The P&R Plague Thread (Covid-19)

[Mierin]

My argument is that IF you're in favor of reduced military spending, which many claim, you also must understand that benefits and pay are the biggest part of that equation. 

When I say voters like yourself, I mean just that. You'll never be in favor of policies that meaningfully reduce military spending because it would inevitably entail cuts to benefits. 

My personal opinion would be to increase the number of years of service to qualify for pensions, however I do concede that I'm unsure of the economics. If research shows the government gets back in GDP terms the amount spent on pensions (or any benefit), I would be in favor of keeping them.

I am in favor of large debt and deficit spending most of the time, but that's an economic discussion for a PM or separate thread.

Can you show us these numbers? I’m seeing personnel (pay and benefits) as 23% of the budget and is the 2nd highest spending category. 

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

Can you show us these numbers? I’m seeing personnel (pay and benefits) as 23% of the budget and is the 2nd highest spending category. 

It was linked in the original post. 

These numbers also might change if spending not included in the defense budget (overseas operations, VA spending, etc.) Are included. This is probably why some sources cite 39% or 23%.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

Unless I missed it, you still never answers where the benefits are full of fraud comes from.   I’m sure there is some fraud just like every corner of the country.  But full of fraud is a strong statement for military benefits. 

This is from my personal experience, I work with predominantly ex-military members. The number of people that fit the description I mentioned is surprisingly high. 'Hearing loss' is probably the most common disability I've heard gossipped about.

Certainly there is enough that many individuals gossip about it or know somebody who has abused the disability status system. This, of course, happens with any disability system, military or otherwise.

But investigating fraud in military disability is practical political suicide. 

 

[teachercd]

The only thing awesome about her is her drinking problem. 

 

[Archy1221]

This is from my personal experience, I work with predominantly ex-military members. The number of people that fit the description I mentioned is surprisingly high. 'Hearing loss' is probably the most common disability I've heard gossipped about.

Certainly there is enough that many individuals gossip about it or know somebody who has abused the disability status system. This, of course, happens with any disability system, military or otherwise.

But investigating fraud in military disability is practical political suicide. 

Thank you 

 

[DevoHusker]

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[teachercd]

Oh man...2,000???

Looks like I will be redoing my basement!  

I know some of you nerds LOVE Nancy, but if she thinks 600 dollars is a big a$$ deal for people...imagine what she will say about 2,000 dollars!

 

[commando]

Oh man...2,000???

Looks like I will be redoing my basement!  

I know some of you nerds LOVE Nancy, but if she thinks 600 dollars is a big a$$ deal for people...imagine what she will say about 2,000 dollars!

when the negotiations started the dems were asking for a lot more than 600 and the republicans wanted nothing.  nancy has already posted that the dems would change that to $2000 with no hesitation.   will the republicans go along now that trump has finally said something?

 

[teachercd]

when the negotiations started the dems were asking for a lot more than 600 and the republicans wanted nothing.  nancy has already posted that the dems would change that to $2000 with no hesitation.   will the republicans go along now that trump has finally said something?

She is a loser and has been for years.  They are all losers if they are attaching anything to this bill other than this

Bill 101:  Every American gets X amount of dollars, now.

That is it, that is the bill, nothing else.

Anything else attached to it makes anyone that agrees with that a loser and an a$$h@!e.  The only good news is that lush is drinking herself to death, the bad news is god rewards drunks. 

The good news is, since she is for it, she will do all she can to push it through.  

 

[commando]

She is a loser and has been for years.  They are all losers if they are attaching anything to this bill other than this

Bill 101:  Every American gets X amount of dollars, now.

That is it, that is the bill, nothing else.

Anything else attached to it makes anyone that agrees with that a loser and an a$$h@!e.  The only good news is that lush is drinking herself to death, the bad news is god rewards drunks. 

The good news is, since she is for it, she will do all she can to push it through.  

 

[DevoHusker]

when the negotiations started the dems were asking for a lot more than 600 and the republicans wanted nothing.  nancy has already posted that the dems would change that to $2000 with no hesitation.   will the republicans go along now that trump has finally said something?

I don't believe that is altogether the true picture.  Check out this on the Repub proposal from Oct 12th

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/10/pelosi-dismisses-trump-coronavirus-stimulus-offer.html

 

[teachercd]

Good for that lush!  Hopefully she convinces all the a$$h@!es to vote for it.  

Since she and Trump both agree on it, this should mean 2,000 for all of us here in the next month.

 

[Omaha-Husker]

The cynic in me thinks he just did this to make noise over those Blackwater pardons.

 

[teachercd]

The cynic in me thinks he just did this to make noise over those Blackwater pardons.

The bank account in me doesn't give a f#&%  

give me more free money!  Anyone that doesn't want theirs, feel free to send me a check.  

Take pie when pie is being passed. 

 

[ScarletRevival]

Romney slams Trump lack of leadership on Covid.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1912441/mitt-romney-donald-trump-covid-tragedy/

Trump proves Romney's point:

While the president continues his silence on the pandemic.  Offering NO leadership as the pandemic has esculated.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/528706-trump-largely-silent-as-health-officials-sound-covid-19-alarm
 

 Yet without Trump there is no operation Warp Speed, and there is no vaccine for Covid.

I realize that this is a foreign concept in the swamp,  but we need to be very thankful that we've had a competent President for the last 4 years.  It's been since 1989 since we last had a competent President.

This man and his policies on the vaccine has saved millions upon millions of lives across the world.

We should all be thankful for his leadership.