Trump Impeachment # 2
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Scarlet
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But this is what Trump wants remember? @Notre Dame Joe said as much above. Trust the plan.
Another called bluff. Another 7-2 off
Guy Chamberlin
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Honest question: what would you consider an impeachable offense?
Less honest question: should a pedophile avoid legal consequences if he resigns as a scout troop master?
Does Raskin still support his own choice of objecting to electors that stoked political dissent to Republican wins?
Scarlet
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That's about the deepest dig of whataboutism you've pulled up yet. Putin would be proud. Well done.
ahhh, more Russia Russia Russia from my man Scarlet. It never fails to provide a chuckle.
Seems relevant, no? I mean his whole theory, as an impeachment manager, is that Trump whipped everyone into a frenzy because he disputed the election results and wanted Congress to object to certifying the EC.
Didn’t Raskin dispute the Presidential election results, don’t he actually object to certifying the EC? Seems like his last behavior gives the ok for Trump to ask other members of Congress to do the same. Unless he says he was wrong in his prior life of just a Congressman and not a member of a congress who is an Impeachment Manager.
Notre Dame Joe
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Maybe Trump would rack up a lot of fines from ignoring Pelosi's mask mandate.
Likewise, every one of my detractors here has ignored the US Constitution. That is the law of the land, not the wikipedia, not what some guy on social media or even what 55 Senators say the law should be.
No Court has adjudicated Belknap's or Trump's or any other former-federal officer's impeachment, so people can only opine on how they would rule.
It is not even close to a 50:50 decision. We have the plain language of the Constitution and the fact that Chief Justice Roberts made an affirmative action to avoid the question.
knapplc
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You mean... our elected lawmakers?
Because no court has jurisdiction. Impeachment is an act by the House.
And in the grand schemr of things means next to nothing without a conviction in the Senate.
knapplc
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History won't forget any of this. trump's fate is sealed, as is that of the Republicans who enabled him.
Notre Dame Joe
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Mr. History remembers that Andrew Johnson was Impeached by vindictive radical Republicans who were dead wrong on the law. And that Bill Clinton was impeached by vindictive moderate Republicans stretching petty laws as a pretext to get Clinton. It may be 50 years before Mr H can think calmly enough to realize that the Trump Impeachment(s) was just one of many illegal attempts by the elected lawmakers of the political establishment to depose the upstart winner of the 2016 election.
Notre Dame Joe
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Not happening. Trump won't testify at impeachment trial, rejecting calls from Democrats - CBS News
As we transition to why this isn't even a real crime.
Raskin said that if Mr. Trump declines to testify, the House impeachment managers "reserve any and all rights, including the right to establish at trial that your refusal to testify supports a strong adverse inference regarding your actions (and your inaction) on January 6, 2021."
If Trump had committed a real crime then of course the jury is absolutely not permitted to infer guilt from the right to remain silent.
ZRod
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Clinton rightly should have been impeached for lying under oath, and the Senate should have censured him, not gone after removal from office.
With hindsight of #metoo he probably should have been impeached for sexual harassment/misconduct as well, and voted on for removal.
