Tangent Thread - P&R Edition

Fox is the only large right slanted news source on basic cable. The rest of the sources are very fringe. They pale in comparison to cnn, msnbc, abc, nbc, cbs etc 


CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC do not exhibit similar bias, and if you think they do the problem may not be theirs. 

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Cnn is so easy to bring up, because of all the bias examples. They do some good work, but some of it is so over the top left it’s laughable. Jim Acosta is a joke 


Now do Fox.

 
CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC do not exhibit similar bias, and if you think they do the problem may not be theirs. 



Now do Fox.


Shouldn't this be in the P&R forum?  There are many studies showing the media bias against the President but, based upon other replies that were moved outside the 2020 football forum, I am assuming this should as well.  

 
84, I think you have been nailing this stuff lately!!!

I get my information from daily exposure to it.  I get the numbers from one of the largest counties in California.  I have four friends that have had it.  Two in their late 50's, one mid 40's and one teenager at college in Grand Junction, Colorado. She initially thought she was suffering from party fever.   All have recovered and felt their bout with it was similar to the flu.

I have an 83 year old friend, she does not go outside, basically does nothing.  She was very active in January, took care of her horses, played with the dogs out side.  Now she gets no exerciser, has become very frail, and will die of the results of Covid terror.   

I know it can kill you, and easily, but most have other illnesses that make it far more deadly.  I have several of those, but still feel I have one life to live and when it is time, it is time.  Those are the people we need to protect, and should have from the beginning, rather than terrifying them to the point where they are afraid to be out side  

I know this is not easy to catch, not extremely dangerous for those under the age of 60.  I know that I am in a very dangerous age group.  I wear a mask when I go out unless it is a familiar place.  Then look to see if there are strangers in the area.  

I know that local hospital numbers, greatly differ from other areas.  I know the testing is so far off it is ridiculous.  I know that I have lost friends from the results of Covid.  No doctor to see.  Too afraid to go to the hospital due to the fear of actually getting it there.  When this is all over with, the death count from outliers is going to make the Covid deaths look small I think.  We have reacted to this totally wrong.  We need to protect the at risk, and we have actually put them at greater risk for many other diseases.  

As to the football side, I have not heard of one single player dying of Covid.  Hell most of them that get it, most likely feel sicker on a regular Saturday morning after a night of partying.  

Our kids need to be in school.  Their chances of getting it and dying of it are close to, if not less than the Flu,

Agreed, we do not know the long range affects of this disease.  But we don't really know that about any disease. This is new,  we have to deal with it.

People can overcome a lot, but they have to be given the chance.  Fighting the disease and hiding from it are two different things.  I do everything I can to keep others around me safe.  I wear a new mask every day.  Keep my hands clean.  Stay away from large gatherings of people.  Which we have in SoCal.  I ride my mountain bike 150 miles a week.  I just miss going to favorite Mexican restaurant. 

 
CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC do not exhibit similar bias, and if you think they do the problem may not be theirs. 



Now do Fox.
It has been a while since I have seen that graph.  It seems like it has changed a little?  Sad thing is it is a triangle instead of a straight line with everyone just falling of the fence a little to the left or right.  Sad state of affairs.

 
Most news stories have to be considered for content, source, reliability, agenda and motivation behind them, and then digested with a great deal of common sense and intuitive analysis.  If it has a ring of truth, you will usually find some grain of credibility and veracity.  From there, you follow up with some cross checking and verification across other sources.  Follow the money and the agenda behind the assertions made and the critical facts omitted before you give the story credence.   The test of time always weighs in to. 

Listen to the response / rebuttal and weigh the details given. Most fake or deceptive reports omit “the rest of the story” and context to spin the meaning or distort the listeners natural reaction one way or the other.  

Once a source has demonstrated their bias and agenda, hidden or not, all future news must be heavily discounted.  Rarely can you rely on that source absent a report clearly contrary to their established agenda.  

Actions speak louder than words so sources that act inconsistently from their declarations is a great indicator as well.  

Most social media are filled with agenda driven commets by uninformed writers.  If you dont know them, discount heavily until you are confident otherwise. 

