I never recall seeing a menu.
Then I guess AZ was also the first state to widely ignore a mask mandate.
I keep record when I enter a small business, 1 out of every 3 patrons is masked at best. Big business box stores don't let you in without one. My favorite is the bars. the governor closed "the bars" but not restaurants that serve alcohol. I discovered that some of the bars I've been frequenting have been restaurants all along even though I never recall seeing a menu.
Hilltop
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Another flaw with our society regarding "the flu" is that people call a lot of illnesses the flu when they really aren't. It desensitizes us to the real flu's severity.
Decoy73
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We pretty much all agree that without students physically in classrooms, there will be no football, correct?
So let’s say their will be students in classrooms, but with precautions like distancing and masks. To minimize the spread this seems like a reasonable goal to start out the school year. Until....
Friday night rolls around and it’s perfectly acceptable for a bunch of students from different schools and/or communities to be smashing each other face to face for two-three hours. Spit flying, heavy breathing, etc.
Now back to school Monday where the aforementioned students begin to spread the wealth.
A month into the season schools across the state are canceling in person classes for the semester due to widespread infections in the schools. Non-football playing students are now deprived of their opportunity to get in person learning from their teachers. But hey, at least we got a couple weeks of football in.
Does this sound like a good idea to you?
Me neither.
Why would we consider something, that when you stop and think about it, seems enormously stupid and irresponsible?
Are we ignoring what’s happening in Florida, Texas and California?
Not seeing HS football this season.
So let’s say their will be students in classrooms, but with precautions like distancing and masks. To minimize the spread this seems like a reasonable goal to start out the school year. Until....
Friday night rolls around and it’s perfectly acceptable for a bunch of students from different schools and/or communities to be smashing each other face to face for two-three hours. Spit flying, heavy breathing, etc.
Now back to school Monday where the aforementioned students begin to spread the wealth.
A month into the season schools across the state are canceling in person classes for the semester due to widespread infections in the schools. Non-football playing students are now deprived of their opportunity to get in person learning from their teachers. But hey, at least we got a couple weeks of football in.
Does this sound like a good idea to you?
Me neither.
Why would we consider something, that when you stop and think about it, seems enormously stupid and irresponsible?
Are we ignoring what’s happening in Florida, Texas and California?
Not seeing HS football this season.
BigRedBuster
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Huskers93-97
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Absolutely true. But it is possibly the most relevant comparison that we have at the moment. I agree that it would be nearly impossible to use the same strategy with college football.
At least it appears to be going well. If it wasn't, I would have even less optimism for sports of any kind this fall.
knapplc
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I've started wearing neck gaiters and I love them. They're comfortable and they look good.
Mavric
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Eh, it's been pretty apparent for a couple weeks that OPS was trending that way. As far as I know, no one else is.
It's going to get pretty interesting to see how many kids are going to try to transfer elsewhere for this fall.
krc1995
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Agree. But masks only work if there is 100% compliance. Ok maybe not 100%, but most.
I see more people wearing them everyday, so that’s good. But this being an election year has caused people to dig their heels in on their beliefs about mask mandates. At least in my mind. The biggest outcry I think will come when college football is canceled. Then we’ll see ugly.