The 2020 Presidential Election - Convention & General Election

Ulty said:
That really minimizes how horrible Trump is, though. People have always voted for douchey politicians, we often have no choice. And we can still tolerate and support douchey coworkers, family members, celebrities, etc by overlooking their flaws and finding the redeeming qualities. So choosing one douche over another is not shocking.

But Trump is not simply douchey. He is an outirght racist with no sense of decency who has never demonstrably cared about anyone. The fact that so many people pulled the lever for someone this terrible is what is shocking. 
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I agree, and it is easy to stay now 47 months later. But, at that time, it was not so easy to see.

 
DevoHusker said:
I agree, and it is easy to stay now 47 months later. But, at that time, it was not so easy to see.
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I think it was easy to see at the time.

Some of us saw Trump for exactly what he was immediately.

Of course it boiled down to a binary choice where many people so despised Hillary Clinton that he became palatable to them anyway.

What I learned from 2016 is that my own personal moral line (and inability to think Trump ever even once gave a s#!t about people like me) is far afield from much of America's.

 
commando said:
did someone say....COCAINE
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Biden made a gaff here. He was obviously meaning to say "the portion about marijuana" but instead said cocaine. He was talking about no prison time for low level drug offenses. 

But, Trump's eyes in response is hilarious. 

 
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"...especially a female..."

And the dolt wonders why he's not doing well with what he describes as "suburban housewives" (which is itself a load of crap).


 
knapplc said:
The pre- and post-debate favorability ratings for Biden and trump are pretty interesting. 

It's no wonder trump bailed on the second debate. Every time he gets in front of a national audience, his numbers go down.



From this poll
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you are really leaning into a debate that's less than 24 hours old.  It might take a while for people to digest all of the bad ideas Biden plans to shove down our throats like blanket amnesty, more useless windmills, ban on fracking.  That being said the people Trump needed were not watching at all.  IT his fault for not doing this on the first debate when they were. 

TGHusker said:
As goes Arizona, so goes the election - at least if Biden wins Arizona.  Trump needs Arizona to win.  Perhaps he should have been a bit friendlier with John McCain. 

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/arizona-is-ready-to-toss-donald-trump-and-the-rest-of-gop.html
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IF AZ tilts blue it's because of immigrants from California and other blue states. Somehow people cannot make the connection that they voted in the things that drove them out.

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