Ask questions and listen to the answers.  Pay attention to a variety of well known sources.  If the source has credentials and has bo obvious prior agenda, weigh it heavier.   And just because a lie is repeated a thousand times, it will remain a lie.  

I listen to ABC, NBC, PBS, and a bit of Fox (maybe 20 hours a year).  The bulk I get from local news stations, more common internet sources, and my own research of stories via google, yahoo etc.  

The news channels spend 24 hrs covering 1 hour of news, repeated incessantly.   

I read lots of economic and political commentary from all across the political spectrum.  

 
I’ve stated many times,  that not all or even most of the main stream media is fake

whst I clearly stated was some of it was, so you have to question it all. One of the main culprits is what they decide to cover and not cover, it’s laughable how much or little attention they pay to things based on their narrative. 
 

I’m no trump fan, I think he’s an egotistical blowhard that isn’t very wise about how he conducts himself. However the vile hatred he is shown, the piling on and never giving him credit for anything is just too much. I despise the guy, but seriously considering voting  for him out of spite this time because of the bias. 
That does not mean they are fake.  It means you need to pay attention to more than one news source.  There isn't one reporter or news source in the history of the world, no matter how honest and hard working they are, that get every side to every story. 

But....there are people and organizations in this country that have motivation and ulterior motives to MAKE YOU believe all these other places are trying to brain wash you into some ultra liberal conspiracy to destroy all that's good in America.  Maybe you need to start questioning the people and organizations that started that mantra of "fake news" any time it's even slightly something they don't want to hear.

Oh...and....that's a pretty awful reason to vote for Trump.  Maybe he gets that because he's the one that sets that tone with the relationship with the media.

 
That does not mean they are fake.  It means you need to pay attention to more than one news source.  There isn't one reporter or news source in the history of the world, no matter how honest and hard working they are, that get every side to every story. 

But....there are people and organizations in this country that have motivation and ulterior motives to MAKE YOU believe all these other places are trying to brain wash you into some ultra liberal conspiracy to destroy all that's good in America.  Maybe you need to start questioning the people and organizations that started that mantra of "fake news" any time it's even slightly something they don't want to hear.

Oh...and....that's a pretty awful reason to vote for Trump.  Maybe he gets that because he's the one that sets that tone with the relationship with the media.
Trump is a pig, but it doesn’t matter who the candidate is they trash the guy on the right. McCain , bush, Romney, Reagan , it doesn’t matter who until that person is no longer a threat. Trump just won’t take it like the others did and he has thin skin. I could never vote for a socialist and that’s why we are going to get with a Harris Biden ticket and an end to the filibuster. So I may have to forgo the libertarian candidate this time. 

 
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Trump is a pig, but it doesn’t matter who the candidate is they trash the guy on the right. McCain , bush, Romney, Reagan , it doesn’t matter who until that person is no longer a threat. Trump just won’t take it like the others did and he has thin skin. I could never vote for a socialist and that’s why we are going to get with a Harris Biden ticket and an end to the filibuster. So I may have to forgo the libertarian candidate this time. 


Now do Fox.

 
That does not mean they are fake.  It means you need to pay attention to more than one news source.  There isn't one reporter or news source in the history of the world, no matter how honest and hard working they are, that get every side to every story. 

But....there are people and organizations in this country that have motivation and ulterior motives to MAKE YOU believe all these other places are trying to brain wash you into some ultra liberal conspiracy to destroy all that's good in America.  Maybe you need to start questioning the people and organizations that started that mantra of "fake news" any time it's even slightly something they don't want to hear.

Oh...and....that's a pretty awful reason to vote for Trump.  Maybe he gets that because he's the one that sets that tone with the relationship with the media.
I’ve stated here many times now I watch 3 networks on all sides and have multiple sources, do you ? 

 
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Like I said before, you’re not open to changing your mind, seems like a big waste of my time. 


I've demonstrably changed my mind on many things and many people here have witnessed it.

The fact is that you don't want to do the same trashing of Fox because your talking points come from them and their ilk and you have zero intentions of changing your mind. 

Your bias shows every time you post. So just stop pretending. Or explain why you're afraid to openly admit what you believe.

 
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