Tangent Thread - P&R Edition

Judging by Trump's approval rating (it's above 10%) and the # of f#&%ing idiots making posts that are in this topic, we are doomed.

 
Fox is not the only news source on the right. And they are heavily biased. But it's weird that CNN is the only one taking flak here.

Just so, so weird.


I saw one reference to Fox, one to MSNBC and one to CNN. Pretty weird that you defended only CNN (shrugging emoji thing)

 
I thought I'd jump on here to get a little football news and thought I had accidentally clicked on the political forum.

Carry on. :snacks:

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What were you expecting?  - big10 football has been shutdown and the correlation of who is playing and who isn't is almost 100% tied to states tendency to vote R or D.

 
Covid is real no question, but was not treated correctly at the start and some still have no clue of what is going on with it.

I listen to this mask crap every single day.  You do know that a cloth mask is basically useless.  A paper mask does stop you from spreading the germs, but cloth does not stop it either way and adds to the danger when it is removed.  You do know that Fauci stated that temperature testing was not valid.  Guidelines change continuously.

HCQ has been proven to work, but still is basically banned for what ever reason.  Check with Dr. Harvey Risch of Yale.

This isn't about masks or numbers, it is about November 3rd.  I told you months ago that the Pac 12 was not going to play football this year.  The state that houses four of the teams had stated no gatherings over 50 people would be allowed until 2021.  


I don't have a problem with politics leaking into the conversation myself, but if any posts needed to be moved, this should have been among them. 

 
I don't have a problem with politics leaking into the conversation myself, but if any posts needed to be moved, this should have been among them. 
Thank you. Moved 62 posts at once. Stuff sometimes get lost in the shuffle.

However, please use the report function in the future instead of just quoting the transgression. Otherwise, we don't get a notification and it would just be chance if we saw this or not.

 
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I am not sure why this topic is being allowed in the football forum, but if so, I agree with you regarding the anti-Trump media bias.  A study just published last week shows he has gotten 150 times more negative coverage than his opponent, and it doens't really require one to have to look to these data points to come to that conclusion.  If you simply look at the questions he receives at a press conference you will see the media is far more hostile and view it as their job to take him down.  One reporter last week asked the POTUS if he felt he should apologize to the American people for lying to the country.  This was an actual question from a White House press reporter...it was someone from Huff Post which I have no idea why they are even allowed in the press room.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/rich-noyes/2020/08/17/study-150-times-more-negative-news-trump-biden

I think a primary example of this just occurred with a very noteworthy UAB/Israeli peace agreement which would be getting Nobel recommendations if he had a D in front of his name, but it was barely covered on many mainstream networks.  And I agree that your or many others are likely to change minds in here.  The President could find a cure for cancer and would still be trashed or marginalized because he sent a tweet the same day they did not agree with.  


Well just to be fair, the President of the United States is an unprincipled grifter who demonstrably lies almost every time he opens his f#&%ing mouth, has broken the emoluments clause almost notstop since his election, and continues to warp the Constitution to his personal favor, propped up by supporters who refuse to believe they're being grifted. Donald Trump has suckled at the teat of the media his whole adult life, and frankly they've been far too kind to him. 

Say, I thought we were pulling this stuff out of this forum? 

 
You do realize in other countries, even the one where it all started, have moved on and are continuing on with life/business as usual?


Well the hardest hit localities in the early going were Italy, Spain, France, Belgium, UK, greater NYC, Iran and a few others.

They immediately enlisted lockdown procedures, survived a really deadly couple months, then infections and deaths declined and they started moving on with life/business as usual ---- but not quite usual, as simple provisions for masks and social distancing were maintained. 

By Memorial Day, the rest of the U.S. was tired of this s#!t, stopped following the simple protocols, and even started gathering again in masses, indoors and out. A curve that was flattening in the direction of a successful restart -- like the other countries -- popped right back up.

Now other countries that had largely avoided the first wave became hotspots, including India, Mexico, Brazil, Russia, and most of South America. At least the U.S. was consistent: we hadn't learned anything. We were back up to 1,000 deaths per day. 

The logical conclusion is that we went back to "business as usual" too early, but it doesn't appear to be the business part of the equation that caused it: many retailers and even restaurants have been able to make a go with masks and social distancing, but specific spreader events like indoor parties and bars and relaxed social gatherings and yes, maybe even street protests and political rallies held in arenas have spurred the  kind of high numbers that worry epidemiologists, who, by the way, haven't been wrong about most of their predictions.

South Korea was a model country, but it opened its schools and kareoke bars at the same time, and when COVID shot back up, they shut them down. Spain had made great progress, but just saw a fresh spike from its intentionally renowned summer party season. Maybe not so fast with the business as usual. 

Also --- it took Japan about two weeks to suss out the situation and cancel the Olympics. That's the Olympics. Bigger than the Big 10. Nothing to do with American politics. 

 
I’m just commenting on how the pac 12 is moving forward. Today even in sports and leisure we are force fed that we must-are required to scrutinize everything through the lense of race thanks to the race card and identity politics so prevalent today. Instead of what the great Martin Luther king said - judging people by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin. its a sham to divide us along racial lines. 
 

It’s make work type stuff far worse and less productive than the scam of airport security lol 

https://fontenelleforest.org/why-actions-speak-louder-than-words-how-fontenelle-forest-is-redesigning-our-systems-and-policies-to-create-an-evironment-of-diversity-equity-and-inclusion/

 
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I’m just commenting on how the pac 12 is moving forward. Today even in sports and leisure we are force fed that we must-are required to scrutinize everything through the lense of race thanks to the race card and identity politics so prevalent today. Instead of what the great Martin Luther king said - judging people by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin. its a sham to divide us along racial lines. 
 

It’s make work type stuff far worse and less productive than the scam of airport security lol 


All this garbage just got pulled from the other thread and here you go spreading it in this one.

 
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